Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #30

[katydid23]

IMO some of the most fascinating and telling info will come from the AP if she testifies.

She's a total unknown other than the fact that she worked with CW (assuming she's a she, I don't believe the guy on AB) and was having an affair with him.

We don't know if she wanted a future with him or if it was a FWB situation, if he confided in her about his marriage, what he said about SW and the girls, what promises he may have made her, how she felt when she found out about the murders, what her take is on what happened, who did it and why.

By all accounts, no one seemed to know CW very well or be too close to him. Clearly the marriage was troubled in some way. It seems to me like the AP might be the only person with intimate knowledge of what was really going on with him in those weeks before the murders.

I agree with everything you said, except for the last sentence. The AP might have some intimate knowledge of what Cw SAID was going on. But we don't know how truthful CW was with the AP and his friends/family.

 

[katydid23]

I wonder if CW public defenders believe his story?

I doubt it.

 

[Thepoet]

Gotta go! Learned a lot today. Take care all and be well. Best is yet to come?

 

[nwmouse]

I wonder if CW public defenders believe his story?

Dunno, but if they do I have a beautiful bridge in California to sell them Just MOO!!!!!
Personally speaking and I'm just a lay person, I don't believe his crock 'n bull story. Not for one second!

 

[NuttMegg]

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I wonder what made CW ask for the separation whole SW was pregnant? He could have carried on the affair and waited til she'd had the baby, not many men would leave at that time would they?

We don't know that he asked for a separation.

 

[Jennifer17]

They had 2 chances to speak alone. However much time was involved in meeting him at the airport and driving back, then again at the police dept when cw decided he would tell the "truth" if he got to speak with his father again. I have a hard time imagining that cw gave his father the same song and dance as he gave in the media interviews. Did his father tell cw to tell the truth? There is a story that we may never get to hear, but i can't believe the father really thinks sw killed those kids. Imo

IMO, at his first interview with the police, he was still selling that they just vanished and when they presented him with the information that they had found her body and the bed sheet, he wanted to talk to his father, then came up with his 'truth'.

 

[SaguaroSpirit]

Gotta go! Learned a lot today. Take care all and be well. Best is yet to come?

I hope so and believe so!

 

[MyBelle]

The audience she wanted to impress most, were Thrive customers (or potential ones).

Some of the posts may have not have had that intent, but if you ignore the context, you misread the content.

In the videos I saw, Thrive was barely mentioned with the exception of flashing a sticker. I still have no idea what it is or what it is supposed to do. There was nothing that remotely resembled consumer product marketing in those videos. JMO

 

[Layla123]

I know people have said that a few things were taken down from SW’s Facebook (what/why do you think that happened?), but is anyone surprised that someone associated with SW’s social media accounts hasn’t taken more stuff down or made them private? Maybe they feel there is nothing to hide, or that it would look bad to lock stuff down?

I can’t answer your questions, but do I think it was short sighted of whoever it was to remove some, but not all, or just leave it all up there because I saw what was there before the cleanup, and there were many more loving posts about CW and the girls, including one she wrote the last night in Arizona, where she said she couldn’t wait to get home to C.W. and the girls. I’ve seen many come to false conclusions based on what remains and the fact that there were no recent posts. I have to wonder if the DA instructed them to remove what was removed.

 

[SausagePizza]

I doubt it.

The CW public defenders are most likely sick to their stomach also.

 

[MassGuy]

Totally agree. Poor woman is having her character ripped apart based on some SM posts. Yep - she must have deserved to be murdered! (Saying sarcastically). <modsnip>

The point that some of these people are trying to make, is that these social media posts somehow indicate that she could be the murderer of her children.

Others are trying to show that these videos provide some sort of motive for CW’s crimes.

I firmly believe that both groups are dead wrong.

 

[sun16]

They had 2 chances to speak alone. However much time was involved in meeting him at the airport and driving back, then again at the police dept when cw decided he would tell the "truth" if he got to speak with his father again. I have a hard time imagining that cw gave his father the same song and dance as he gave in the media interviews. Did his father tell cw to tell the truth? There is a story that we may never get to hear, but i can't believe the father really thinks sw killed those kids. Imo

The conversation CW had with his dad coming home from the airport had to be very different than the conversation they had just before CW’s confession, don’t you think? I would always love my child no matter what, but man, I’d have a hard time believing what the truth really is.

 

[MassGuy]

In the videos I saw, Thrive was barely mentioned with the exception of flashing a sticker. I still have no idea what it is or what it is supposed to do. There was nothing that remotely resembled consumer product marketing in those videos. JMO

It’s supposed to sell an image, the image is the marketing. She doesn’t literally have to make a sales pitch, to be selling.

 

[Kensie]

SW and her unborn child did not deserve to be murdered. Bella did not deserve to be murdered. Celeste did not deserve to be murdered. IMO, CW murdered them. Videos should not even be considered as a reason for murder. CW wanted out of the marriage and responsibilities.

If I looked as good as SW, I might post videos of myself on SM. I think her age group probably was a factor. Her age group posts a lot of videos on SM, so I have been told.

 

[MassGuy]

The conversation CW had with his dad coming home from the airport had to be very different than the conversation they had just before CW’s confession, don’t you think? I would always love my child no matter what, but man, I’d have a hard time believing what the truth really is.

Exactly. The whole reason for having a second conversation is because he lied during the first one. CW and the truth, are not close friends.

 

[katydid23]

It does raise red flags for me when it is obvious that the parent is emotionally unavailable and is unaware the child is merely reacting to the situation the parent has placed her in. I also wonder if SW was suffering from depression. The audience she seems to want to impress the most is herself. JMO

<Modsnip took out snark> You consider SW 'emotionally unavailable' to her children? How many pix and videos do we see where she is hugging them, holding them, laughing with them, telling them how great they are, what a good job they are doing, etc?

I have seen emotionally disconnected parents, and SW was not one of them, imo.

 

[Kensie]

What is Thrive anyway??? What is in the patch? Those patches kind of bother me. I don't think I would wear one where it could be seen.

Answered my own question.

Thrive Patch Review (UPDATE: 2018) | 10 Things You Need to Know

 

[nwmouse]

Something to think about....

We don't know that SW made all of her SM public. She very well might have made lots of posts with a limited audience, but we can't "see" that.

So we have to keep two things in mind: 1) what we know, and 2) what we don't know.

Also, I think the prosecution will be able to recreate all of CW's social media, and the defense will have access to that before trial, so there's a chance we will see some of that at trial.

It will be interesting to see CW's SM. I don't think my opinion of him will waiver though, as I'm siding with the victims in this case, the three females and SW's unborn son. I cannot bear to see CW's smirking face or even think of the unborn son as CW's. To me, they are SW's and he has no right even to call the girls his daughters after what he did!

 

[NuttMegg]

If a man/woman is happily married...would they still have an affair?

Yes, just depends on the reason for the affair whether or not it indicates an unhappy marriage. Imo

 

[Jennifer17]

Who thinks that his father hot-footed it up to CO after seeing those inappropriate interviews to do some damage control.