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  • #301
That story cites the NOCO shootings and the I-94 shootings in Calhoun County, Michigan.

There was another window shattering incident along I-94 in MI yesterday (Tues. 9/1). This was apparently the sixth. One of the earlier ones had been confirmed as involving a bullet. The I-94 coverage also references the NOCO series.

"[Calhoon County's] Sheriff Saxton says they've also talked with investigators in Colorado following a series of highway shootings there. One person was killed, another injured, and several vehicles have been hit."

Renewed fears of possible highway shooter after string of incidents in West Michigan

NEWSCHANNEL 3
Wed, Sep 02 2015

http://www.wwmt.com/news/features/t...le-shooting-on-I-94-199109.shtml#.Veg2H_lVikp

Police investigate rumors of another vehicle shooting on I-94 <Calhoun County, Michigan>
Updated: Thu, Sep 03 2015, 07:14 AM
 
  • #302
That story cites the NOCO shootings and the I-94 shootings in Calhoon County, Michigan.

There was another window shattering incident along I-94 in MI yesterday (Tues. 9/1). This was apparently the sixth. One of the earlier ones had been confirmed as involving a bullet. The I-94 coverage also references the NOCO series.

"[Calhoon County's] Sheriff Saxton says they've also talked with investigators in Colorado following a series of highway shootings there. One person was killed, another injured, and several vehicles have been hit."

Renewed fears of possible highway shooter after string of incidents in West Michigan

NEWSCHANNEL 3
Wed, Sep 02 2015

Yes, I watched the Phoenix report on the news last night and during the report they referenced the NOCO and other states also and mentioned they were in contact with other states about it. So obviously LE is wondering if there is some sort of motive tie-in with other states.

The one in Phoenix was definintely large caliber bullets because the bullet holes were huge and 1 went through metal and it was obviously a large caliber bullet hole.

IMO, and for my own sanity :) , I am breaking the shootings down into 3 categories (really 2 though).

#1-The real obvious "normal" bullet shootings like the random shooting murders in Colorado of the people and the shooting in Phoenix yesterday were obviously all from what we would consider "normal" type bullets.

#2-The "stranger shatter shootings" in NOCO. These are the NOCO shootings of the car windows where they shatter and you can definitely tell a projectile hit the window but it seems to not be a normal type bullet. It could be either a Frangible bullet OR like other possibles we mentioned before like a high powered pellet gun OR a rigged up Air-Soft gun OR other possibles. This is a category all in its own.

Because the window shatterings do not show a normal larger caliber hole in the window as expected. But some of them have definite projectile impact areas. They are relatively small. The stress fractures in the glass is the best evidence to me on some of the cars where you can see the exact impact point and stress fractures go out in all directions away from the impact point. Some examples even had a nice little hole and then the stress fractures went away from the hole.

#3-The 3rd category is the window shatterings in NOCO where it is not obvious a projectile broke the window but I am betting that most of these fall into Category #2 since Category #2 is very hard to spot the impact area. So it makes sense that some of these shatterings are really in Category #2 and its just that we cannot tell the impact zone because the whole window broke out. Maybe a few of these may be real road debri but I think the majority of these are really Category #2. For basis of this, I go back to that comment someone made in the article the other day.
Ask yourself when the last time you had a window just shatter while driving? For me, NEVER in 30 years and I don't know anybody that has. And if you do know somebody that had a window break while driving, I can almost guarantee the person realized what happened. Like they would see a hual truck in front of them and realized something fell out of the truck in front. Or they had run over something and felt it in their tire and realized it flung up and hit the side window. So it is not a mystery to them what happened. They knew what happened.
And this is what distinguishes the NOCO "Shatterings" from anything normal. The people are mostly saying there was no other vehicle around them.

So with all that said, I really think most of #3 is really into #2 and I am sticking with 2 main categories here.
So now that leads to the next questions.

1-Are the Phoenix Category #1 related to the NOCO Category #1 and/or related to any other state? Is this a directive from a group like ISIS that is causing this OR is it just different sick people doing it for different reasons in different states?

2-Is Category #2 related to Category #1 and its just that the people's weapons they chose to use in Category #2 is just different for those people? Meaning Is all of this related?
 
  • #303
Catching up on the mapping. Here are what I take to be the NOCO MO incidients, with the addition of the shooting of Gary Criswell's semi on Monday 8/31/15, as a yellow circle in the lower right.

One thing that struck me was that Marshall Zelinger, the ABC 7 Reporter who broke the story, mentions in the video clip that the shot came from a roadside field. He has a lot of experience with these shattering and shooting stories, so I'm guessing that he knows whereof he speaks. That is one of the only times we have been able to establish whether the shots came from another vehicle or from roadside.

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Interesting about the field area. The one in Phonex looked like it had a nice little area beside the highway with trees for cover. I immediately thought the shooter in Phonex may have been in that area under the trees.

HEY...Do we all remember that 1 guy in Colorado that was seen with a rifle in the road. Then as soon as he was spotted, he car-jacked a car and I think LE surrounded him and he got killed I think. Remember ALL the LE vehicles that were around the incident. It was like the entire CO LE came out. I wonder if that guy was a part of this "ring of shooters". He had a rifle from what I recall. Remember how the news tried to hide the rifle and then started to call it just a handgun.

I do think LE may know they have an active ring of shooters and they are just trying to keep people from panicking because the public then gets mad at them for not stopping it.
I am convinced there is some coverup going on and I am more and more convinced that this is an organized string of terror.

At this point, I have to conclude that most of these maybe ISIS inspired shootings to terrorize the US residents. Until some other explanation and people are arrested with some other motive, I am now leaning that way. The way the FBI even downplays it is hinting towards real terrorism here. I have no idea why the government likes to hush up terrorism but they are known to do that and that is exactly what they do. Just look at all the other terror incidents and how they don't even like to identify the shooters as real terrorists. Even the guy that shot up the army recruiting place. It was like pulling teeth to get LE to admit it was real terrorism and ISIS inspired terrorist.
 
  • #304
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...e-another-rash-of-window-shatterings-on-c-470

Seems like every day this week there is a non-story about shattered windows that are not connected to the NOCO shootings...this is the latest...on C-470 near Morrison, which I believe we have talked about before...

"four such incidents in the last month and a half"... "In these instances, we always check for bullets or anything else"...
 
  • #305
Damn it, Hatfield, if I'm going to read a twelve paragraph post, I expect an answer at the end of it, not a question!

But you do lay it out nicely. The Jacoby and Cannole killings, on the one hand, and the I-25 window shatterings on the other hand seem so different in technique and effect that I would have called them two different cases if the Romero shooting didn't link them.

I thought that you offered the best conclusion to the "linked or not linked" debate the other day when you pointed out that neither theory should leave us feeling much safer: you either have one serial shooter responsible for a long series of crimes, or two serial shooters responsible for two shorter series.
 
  • #306
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...e-another-rash-of-window-shatterings-on-c-470

Seems like every day this week there is a non-story about shattered windows that are not connected to the NOCO shootings...this is the latest...on C-470 near Morrison, which I believe we have talked about before...

"four such incidents in the last month and a half"... "In these instances, we always check for bullets or anything else"...

"Guess, they don't have a clue, nor do they want one".. 'Still checking for projectiles, I see'.. "Must be road debris"..
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"In these instances, we always check for bullets or anything else," he said.

Joiner says Morrison Police and the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office combed nearby fields and found no evidence that anyone fired a gun.

"If it was a gun, the bullet would have to go somewhere," he said. "It would have to go through the van and exit the other side, or would get lodged in the vehicle."

The lieutenant said there was no trace of a bullet inside the vehicle.

"We think it may have been roadside debris," he said. "That's our only conclusion, just because of the angle and because we found no bullet."
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Frangible bullets will disintegrate upon contact with a surface harder than the bullet itself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frangibility
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Lab tests from one of the investigations confirmed the damage found on one car was consistent with a bullet.
Law enforcement said that other cases also likely resulted from the use of a weapon.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/29/us/michigan-investigation-possible-highway-shooter/
 
  • #307
It looks to me like the NOCO window shooter is in a hypermanic phase. Or that two are active.

I've added a round yellow marker to the case map to reflect the report of an 8/31/15 window shattering along C-370 near Morrison that SearchingGirl posted today, based on a Lance Hernandez ABC 7 piece of 9/2/15. It is apparently the forth such incident in the area in the last month and a half. None of the earlier ones had been reported. (Foxfire commented on it earlier today, trying to point out that you don't have to have a bullet sitting in a back seat or an exit hole to have a gun involved.)

That 9:00 AM incident was the second window shattering we have heard about from Monday 8/31/15. The other was the shot to the semi's windshield that happened "between 7:20 and 7:40 AM" near mile marker 144 on Highway 34 in Morgan County (the other yellow marker on the screenshot). That's about 80 miles northeast, by car, if you pass thru Denver (during the rush hour), or 104 miles if you go around Denver. Here's the citation for the semi shooting: Phil Tenser, Marshall Zelinger, 7 News Denver (ABC) The Denver Channel, 8/31/15.

Sleuthers from CO, would one shooter should have had time to do both?

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  • #308
It looks to me like the NOCO window shooter is in a hypermanic phase. Or that two are active.

I've added a round yellow marker to the case map to reflect the report of an 8/31/15 window shattering along C-370 near Morrison that SearchingGirl posted today, based on a Lance Hernandez ABC 7 piece of 9/2/15. It is apparently the forth such incident in the area in the last month and a half. None of the earlier ones had been reported. (Foxfire commented on it earlier today, trying to point out that you don't have to have a bullet sitting in a back seat or an exit hole to have a gun involved.)

That 9:00 AM incident was the second window shattering we have heard about from Monday 8/31/15. The other was the shot to the semi's windshield that happened "between 7:20 and 7:40 AM" near mile marker 144 on Highway 34 in Morgan County (the other yellow marker on the screenshot). That's about 80 miles northeast, by car, if you pass thru Denver (during the rush hour), or 104 miles if you go around Denver. Here's the citation for the semi shooting: Phil Tenser, Marshall Zelinger, 7 News Denver (ABC) The Denver Channel, 8/31/15.

Sleuthers from CO, would one shooter should have had time to do both?

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Thanks Forager so much for keeping the great map updated. It sure tells the story when we can see it like this.

We can let the CO residents jump in about the 2 Yellow markers and whether they could have made the drive between the 7:20 to 9:00 timeframe, but just to throw out my opinion based on the roughly 90 mile distance and the fact that it could be done primarily with highways and also based on someone's post a long time ago that people drive very fast around Denver, I would think it is possible that the same shooter did both yellow incidents. That's a really good observation to consider if those 2 incidents occurred on same day.

If LE ends up proving those 2 were from same shooter I wonder if it tells us anything about where he was headed or where he lives. Seems awful early to be shooting way out near Wiggins unless he just woke up and found a target right away. Maybe someone stayed the night at a friends place in Wiggins, got up early on his mission to drive home and do some terrorism along the way maybe?

Anyway. Thanks again Forager for maintaining this GREAT MAP.
 
  • #309
Forager said:
We don't have much on the nature of whatever it is that is hitting the windows in the incidents that seem most clearly to fit the NOCO window shatterer's MO. We have the dent on the door frame of Donna Sharp's car, we have Cori Romero's neck wound, and we have a report of a guy with a slingshot on the side of I-25. We have three windshields with impact marks, and one side window with enough glass left in it that you can make out part of the circle left by the projectile. We've got nothing on the others 23 or so but the empty space left by a side or back window.

FindHG said:
There was a lady who saw a guy lean over a hood of an older yellow or gold Honda to shoot, she had described seeing it from far away... .
< abriged with respect, for focus >

You are remembering it correctly, but that report was from the series of eleven or so incidents that occurred mostly in Jefferson County, just south of Denver, in 2013... < abridged >

By weird coincidence, that piece from yesterday about the new series of window shatterings in the Morrison area, south of Denver, cleared up the story of the guy who shot across the highway. LE had determined that he was a local property owner after coyotes. But that still leaves eleven unsolved window shatterings from 2013 in Jefferson County. And now the four more from the last month and a half in the same area.
 
  • #310
http://www.wwmt.com/news/features/t...s-of-vehicles-hit-by-projectiles-199642.shtml

Calhoun Co, MI looking into new reports of vehicles hit by projectiles
Updated: Fri, Sep 04 2015, 01:28 AM

CALHOUN COUNTY, Mich. (NEWSCHANNEL 3) - The Calhoun County Major Crimes Task Force is looking into two new reports of vehicles getting hit by projectiles on the highway.

This time, it happened on I-69.

The task force says the information came in around 5 p.m., regarding incidents at the 54 mile marker, near the I-69 business loop in Eaton County, and mile marker 42, north of Marshall.

Drivers around the area are on edge as the task force searches for a possible shooter.

Cars have been damaged along I-94 and I-69 in Branch and Calhoun Counties over the past month.

At least one was hit by a bullet.

At this point, investigators will only say the two latest incidents involved projectiles.
 
  • #311
http://www.wwmt.com/news/features/t...s-of-vehicles-hit-by-projectiles-199642.shtml

Calhoun Co, MI looking into new reports of vehicles hit by projectiles
Updated: Fri, Sep 04 2015, 01:28 AM

CALHOUN COUNTY, Mich. (NEWSCHANNEL 3) - The Calhoun County Major Crimes Task Force is looking into two new reports of vehicles getting hit by projectiles on the highway... .
< abridged in response >
At this point, investigators will only say the two latest incidents involved projectiles.

The count keeps rising in Michigan, with three on Thursday, and at least one of those involving a bullet. Still no injuries.

"Newschannel 3 was on-hand Friday, for a media briefing with the Calhoun County Major Crimes Task Force, where we learned three trucks have now been hit with bullets ... .

... there have been about 20 incidents in which vehicles traveling along I-94 and I-69 have received some type of damage--some from road debris, and some from causes yet unknown."

From:Amy Hibles, Newschannel 3, 9/4/15, Calhoun Co. Sheriff: Nearly 20 vehicles reported projectile damage along I-94, I-69
 
  • #312
Really excellent work and thoughtful quality posts here guys. I had to step away for a couple days for my own sanity...I knew it was about that time because, well remember the recent white truck incident where the woman saw the passenger hang out of the truck and point a gun at her? Well, there was a white truck in front of me on Thursday and a head suddenly popped out of the passenger side. My heart almost stopped...it was a DOG lol...He was just happy as ever, enjoying the car ride and summer wind in his face...:biggrin:

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/morrison-police-investigate-another-rash-of-window-shatterings-on-c-470


Seems like every day this week there is a non-story about shattered windows that are not connected to the NOCO shootings...this is the latest...on C-470 near Morrison, which I believe we have talked about before...


"four such incidents in the last month and a half"... "In these instances, we always check for bullets or anything else"...


Also from the link above, for reference (thanks again sg and everyone for helping keep up with all of these so that they can be documented in a chronological manner in these threads! I think that is one of the most important things that can be done re: all of this (in addition to the maps, etc.):


"MORRISON, Colo. - There has been another rash of shattered windows being reported by drivers on C-470 near Morrison.

An Evergreen couple told investigators they were driving southbound on C-470 around 9:00 Monday morning when the driver's side window of a van next to them exploded, sending bits of glass onto their car.

"They're the one who called it in as shots being fire," said Lt. Anthony Joiner II of the Morrison Police Department."



rsbm


But you do lay it out nicely. The Jacoby and Cannole killings, on the one hand, and the I-25 window shatterings on the other hand seem so different in technique and effect that I would have called them two different cases if the Romero shooting didn't link them.


Well stated; I know what you guys mean! I go around in circles re: what all could be connected, and it all comes back to CR and JJ being definitively tied.


Jumping off that, what if that was an error? I see it all the time on Forensic Files, etc...mistakes that can greatly impact a case. I do think they're related, I'm just saying for the record...


It looks to me like the NOCO window shooter is in a hypermanic phase. Or that two are active.


I've added a round yellow marker to the case map to reflect the report of an 8/31/15 window shattering along C-370 near Morrison that SearchingGirl posted today, based on a Lance Hernandez ABC 7 piece of 9/2/15. It is apparently the forth such incident in the area in the last month and a half. None of the earlier ones had been reported. (Foxfire commented on it earlier today, trying to point out that you don't have to have a bullet sitting in a back seat or an exit hole to have a gun involved.)


That 9:00 AM incident was the second window shattering we have heard about from Monday 8/31/15. The other was the shot to the semi's windshield that happened "between 7:20 and 7:40 AM" near mile marker 144 on Highway 34 in Morgan County (the other yellow marker on the screenshot). That's about 80 miles northeast, by car, if you pass thru Denver (during the rush hour), or 104 miles if you go around Denver. Here's the citation for the semi shooting: Phil Tenser, Marshall Zelinger, 7 News Denver (ABC) The Denver Channel, 8/31/15.


Sleuthers from CO, would one shooter should have had time to do both?


Wow, this is all truly overwhelming. It really makes me feel truly sick to my gut.
As always, thank you for this great map.

Re: the time factor, this is an involved question with possible geographical specifics I'll have to come back to, but my initial answer is yes, that I think it is possible.


Thanks Forager so much for keeping the great map updated. It sure tells the story when we can see it like this.


We can let the CO residents jump in about the 2 Yellow markers and whether they could have made the drive between the 7:20 to 9:00 timeframe, but just to throw out my opinion based on the roughly 90 mile distance and the fact that it could be done primarily with highways and also based on someone's post a long time ago that people drive very fast around Denver, I would think it is possible that the same shooter did both yellow incidents. That's a really good observation to consider if those 2 incidents occurred on same day.


If LE ends up proving those 2 were from same shooter I wonder if it tells us anything about where he was headed or where he lives. Seems awful early to be shooting way out near Wiggins unless he just woke up and found a target right away. Maybe someone stayed the night at a friends place in Wiggins, got up early on his mission to drive home and do some terrorism along the way maybe?


Anyway. Thanks again Forager for maintaining this GREAT MAP.


This is a good point imo about looking at possible awareness space by analyzing these two incidents collectively (even if not definitively linked). The same can and needs to be done imo re: other incidents, especially the ones in April. There have been multiple incidents within single days, particularly around the time CR was shot. IIRC, the denverchannel did a great synopsis of these via a timeline, all documented chronologically for reference in Thread One (link to first thread for reference: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...e-Serial-Shooter-Has-Colorado-Drivers-on-Edge).


http://www.wwmt.com/news/features/top-stories/stories/Calhoun-Co-looking-into-new-reports-of-vehicles-hit-by-projectiles-199642.shtml


Calhoun Co, MI looking into new reports of vehicles hit by projectiles
Updated: Fri, Sep 04 2015, 01:28 AM


CALHOUN COUNTY, Mich. (NEWSCHANNEL 3) - The Calhoun County Major Crimes Task Force is looking into two new reports of vehicles getting hit by projectiles on the highway.


This time, it happened on I-69.


The task force says the information came in around 5 p.m., regarding incidents at the 54 mile marker, near the I-69 business loop in Eaton County, and mile marker 42, north of Marshall.


Drivers around the area are on edge as the task force searches for a possible shooter.


Cars have been damaged along I-94 and I-69 in Branch and Calhoun Counties over the past month.


At least one was hit by a bullet.


At this point, investigators will only say the two latest incidents involved projectiles.


In these MI incidents, which are so frightening and make me feel sicker by the moment (if that's even possible), I keep noticing their use of the word "projectiles", a word that has not really used in the NOCO incidents.


The count keeps rising in Michigan, with three on Thursday, and at least one of those involving a bullet. Still no injuries.


"Newschannel 3 was on-hand Friday, for a media briefing with the Calhoun County Major Crimes Task Force, where we learned three trucks have now been hit with bullets ... .


... there have been about 20 incidents in which vehicles traveling along I-94 and I-69 have received some type of damage--some from road debris, and some from causes yet unknown."


From:Amy Hibles, Newschannel 3, 9/4/15, Calhoun Co. Sheriff: Nearly 20 vehicles reported projectile damage along I-94, I-69

What in the world is going on!?
 
  • #313
I'm embarrassed to say that I don't know if you can have secret arrests in the US. Can you help us here, Prairiewind?

My money, however, is still on the more straightforward theory that they just haven't identified anyone yet. Looking at other cases of deliberate highway shootings has convinced me that they are very hard to solve if the perp remains cautious. The key to solving them always seems to be the sharp eyes of an average Joe or Jane catching something. (Or SearchinGirl catching it on her GoPro.) Pretty much as Foxfire has been telling us from the get go.

Many times in high profile or terror related crimes, law enforcement will arrest POIs or Suspects for unrelated crimes in an attempt to hold them while awaiting lab results and continued investigations. I have a hunch that this may be the case in the NOCO shooter investigation.. jmo

Generally you can't have "secret arrests" in the U.S. If someone has been arrested, the charging documents would indicate some details of what is alleged, and that is public record. If LE has a suspect, but think there is a larger ring/conspiracy, they would maybe question that person but not arrest yet. But more likely would just follow them and continue the investigation, then charge everyone later if they can get the evidence. Filing charges too early can be risky for a prosecutor, because a defendant has a right to a speedy trial. Arrest too soon before all the evidence is in and you risk not being able to prove your case or tipping your hand sooner than you want.

In addition, I would think person(s) could be held on such charges as felony menacing, or a charge having to do with a "firearm" specifically...

"Misdemeanor & Felony Menacing. Menacing involves the use of threat or by physical action knowingly placing a person in fear of imminent serious bodily injury, or attempting to do so."
(*source: same definition listed on various Colorado defense attorney websites)
 
  • #314
You are a great synthesizer, Margarita. I definitely would have hired you to do my term papers!
 
  • #315
Really excellent work and thoughtful quality posts here guys. I had to step away for a couple days for my own sanity...I knew it was about that time because, well remember the recent white truck incident where the woman saw the passenger hang out of the truck and point a gun at her? Well, there was a white truck in front of me on Thursday and a head suddenly popped out of the passenger side. My heart almost stopped...it was a DOG lol...He was just happy as ever, enjoying the car ride and summer wind in his face...:biggrin:

Also from the link above, for reference (thanks again sg and everyone for helping keep up with all of these so that they can be documented in a chronological manner in these threads! I think that is one of the most important things that can be done re: all of this (in addition to the maps, etc.):

"MORRISON, Colo. - There has been another rash of shattered windows being reported by drivers on C-470 near Morrison.

An Evergreen couple told investigators they were driving southbound on C-470 around 9:00 Monday morning when the driver's side window of a van next to them exploded, sending bits of glass onto their car.

"They're the one who called it in as shots being fire," said Lt. Anthony Joiner II of the Morrison Police Department."

Well stated; I know what you guys mean! I go around in circles re: what all could be connected, and it all comes back to CR and JJ being definitively tied.

Jumping off that, what if that was an error? I see it all the time on Forensic Files, etc...mistakes that can greatly impact a case. I do think they're related, I'm just saying for the record...

Wow, this is all truly overwhelming. It really makes me feel truly sick to my gut.
As always, thank you for this great map.

Re: the time factor, this is an involved question with possible geographical specifics I'll have to come back to, but my initial answer is yes, that I think it is possible.

In these MI incidents, which are so frightening and make me feel sicker by the moment (if that's even possible), I keep noticing their use of the word "projectiles", a word that has not really used in the NOCO incidents.

What in the world is going on!?

<respectfully snipped for focus and space>

I agree Margarita25, 'Overwhelming, very possibly related, and WTH is going on'? I am very impressed with the Calhoun County MI Sheriff's department's transparency and straight forward approach of info sharing with the public via ms/social media..

"Nothing is easier than to denounce the evil doer; Nothing more difficult than understanding him." Quote by Fyodor Dostoevsky

"Things are not always what they seem; the first appearance deceives many; the intelligence of a few perceives what has been carefully hidden." quote by Phaedrus

The person/s responsible for these highway shootings are not like you or I. They are very dark soulless creatures with no conscience, nor human emotions; 'psychopaths or sociopaths, for those who are PC among us'..
Their victims are only disposable objects to them.. For them it is about control and having the power of life, injury, or death over others, while causing pain & terror to the communities...

'Evil Mask of Normalcy'...

As in any culture, or in any community spread across this great nation, there are those who continuously refuse to adapt to an empathetic & civilized society, skirting the rules and laws that guide the rest of us through life. Fortunately they are a very small percentage of the population; the exception rather than the rule.

Due to their selfish need to fulfill their evil desires and or fantasies, their lack of empathy for others, as well as their self assurance of remaining anonymous or stealth by hiding behind their masks of normalcy (at least in the darkness of their delusional minds), they resort to the unimaginable, or unconscionable deviant behavior..

These psychopathic predators, who know no boundaries of sanity, prey on unsuspecting innocent victims. These predators hone their skills with each innocent victim targeted, increasing confidence and causing escalation of these horrific crimes.

Although, most of these psychopathic predators have an uncanny ability to shield their motives, due to their expressionless face or hiding behind their fake smiles, combined with their lifeless eyes. They cannot conceal their lies and rouses forever..

The only effective means of protection that we all possess is vigilance, awareness, and communication. Be cautious, adhere to personal safety rules, and trust your 'natural born instincts'... jmo
 
  • #316
http://www.cleveland.com/akron/index.ssf/2015/09/akron_highway_shooting_mirrors.html
Akron highway shooting mirrors series of similar incidents across the country

In Cleveland, OH, an officer reported that someone shot at his police van about 11:30 p.m. Saturday as he drove along St. Clair Avenue between East 140th and East 148th streets. The officer reported hearing two shots fired.

Other incidents include:

Shortly before midnight on Sunday, a car was shot by someone traveling in another car as they drove along Interstate 75, according to the Cincinnati Enquirer. Three people were shot, including one who was severely injured from shots fired from a rifle. The passengers in the car were on their way to a nightclub, according to police. Police have not made any arrests.
In southwestern Michigan, at least five cars were struck by what investigators believe were bullets from between July 29 and Aug. 21, CNN reported. Most of those shootings &#8212; on Interstate 94 and Interstate 69 in Calhoun County &#8212; happened during the daytime, according to WOOD Channel 8 in Grand Rapids. No one was injured, but police believe the shootings are related.

In Durham, North Carolina, a man was shot in his torso about 3:30 a.m. Saturday, according to WRAL-TV. A woman riding in the passenger seat was shot in the leg.
In East Charlotte, North Carolina, a man driving about 6 p.m. Saturday was shot. The man told WSOC-TV that the shooter's car swerved up behind his car, then fired one shot that hit his car.

In Phoenix, Arizona, someone shot at four cars driving on Interstate 10, according to the Arizona Department of Public Safety.

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  • #317
http://www.cleveland.com/akron/index.ssf/2015/09/akron_highway_shooting_mirrors.htmlAkron highway shooting mirrors series of similar incidents across the country


In Cleveland, OH, an officer reported that someone shot at his police van about 11:30 p.m. Saturday as he drove along St. Clair Avenue between East 140th and East 148th streets. The officer reported hearing two shots fired.


Other incidents include:


Shortly before midnight on Sunday, a car was shot by someone traveling in another car as they drove along Interstate 75, according to the Cincinnati Enquirer. Three people were shot, including one who was severely injured from shots fired from a rifle. The passengers in the car were on their way to a nightclub, according to police. Police have not made any arrests.
In southwestern Michigan, at least five cars were struck by what investigators believe were bullets from between July 29 and Aug. 21, CNN reported. Most of those shootings &#8212; on Interstate 94 and Interstate 69 in Calhoun County &#8212; happened during the daytime, according to WOOD Channel 8 in Grand Rapids. No one was injured, but police believe the shootings are related.


In Durham, North Carolina, a man was shot in his torso about 3:30 a.m. Saturday, according to WRAL-TV. A woman riding in the passenger seat was shot in the leg.
In East Charlotte, North Carolina, a man driving about 6 p.m. Saturday was shot. The man told WSOC-TV that the shooter's car swerved up behind his car, then fired one shot that hit his car.


In Phoenix, Arizona, someone shot at four cars driving on Interstate 10, according to the Arizona Department of Public Safety.


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This is too much. NOCO alone is too much, but now possibly Michigan, Ohio, North Carolina, Arizona...?

Okay. Taking a step back for a minute, and taking a different approach, trying to think like the shooters. (Can we deduct that we can use the term "shooters" in the plural sense, at least if not here in NOCO, on a national level, whether or not related to each other?)

Assuming there is some sort of organized ring responsible for some of these incidents, how does one specifically become involved with / get recruited by a group like this? I remember early on when Foxfire initially and intuitively suggested the possibility of something along the lines of ISIS / Lone wolf / NS, that social media was mentioned as a conduit for recruitment. So, how does that work specifically? Does one look for terrorists and "friend them"? How do they know they are terrorists?...Argh, having a hard time trying to find the words to ask what I'm wondering...let's try this...if one wanted to get involved with such a group here in the US, how would they go about doing it? There must be specific websites, forums...they could be training abroad, then coming here to the US like prior terrorists of course, but if they're home grown, how does that work as far as joining with other like minded individuals? People knowing each other through family / friends / "religious" establishments? I'm specifically wondering about the social media aspect. I did not want to delve too deeply into the whole ISIS thing for my own sanity and security lol, but I guess a cursory education on the subject might be necessary here. I guess if they're a lone wolf they are already crazy /angry with the US and gov't, so do these people operate independently, or via instruction of other leaders? Again, where does one meet these people if specifically through the net (what type of "social media" sites)...I don't want to know too much, I really don't, so I guess I'll just rely on some basic info from you guys, and perhaps a basic summary from Wiki. I agree the hush hush points towards something deeper than some young punks, and it perhaps agencies like perhaps National Counter Terrorism agencies / HS could be handling all of this.
 
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This is too much. NOCO alone is too much, but now possibly Michigan, Ohio, North Carolina, Arizona...?

Okay. Taking a step back for a minute, and taking a different approach, trying to think like the shooters. (Can we deduct that we can use the term "shooters" in the plural sense, at least if not here in NOCO, on a national level, whether or not related to each other?)

Assuming there is some sort of organized ring responsible for some of these incidents, how does one specifically become involved with / get recruited by a group like this? I remember early on when Foxfire initially and intuitively suggested the possibility of something along the lines of ISIS / Lone wolf / NS, that social media was mentioned as a conduit for recruitment. So, how does that work specifically? Does one look for terrorists and "friend them"? How do they know they are terrorists?...Argh, having a hard time trying to find the words to ask what I'm wondering...let's try this...if one wanted to get involved with such a group here in the US, how would they go about doing it? There must be specific websites, forums...they could be training abroad, then coming here to the US like prior terrorists of course, but if they're home grown, how does that work as far as joining with other like minded individuals? People knowing each other through family / friends / "religious" establishments? I'm specifically wondering about the social media aspect. I did not want to delve too deeply into the whole ISIS thing for my own sanity and security lol, but I guess a cursory education on the subject might be necessary here. I guess if they're a lone wolf they are already crazy /angry with the US and gov't, so do these people operate independently, or via instruction of other leaders? Again, where does one meet these people if specifically through the net (what type of "social media" sites)...I don't want to know too much, I really don't, so I guess I'll just rely on some basic info from you guys, and perhaps a basic summary from Wiki. I agree the hush hush points towards something deeper than some young punks, and it perhaps agencies like perhaps National Counter Terrorism agencies / HS could be handling all of this.

Who knows if any one factor exits that would tie it all together or a common cause that gives the shooters the will to do it?

I found this New Yorker story by Ben Taub from Sept 3rd, '15, interesting in terms of ISIS. The various road shooting incidents could just be a copycat wuss phenom among like minded shooters with not much else in common besides the need to do it. They may be feeding off each other but not linked by a common cause? The shooters behind this recent spread of incidents across states don't seem intent on getting caught, as they shoot. Not getting caught in the act doesn't seem a priority for the cause driven ones, but it's hard to tell without more information about the shooters caught. Going by past shooters caught doesn't make it any easier to tell for the obvious reasons.

If any number of the incidents are organized or around a single interest or cause that links them, then one might conjecture that adding to a general sense of unease along those roads for some reason is a boon to them or a marker of sorts, but then why not take credit for their cause?
 
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http://www.cleveland.com/akron/index.ssf/2015/09/akron_highway_shooting_mirrors.html
Akron highway shooting mirrors series of similar incidents across the country

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There is less than meets the eye in that story, as least as to the types of multiple random highway shootings that we're interested in. The reporter cites the Phoenix, AZ and Calhoon, MI incidents, but also ticks thru five other case which appear to be one-offs of the kind that happen all the time across the country. The Phoenix and Calhoon incidents aside, he could have put together a similar story on any given week of the year.

- In Arkron there was a targeted murder attempt in which the perp knew the primary victim. A second vehicle was hit by stray bullets.

- In Cleveland, a policeman heard two shots that he thought were aimed at his van. There have been no other road attacks reported recently in Cleveland that I could find.

- On I-75 near Cincinnati one car opened up on another with an assault rifle in what appeared to be a targeted attack involving victims who were criminals.

- In Durham, NC, someone was shot at while driving on a residential street. No details. Not part of any apparent pattern.

- In East Charlotte, North Carolina, a man was shot in an apparently targeted shooting in stopped traffic on a secondary highway. Not part of any apparent pattern.

- In Phoenix, AZ there were multiple random shootings that do seem within our scope of interest.

- In Calhoon, MI, ditto.

I do think that random highway shootings are becoming more common, and that there may be something in common behind some of them, but this story isn't really addressing it.
 
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Millis, Massachusetts – The MA policeman who claimed his car was fired on has been terminated from his job. The situation that we previously reported in which a police cruiser was “shot,” then crashed and caught on fire has been determined to be bogus.

http://unclesamsmisguidedchildren.com/ma-policeman-who-claimed-his-car-was-shot-at-fabricated-story/

“We have determined that the officer’s story was fabricated. Specifically, that he fired shots at his own cruiser as a plan to concoct a story that he was fired upon. The evidence indicates the shots were not fired by a suspect, and there is no gunman at large in or around the town.”Millis Police Sgt William Dwyer
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Cop who claimed he was targeted by gunman fabricated story, police say
Massive manhunt launched after Millis officer reports shooting

UPDATED 9:21 PM EDT Sep 03, 2015
http://www.wcvb.com/news/millis-schools-closed-thursday-as-hunt-for-gunman-continues/35077538
 
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