CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #61

[Simply Southern]

He would, only if it was human. The jury is still out on if there was DNA recovered, and I wouldn’t be surprised if there wasn’t.

Although I’m really, really, hoping that there was DNA extracted.

DNA or NO DNA.. Dan got the WOW factor !!!

 

[Seattle1]

We have so much important and totally relevant evidence that some of this will seem like noise to the jurors.

I get to quote Bob Seger twice in one week:
"...what to leave in, what to leave out."

@MemPat -- it was your song references last night that prompted the creation of a "Dedication Line" thread.

And I expect you to contribute often!

Dedication Line: Strength & Vulnerability & Justice

 

[PommyMommy]

NOV 8, 2019
Cadaver dogs take center stage at Patrick Frazee's murder trial - 1310 KFKA
[...]

Frank Hurst testified Friday about his 140-pound bloodhound named Radar, which he took in February to Nash Ranch, the Colorado property where Frazee leased cattle and Frazee’s ex-girlfriend claims he hid Berreth’s body in a barn.

The jury appeared enthralled by a video played in court that showed hay stacked 12 to 15 feet high inside the barn.

Radar walked to the base of haystacks and “sat,” possibly alerting investigators to the nearby scent of a decomposed human. Investigators looked up and noticed that the top of the haystack was discolored. It was too high for the dog to climb, so Radar was placed on a forklift.

Radar appeared excited, and after he settled down, he started sniffing again. Then he laid down on the spot he believed to have smelled a decomposed human body. Radar then looked up at his handler.

Hurst, who described his extremely close relationship with Radar, testified that Radar has never had a false hit. He said Radar can find remains when people have tried to clean up, but bleach can mask the scent.

[...]

 

[skyedaze]

Under the top layer of dirt, there was a layer of melted black plastic. An FBI agent testified that he smelled ash and smoke while removing the dirt, and he smelled burned plastic when he began removing the plastic.
@csgazette #PatrickFrazee #KelseyBerreth

Jakob Rodgers on Twitter

woooooooow

 

[Hatfield]

I believe we were told she stopped and slept for 20 minutes unless I dreamed that!

You are correct that we did hear that she took a power nap on the original drive to Colorado. I think it was a short nap like you mention.

 

[Simply Southern]

@MemPat -- it was your song references last night that prompted the creation of a "Dedication Line" thread.

And I expect you to contribute often!

Dedication Line: Strength & Vulnerability & Justice

Dang, I didn't know we were working on a thread Play List.

@MemPat and @Seattle1 ....

 

[Herat]

Didn’t we hear that PF had some human teeth in a small box when LE searched his place ?

Like maybe old teeth of his?

 

[Safeguard]

The tweet about the tooth and black plastic being found gave me goosebumps. Imagine how hearing about it made the jury feel.

And the timing was impeccable!
This whole thing was so very well played.
I couldn't be more impressed!

 

[yawningreyhound]

I love the irony that PF had KK find the tooth to get rid of it...and he does himself in with his own burn pile! HA!

Wouldn't it be sweet irony that it was that exact tooth they found?

 

[Seattle1]

Hoping KK's polygraph video is released like CW's was.

I honestly don't believe we will ever see that -- KK is not the defendant here. Per DA May, KK's plea deal was also sealed.

MOO

 

[katydid23]

Very interesting.

One thing to add onto from earlier today... the officers who testified earlier, who were in charge of bloodhounds, said that bleach and cleaning supplies could affect the dogs' ability to detect the scents of decomposing human remains.
@csgazette #PatrickFrazee #KelseyBerreth

Jakob Rodgers on Twitter

BINGO-----this is what I was waiting for.

This answers one of the jurors questions, about why cadaver dogs didn't hit in the condo.

 

[Gardenista]

I doubt that the DA would bring up finding the tooth unless more is coming in whose tooth it was!

It depends on what the burning did to the tooth. Seems like the softer structures may have burned away leaving the enamel which has little to no DNA. However, even if there was no DNA, just having a human tooth in the burn pile is significant.

 

[PommyMommy]

NOV 8, 2019
Frazee murder trial: Prosecutors try to prove accomplice's story - KRDO
[...]

Friday, prosecutors began asking other people to corroborate details of her account.

[...]

The first witness to testify Friday was the owner of Nash Ranch, where Berreth's body was allegedly burned inside a tote. ...

Next, an officer specially certified with K-9 investigative dogs testified to the effectiveness of cadaver dogs. ... Video showed the dog visibly respond to possible human decomposition near hay bales in the barn.

Another K-9 expert, Brian Eberle, was called to testify, and he said he brought an investigative dog to the condo where Berreth was allegedly beaten to death with a baseball bat. Eberle testified that the dog detected human decomposition scent around a Toyota Corolla outside. ...

[...]

Lee's father, Sydney Dustin Kenney, gave basic details about his relationship with his daughter, saying "she likes to please" and "she's always good at what she tried to do." He said he had been invited to Thanksgiving with Lee and her husband, Chad.

[...]

In the afternoon, FBI agents testified...

When Lee pointed out the burn spot, investigators found an inch of topsoil and gravel that had been poured recently. The investigators said it was hard to notice unless you were looking right at it.

When they removed the top layer, they found a crust of plastic coating underneath, according to testimony. Next to the crust was a soiled spot that was wet with oil and other debris.

According to testimony, it was on the last shovel of dirt that an agent found what she believed to be a tooth. It turned out to be a partial tooth.

The agents also testified that they found wooden baseball bats and a wooden club on Frazee's property.

[...]

“Did he provide any details to you?”

“He said there's a tote in the back of the truck, that he keeps horse supplies in, that he brought that in, and put her in there, and put the bat in there, and took it out to his truck.”

[...]

 

[Mind your biscuits]

Finally caught up. A tooth, poor KB. He tried to obliterate her but thankfully he was unsuccessful. That is one cold sob. Moo

 

[Gardenista]

NOV 8, 2019
Cadaver dogs take center stage at Patrick Frazee's murder trial - 1310 KFKA
[...]

Frank Hurst testified Friday about his 140-pound bloodhound named Radar, which he took in February to Nash Ranch, the Colorado property where Frazee leased cattle and Frazee’s ex-girlfriend claims he hid Berreth’s body in a barn.

The jury appeared enthralled by a video played in court that showed hay stacked 12 to 15 feet high inside the barn.

Radar walked to the base of haystacks and “sat,” possibly alerting investigators to the nearby scent of a decomposed human. Investigators looked up and noticed that the top of the haystack was discolored. It was too high for the dog to climb, so Radar was placed on a forklift.

Radar appeared excited, and after he settled down, he started sniffing again. Then he laid down on the spot he believed to have smelled a decomposed human body. Radar then looked up at his handler.

Hurst, who described his extremely close relationship with Radar, testified that Radar has never had a false hit. He said Radar can find remains when people have tried to clean up, but bleach can mask the scent.

[...]

Wow. Good boy Radar. Hope you get lots of treatos.

 

[skyedaze]

This is one reason why she was so important.

Back to the burn area: When special agents first searched #ParickFrazee's ranch on Dec. 14 & 15, 2018, they didn't find any burn areas, old or new, FBI agents testified.
@csgazette #KelseyBerreth

But when #PatrickFrazee's mistress, Krystal Lee, came forward a few days later, she led them to the burn area covered in dirt. It was where Lee prevoiusly testified it was -- on a dirt driveway, uphill and in sight of Frazee's house.
@csgazette #KelseyBerreth

Jakob Rodgers on Twitter

Winner Winner Sonic Dinner!

 

[Seattle1]

That just counts in court. No guarantees out here in the real world.

Can't remember who said it but somebody famous did, "When people show you who they are, believe them." I always do.

ETA: Maya Angelou. I rest my case. (No pun intended.)

Brilliant. My dad used that one too except he added "believe them the first time!"

 

[MemPat]

Elise Schmelzer on Twitter
UPDATE: FBI investigators found a tooth in the dirt near burn area on #PatrickFrazee ranch. Also found that there was a crust of melted plastic on the burn area, as well as an area of dirt moist with a substance.
3:04 PM - 8 Nov 2019

Elise Schmelzer on Twitter
Key witness, Krystal Lee Kenney, led investigators to burn, which had been covered with dirt. She said that’s where #PatrickFrazee burned #KelseyBerreth’s body in a black plastic storage box.
3:05 PM - 8 Nov 2019

Elise Schmelzer on Twitter
We already knew there was a tooth found in this case. I don’t think we knew it was found at the spot of alleged burning. Nobody has yet said in trial that it’s #KelseyBerreth’s tooth.
3:06 PM - 8 Nov 2019

Elise Schmelzer on Twitter
FBI analyst said wet spot in dirt had an oily consistency, it stuck to investigators’ gloves and dirt from there was hard to sift.
3:08 PM - 8 Nov 2019

Elise Schmelzer on Twitter
We’ve been walked through multiple searches of #PatrickFrazee ranch. On one of first searches involved multiple FBI evidence teams, ~100 search and rescue personnel and seven cadaver dogs. Didn’t find much, but this is before Kenney told investigators what she knew.
3:10 PM - 8 Nov 2019

Could we just have a moment of silence for that tooth?

Even if there was no DNA left in it, the fact that a tooth was there screams that a body was burned.

What if the crust of melted plastic protected a wet spot containing Kelsey's DNA?

Remember in old Westerns when a pack of wild men showed up at the jail door for the guilty man? That.

 

[MassGuy]

Didn’t we hear that PF had some human teeth in a small box when LE searched his place ?

Like maybe old teeth of his?

When we heard the initial talk about a tooth being tested, we thought that maybe it was one of those teeth.

The fact that this tooth was found in a place where it had no business being, is damning. The implication is clear, DNA or not.

It’s Kelsey’s.

 

[Artis]

JMO
I agree and I've learned to be thankful we cannot understand them.

Obviously they both had a severe lack of empathy towards KB and her family. We for sure know PF does not have much empathy for others just from hearing about his non-reaction to horrible testimony during the trial and I suspect KK shares that awful trait with him.

The reason this is so important is because so many of us wonder how these monsters can do such horrible things. When there is a lack of empathy towards others, it is one of the things that allows these monsters to do what they do.

Us normal folks could never do what they do because we care too much about others. For them, they just dont care because they have no real feelings for them. Only themselves.

"There are many disorders related to a lack of empathy."

Lack of Empathy: Disorders, Signs & Causes - Video & Lesson Transcript | Study.com

I don't bother wondering, anymore. Once someone shows what they are, I take it at face value. To wonder why or how they do what they do is like wondering why a vampire drinks blood. It is what it is.