CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018

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  • #721
This is the best rundown of the case that I have seen thus far. It was published 4 hours ago.

“The chief said he didn’t know why Patrick Frazee—Kelsey’s fiance and the father of her child—didn’t file a missing persons report himself. “That’s a question you’ll have to ask Patrick,” DeYoung told reporters.”


“Nov. 25 is also the day Kelsey’s employer, a flight training school in Pueblo, received a text from her phone saying she wouldn’t be at work the following week, DeYoung said. Nov. 25 is also the day Kelsey’s phone gave a location near Gooding, Idaho, around 5:13 p.m.”

Missing Colorado Mom Left Behind Baby Daughter and Haunting Questions: ‘Someone Knows Where She’s At’
And this articles quotes the mom as saying, "Kelsey loves her God, she loves her family and friends, and she loves her job,” Cheryl Berreth added."

Not "dog" like the very on the ball reporting of the NY Post. ;)
 
  • #722
How the heck would an out of state brother know what’s “missing”? My husband can’t even keep track of my purses, he could t tell you right now which one I’m using Bc I switch them out all the time

I was married for about five years before my husband (who I dated for 3 years before marrying) realized I was left-handed...he is likely unaware that I even own a purse.

I wonder how close her and her brother were...maybe he visited often? She may be the kind of person who doesn't have a lot of stuff cluttering up the house.
 
  • #723
Omg I’m getting so tired of hearing about those damned cinnamon rolls lol
There is a Facebook group that is designed by her family and friends to get her message out. It is not a speculation group although some don't get it and speculate.. According to her brother, everything was at the home except for her purse and phone. There is a lot of disinformation from the media.
 
  • #724
I was married for about five years before my husband (who I dated for 3 years before marrying) realized I was left-handed...he is likely unaware that I even own a purse.

I wonder how close her and her brother were...maybe he visited often? She may be the kind of person who doesn't have a lot of stuff cluttering up the house.
I am LOLing about the left hand, that is so funny!!
 
  • #725
And this articles quotes the mom as saying, "Kelsey loves her God, she loves her family and friends, and she loves her job,” Cheryl Berreth added."

Not "dog" like the very on the ball reporting of the NY Post. ;)
I can understand that. It is unusual IMO, to call God using a possessive pronoun.
 
  • #726
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Yes. This could involve a plane if she left on her own free will.

I don’t believe she left willingly though. Nor do I believe that she is still alive.
The only way she is alive is if she took off and is hiding out.

What troubles me is that there isn't anything in the courts, no indications of trouble, no friends jumping up and down talking about abuse or other troubles, nothing to indicate something afoot.

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  • #729
I was married for about five years before my husband (who I dated for 3 years before marrying) realized I was left-handed...he is likely unaware that I even own a purse.

I wonder how close her and her brother were...maybe he visited often? She may be the kind of person who doesn't have a lot of stuff cluttering up the house.
That's funny about your husband not noticing you're left-handed! :)

It's possible one of the things the brother was asked by LE was whether or not a purse (with wallet and other things normally inside a purse) was found. And he didn't find one.

The chief also said they executed a search warrant on her residence and vehicles. I'm sure they would've noticed a purse during those searches.

jmo
 
  • #730
I can understand that. It is unusual IMO, to call God using a possessive pronoun.
It’s “personal” and sweet. But I agree, not a usual reference.
 
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The phone pinging in Ohio is really strange.
Idaho not Ohio. Her Mom lives in Northern Idaho so not so strange if someone was trying to imply she left to visit family and never arrived and also left without her car and a change of clothing.
 
  • #734
I’d be interested to know where her phone pinged before that last location. That would be very telling unless it was shut off.
A phone can ping when turned off.
 
  • #735
Nothing was said about Kelsey's mother contacting the "fiance". The Police said that her work received a text and her "fiance" received a text on November 25th.
Jumping off your post, hope you don't mind. Is there anyway to track a phone's location for the time of the text? Anyone?
 
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Lol! Sorry, my error.
I live and operate a business in Idaho. Once had a customer firmly tell me that my business was located in Indiana. After arguing for a few minutes I finally said hey I've got to go...I've got a long commute home to Idaho.
 
  • #738
The only way she is alive is if she took off and is hiding out.

What troubles me is that there isn't anything in the courts, no indications of trouble, no friends jumping up and down talking about abuse or other troubles, nothing to indicate something afoot.

Yet, we had some people connected to this case pop up on the thread way in the beginning mentioning that Kelsey testified in some other couple's custody case and something about a private investigator trying to get a hold of her.

I don't know what to make of this case yet.
Agreed. She is only alive if she left on her own.

I’m also bothered by the lack of any information indicating trouble in her life.

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  • #739
How the heck would an out of state brother know what’s “missing”? My husband can’t even keep track of my purses, he couldn’t tell you right now which one I’m using Bc I switch them out all the time
Altho a good point...if you walked into my home you would know if my purse was there or not. Same with my Mom and my sisters.
Lol! I do carry the kitchen sink in mine...
 
  • #740
The only way she is alive is if she took off and is hiding out.

What troubles me is that there isn't anything in the courts, no indications of trouble, no friends jumping up and down talking about abuse or other troubles, nothing to indicate something afoot.

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My hunch (only a hunch, not fact) is that there might be a culture in this case that doesn't call LE easily/quickly, doesn't jump forward to do interviews, etc. I think the slowness to report her missing and what seems like reluctance to provide information might reflect that.

Speculation only. jmo
 
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