Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #27

[katydid23]

My bestie told me that the tank's manhole is attached to the surface. A quick mechanical procedure to unscrew the lid and then lift up. Once you are finished, proceeds to flip down and reattached. Tanks could have different sizes and openings; circumferentially speaking.

Which leads me to the mechanical/manual labor of what ensue at the oil field.

Park the pick up, open door, grab body, up the ladder, proceed to place the body on the floor, unscrew manhole lid, lift lid, pick up body, dump on the tank, close lid, grab the wrench/tool, reattached. Go down to the stairs and repeat process.
Dig a shallow grave (read Bill Carson's post about digging a grave); go to the pickup, pick up the body of your wife who is carrying a baby inside, dump her on the ground, shovel dirt available from a recent excavation and covered her body. Back to pickup .. and back to business as usual.

My stomach is turning as I'm writing this. To the people who don't agree with my accomplice scenario, maybe you are right, maybe not. Maybe my mind can't process how can someone did that twice and them dig a shallow grave (read Bill Carson's post about digging a grave);. That's why I speculate of an accomplice; because I can't fathom what I described above.

Uncanny, disgusting, eerie, cruel, selfish, evil, vicious and unnecessary.

JMO MOO

I agree. It is hard to fathom how he could do all that alone. But it is even harder for me to imagine he could find anyone to help. Who helps someone hide the murders of baby girls?

 

[MassGuy]

But that was part of his act. I am not worried, she will bring them back soon, she can't live without me, while all the time he knew his little girls were in crude oil and the woman who could not live without him was in a shallow grave he dug for her. The man is evil.

That’s true. During one of the nightly news broadcasts (when I first heard about the case), they played a short portion of his interview.

At the time, I was left with the impression that he knew more than he was saying. Of course, I was thinking along the lines of, he knows where they are and who they are with. I wasn’t thinking he knows where they are because he’s killed and disposed of them.

 

[Layla123]

But that was part of his act. I am not worried, she will bring them back soon, she can't live without me, while all the time he knew his little girls were in crude oil and the woman who could not live without him was in a shallow grave he dug for her. The man is evil.

That’s true. He was preparing us for the revelation that they’d had an emotional conversation the night before, and she’d decided to leave and never come back again. He was breaking it to us gently.

 

[JudgeJudi]

@Medstudies

Here’s the thing: he meant for them to stay missing. So her family and friends would never know wth happened to them. So police and family would waste their entire lives not knowing. Anguish. That is what makes it so heinous for me. He is beyond evil. But at least he can straight up lie and sleep well.

Yep, but he couldn’t lie straight in bed if he tried. (Aussie idiom … someone who lies a lot and is very dishonest)

 

[JudgeJudi]

@idfinch

“On the subject of the sheer hypocrisy of the defense demanding their own DNA expert to collect extra evidence from the girls necks, etc, yet trying to block collection of his palm prints and DNA as being unconstitutional or a violation of his rights, it's just despicable. But at least that has been consistent from his actions from day one IMO. Get away with as much as you can, blame as much as you can”.

And get away with murder if you can.

 

[Mosaic]

I agree. It is hard to fathom how he could do all that alone. But it is even harder for me to imagine he could find anyone to help. Who helps someone hide the murders of baby girls?

I'm totally clueless as to who would as well. It seems like too much, too quick.

 

[Bill Carson]

@Layla123

“According to People Magazine, CW is depressed, despondent, and not speaking to his family. Hope he feels ashamed and guilty. Maybe he will cop a plea. 'Depression Is Setting in' for Chris Watts as He's Jailed in Deaths of Wife, Daughters, Source Says”.

'Depression Is Setting in' for Chris Watts as He's Jailed in Deaths of Wife, Daughters, Source Says

It would be hard to talk to your family after having admitted that you had murdered your wife, BUT wouldn’t he want to try and convince them that he played no part in the death of the babies. Many families stand by their children after they’ve been charged with murder. The fact that he doesn’t want to speak to them shows that he’s a coward.

BBM
Anybody in jail needs to be very careful talking to family, friends, visitors, or fellow inmates. There is no privacy, except for lawyer visits. The jail can listen to and record phone calls to the jail. They read the mail going in and coming out. They listen through the phone system when you visit with people through the glass. And the prosecutors would love for CW to make a jailhouse confession to a bunkmate.

 

[Bill Carson]

Still regularly on ID. They all go from friends to irritated to move your camera/fence/tree to running someone over with a backhoe. It gives me anxiety.

Aw, I won't be able to watch it because I don't have a cable subscription.

 

[Bill Carson]

@idfinch

“On the subject of the sheer hypocrisy of the defense demanding their own DNA expert to collect extra evidence from the girls necks, etc, yet trying to block collection of his palm prints and DNA as being unconstitutional or a violation of his rights, it's just despicable. But at least that has been consistent from his actions from day one IMO. Get away with as much as you can, blame as much as you can”.

And get away with murder if you can.

His defense lawyers are doing everything they can to keep him off death row. And they also want to make sure nobody can claim ineffective assistance of counsel.

Edit for typo

 

[Jennifer17]

I agree. It is hard to fathom how he could do all that alone. But it is even harder for me to imagine he could find anyone to help. Who helps someone hide the murders of baby girls?

No one, unless they are related to him and are part of his enablers.

 

[Mosaic]

Whatever the explanation, I think he stepped on the bag inside his house.

We don’t know where the bag or bags were found, but there’s no evidence that it came from the oil tanks.

I also don’t think he would have climbed down the ladder, because just throwing the bodies down there would suffice.

Respectfully disagree. Manholes are attached with bolts or latches in order to prevent contamination. You cant just fling something over. JMO

 

[MassGuy]

Respectfully disagree. Manholes are attached with bolts or latches in order to prevent contamination. You cant just fling something over. JMO

So you’re saying he’d have to physically climb down the ladder with the bodies in hand, in order to dump them in there?

 

[katydid23]

@idfinch

“On the subject of the sheer hypocrisy of the defense demanding their own DNA expert to collect extra evidence from the girls necks, etc, yet trying to block collection of his palm prints and DNA as being unconstitutional or a violation of his rights, it's just despicable. But at least that has been consistent from his actions from day one IMO. Get away with as much as you can, blame as much as you can”.

And get away with murder if you can.

THANK YOU. That's exactly how I feel. Hey, we demand the touch DNA on the baby's necks, after you retrieve them from the oil vats. But where does the state get off, trying to demand this poor suspects handprints? That's violating his rights! GMAFB...

 

[OTPTarheel2018]

Aw, I won't be able to watch it because I don't have a cable subscription.

Off Topic- you can watch the ID Channel on PlayStation Vue. Much cheaper than cable. No cable for 7 years.

 

[Jennifer17]

That’s true. During one of the nightly news broadcasts (when I first heard about the case), they played a short portion of his interview.

At the time, I was left with the impression that he knew more than he was saying. Of course, I was thinking along the lines of, he knows where they are and who they are with. I wasn’t thinking he knows where they are because he’s killed and disposed of them.

Well, there you go. My first thought was he knew where they were. Dead and buried by his hand, but I did not ever think a father would submerge his children in crude oil. That was the shocker to me. Not that he killed them, but he would defile their little bodies in that way.

 

[JudgeJudi]

Not unusual whatsoever. You do realize this may be tried as capital murder, and the penalty of death if found guilty, right?

I think the Prosecution may also consider the cost before deciding if they want to try it as capital murder.

Studies of the California death penalty system, the largest in the US, have revealed that a death sentence costs at least 18 times as much as a sentence of life without parole would cost.

5 Myths About the Death Penalty - Death Penalty Focus

 

[MassGuy]

Well, there you go. My first thought was he knew where they were. Dead and buried by his hand, but I did not ever think a father would submerge his children in crude oil. That was the shocker to me. Not that he killed them, but he would defile their little bodies in that way.

I didn’t really suspect him until I saw a longer portion of the interview.

Yeah, the way he disposed of them was quite a shock.

 

[Bill Carson]

See ya mañana, mi amigos!

 

[MassGuy]

I think the Prosecution may also consider the cost before deciding if they want to try it as capital murder.

Studies of the California death penalty system, the largest in the US, have revealed that a death sentence costs at least 18 times as much as a sentence of life without parole would cost.

5 Myths About the Death Penalty - Death Penalty Focus

It’s great leverage though. A plea is so much easier.

 

[JudgeJudi]

BBM
Anybody in jail needs to be very careful talking to family, friends, visitors, or fellow inmates. There is no privacy, except for lawyer visits. The jail can listen to and record phone calls to the jail. They read the mail going in and coming out. They listen through the phone system when you visit with people through the glass. And the prosecutors would love for CW to make a jailhouse confession to a bunkmate.

I was thinking more that he would be taken to a separate room to speak with anyone, but obviously the room could be bugged. Would it be a different room to that where he spoke to a lawyer?