Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #24

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By Wed morning no doubt LE had approached Anadarko for Chris’s GPS records, and they were using an Anadarko drone to search sites. LE probably also asked for his email records. CO is an employment at will state and they could have fired CW just because if the fuss, but I think it’s highly likely they saw something in where he was with the truck (not where he said he was and/or was supposed to be) or something in his emails that violated company policy and provided grounds for termination. The grounds wouldn’t necessarily be even related to the case.
Thanks for your input! As a VI, your opinion certainly means a lot! I had not heard before that it was Anadarko drones they were searching with. That in itself helps put some of the term timeline into perspective.
EBM to correct typo
 
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  • #322
Maybe he felt he wouldn’t be believed ...
He did unbelievable things, like desecrate the bodies of small children. Honestly, what would be your explanation for dumping them in crude oil? That he thought no one would believe SW killed them?
 
  • #323
I thought it meant he strangled her until she ultimately died.
Yes, it could be! Since it can take a long time. There is a great deal of violent kicking and thrashing that occurs, due to the intense pain and urgent need to gasp for air. So it may imply that he attempted to strangle her and he ultimately succeeded. That sounds like the most reasonable assumption to me. I bet you are right. Jmo
 
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But if you like you say it was pre-planned he had hours to do that, did he not?
This is one of the things that really makes me think it wasn’t planned in advance.

I understand the rationale that the flight delay threw him off and left him with less time - but even if you’re in a hurry, i don’t understand forgetting the MAJOR things - you’re disposing of 3 bodies. Why not dispose of the purse (which was sitting out on the kitchen counter) at the same time? Turn the phone off (we know he had access to it) and dispose of that as well?

You’re trying to hide 3 bodies in a place where you’re hoping they won’t be found... you’re going to wait and find a second hiding place for the purse, later on?
 
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  • #326
He didn’t dump the car or Shanann’s belongings, throw the sheets away, or take any number of additional measures that he likely would have taken, had he had the time. His ability to stage the scene, was destroyed by Shanann’s friend.

he may have assumed he had way more time than he did. you have to understand the arrogance of these guys, and the fact that they TRULY believe that what they think and what they want is WHAT WILL HAPPEN. there is no awareness of outside authority. or of their beholdenness to that authority. they are above the law in their minds. they think everyone believes everything they say, because until they get caught, everyone always has. or everyone had been complicit in covering for them. they have no concept that other people may be smarter than them, or that there is any objective reality outside what they believe.
 
  • #327
Because I know how much she loved her girls, and the facts of the case (specifically the things that have been published about the flight delay and events/findings the following day) lead me to believe they were dead before she came home.
Do you think there is a possibility they argued first, as he claims they had an "emotional conversation" and once the argument ensued he could have killed her first, then killed the girls? Is there any way you see her confronting him about the affair?
 
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They had a law suit from HOA pending . We know they filed bankruptcy in 2015. Looking at the debt we know it seemed to be her debt IMO . Ex chiropractor , nursing school , and many high end stores . Would it be possible that her vacations were not covered by level ? I know they cover some costs but I can’t imagine the debt with leasing the Lexus and her insurance . I know if you do not meet certain requirements Level pays nothing . If they spoke of selling the house it would maybe be linked to debt or separation imo
With chronic health issues with BW, CCW and SW, a pending pregnancy with health risks along with financial implications with that pregnancy, financial issues (HOA and who knows if they had other lingering financial issues arising from the bankruptcy), marital and relationship issues and dysfunction, an AP and/or AP's, CW's sexual identity issues and secret life if we are to believe reports, the Thrive SM presence throughout every aspect of their lives ~ it appears to me like a slow burning forest fire getting out of control that ignited that morning. How it played out, hopefully the evidence will prove without a doubt what actually happened.
 
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Yes, it could be! Since it can take a long time. There is a great deal of violent kicking and thrashing that occurs, due to the intense pain and urgent need to gasp for air. So it may imply that he attempted to strangle her and he ultimately succeeded. That sounds like the most reasonable assumption to me. I bet you are right. Jmo
There were some other words in that affidavit that I doubt he actually used, like he "dumped the girls inside the oils (sic) tanks" When I read that I was thinking, hmmm...he chose that word, dumped?
 
  • #330
Abusers know how to behave in public to appear peaceful and loving. They also know how to bait their victims to set them off so they look like the abusive ones - or at least unstable. master manipulators. nothing he does in public is very likely a realistic representation of his real personality - except laughing and smiling in interviews the day his family was killed.
Yes, it would appear he is the master of deceit. Jmo
 
  • #331
Perhaps at or around the same time, the affair with a co-worker was also revealed to management at Anadarko; a violation of company policy. I wonder if AP is still employed there. Things that make you go hmmmm...

I've also wondered if AP was terminated. IMO, CW not only disrespected his marriage by having an affair, he also disrespected his employer.
 
  • #332
There were some other words in that affidavit that I doubt he actually used, like he "dumped the girls inside the oils (sic) tanks" When I read that I was thinking, hmmm...he chose that word, dumped?
Interesting. He could not have "placed them there, or "laid" them there. He would have had to have dropped or tossed them. So "dumped" is an interesting term. Imo
 
  • #333
There were some other words in that affidavit that I doubt he actually used, like he "dumped the girls inside the oils (sic) tanks" When I read that I was thinking, hmmm...he chose that word, dumped?

Much of that affidavit was likely paraphrased, as there were terms usually used by LE in there. I wouldn’t read it as a verbatim quote.
 
  • #334
I think it is the use of the word 'ultimately' that may give an inference that something happened prior to the strangulation.

An emotional conversation, per CW.
 
  • #335
I've also wondered if AP was terminated. IMO, CW not only disrespected his marriage by having an affair, he also disrespected his employer.
But do we actually know who the AP was other than speculation? Until then we can only speculate she worked for Anadarko.
 
  • #336
This guy is so terrible. On sooooooo many levels.

(Understatement I know. Jus sayin...)

Are you talking about the red headed lawyer sitting next to C.W. in Court? He look so familiar and I can’t place him.
 
  • #337
Interesting. He could not have "placed them there, or "laid" them there. He would have had to have dropped or tossed them. So "dumped" is an interesting term. Imo
Oh I use it all the time, or "stuffed" which is the way I envision him putting the bodies through that quite small hole, if those tank videos are accurate. I just don't think a supposedly grieving father would use that term. Maybe "put". But by the time he confessed, I'll bet a lot of people who type in that office were fed up with the idea of 2 little girls tossed dumped placed thrown stuffed dropped smacked into crude oil. And there were no quotes on that term dumped.
 
  • #338
But do we actually know who the AP was other than speculation? Until then we can only speculate she worked for Anadarko.

LE said that she was a co-worker.
 
  • #339
But do we actually know who the AP was other than speculation? Until then we can only speculate she worked for Anadarko.
Name hasn't been released but it has been stated it was a co-worker.
 
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