CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018

[Jethro4WS]

No. LE doesn’t believe that an airplane is involved here.

They have ruled out that she didn't use any planes that she had access to and that she didn't rent one. That doesn't mean that someone else doesn't own a plane that could have been used <modsnip - sleuthing non-POI>

 

[Jennifer17]

So she moved to Colorado in 2016 with her fiance, but they have never lived together?

I find that really strange. Ok, her religious beliefs do not allow her to live with him until married, but having a child together makes that look a bit odd.

 

[MassGuy]

They have ruled out that she didn't use any planes that she had access to and that she didn't rent one. That doesn't mean that someone else doesn't own a plane that could have been used <modsnip - sleuthing non POI>.

Yes. This could involve a plane if she left on her own free will.

I don’t believe she left willingly though. Nor do I believe that she is still alive.

 

[riolove77]

That right there, is an abomination.

You’re wrong! It’s delicious!

 

[Jennifer17]

I totally agree. I have never had a job that I could just be gone for a week without a viable reason and expect that my job would still be there when I returned.

Therefore, if she truly asked for time off, I think it is logical to expect she would not have her job when she returned. Why ask for the time off then?

Seems to me it is someone trying to cover their tracks and buy them self some time before people become suspicious.

It just is not logical.

Ha! And I am Australian and we have a relaxed attitude about work, compared the US, but that would not be acceptable even here.

 

[Jethro4WS]

Ok. I’m gonna plunge in here and ask....is the fiancé the baby’s father? Do we KNOW that?

No one has claimed differently to my knowledge.

 

[Warwick7]

This is the best rundown of the case that I have seen thus far. It was published 4 hours ago.

“The chief said he didn’t know why Patrick Frazee—Kelsey’s fiance and the father of her child—didn’t file a missing persons report himself. “That’s a question you’ll have to ask Patrick,” DeYoung told reporters.”


“Nov. 25 is also the day Kelsey’s employer, a flight training school in Pueblo, received a text from her phone saying she wouldn’t be at work the following week, DeYoung said. Nov. 25 is also the day Kelsey’s phone gave a location near Gooding, Idaho, around 5:13 p.m.”

Missing Colorado Mom Left Behind Baby Daughter and Haunting Questions: ‘Someone Knows Where She’s At’

Yes, and that following week has come and gone.

Also I want to know the time stamp when Mom called 911 and the time stamp on these texts alledgedly from her to her Mom and to "the fiance."

And I want to know what the text says to the fiance.

And I want to know WHY he wasn't at the press conf.

 

[MassGuy]

Yes, and that following week has come and gone.

Also I want to know the time stamp when Mom called 911 and the time stamp on these texts alledgedly from her to her Mom and to "the fiance."

And I want to know what the text says to the fiance.

And I want to know WHY he wasn't at the press conf.

Haaa. We could probably come up with 100 questions to add to your list.

We’re pretty much in the dark here.

 

[scdiv]

Now I AM confused.

Most likely sloppy reporting by the NY Post. It's possible they confused her makeup "bag" left behind - with her purse. Every other media report and her brother says her purse was not in the house.

 

[Jethro4WS]

This article states that Kelsey dropped the baby off at the father’s home.

The Police Department says otherwise.

Woodland Park Police Department

 

[soap mama]

The reporting on this case has been terrible. I'm now paying attention to LE only. The public relations person at the press conference said information would be relaying on the LE's FB page. That should be our go-to source, along with interviews we can see/hear for ourselves.

I went back and listened to the press conference because after listening to it once, I still had info wrong. I went back and took notes for myself (joining the WS note-taking nerd crew....here, at your service....with cinnamon buns).

jmo

Lmao, Nerds With Buns

 

[Jupiter05]

I know this is a mountain area with many secluded neighborhoods. I wonder if she had a nearby neighbor who saw her leaving or close friends that she would have been in communication with regarding her plans or state of mind. Lots of information that we don't have. Very upsetting.

 

[soap mama]

Add "obfuscating" to the list of things I've learned from Websleuths.

Those cold cinnamon rolls are obfuscating.

 

[alucardsdream]

It's just a really odd case, and it just gets weirder the more I read about it. Best case scenario, she just wanted out of the situation so she bolted and left everything behind. But since it seems that would be completely out of character, especially since she has a one-year-old daughter, I don't think we're going to get a happy ending here.

 

[cuffem]

The Police Department says otherwise.

Woodland Park Police Department

So I assume her car was at her home?

 

[soap mama]

Search intensifies for missing Colorado mother Kelsey Berreth

Her brother flew there and went through the whole house. No luggage is missing only a purse. And that is easy enuff to do.

How the heck would an out of state brother know what’s “missing”? My husband can’t even keep track of my purses, he couldn’t tell you right now which one I’m using Bc I switch them out all the time

 

[Jennifer17]

The phone pinging in Ohio is really strange.

 

[Jethro4WS]

So she moved to Colorado in 2016 with her fiance, but they have never lived together?

I don't think the fiance moved there. <modsnip - sleuthing family> She moved there.

 

[Jupiter05]

Most likely sloppy reporting by the NY Post. It's possible they confused her makeup "bag" left behind - with her purse. Every other media report and her brother says her purse was not in the house.

Best to source more local newspapers like the Colorado Springs Gazette. NY Post is a joke!

 

[soap mama]

Most likely sloppy reporting by the NY Post. It's possible they confused her makeup "bag" left behind - with her purse. Every other media report and her brother says her purse was not in the house.

Like they mixed up “dog” for “ God” lol