Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #35

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  • #681
SW moved out there first. She lived with the family she nannied for. CW followed with a U-Haul shortly after.

SW “hurried to sell her residence and left furniture behind as part of the sale,” the buyer told the Associated Press. A deed for the NC house was signed in August 2012 while SW was living in Colorado, property records show.

CW worked as a mechanic at the same dealership SW did Internet sales for in her free time. They lived with the family SW nannied for during this time. Their boss has been quoted as saying, “He was very passive. She was very aggressive with him. Bossy. Do this. Do that. Telling him what to do. Dominating the relationship. That I do know.”

The couple bought their home in 2013. CW’s name was on the deed.
Bella was born the same year.

They filed for bankruptcy in 2015 with over $400,000 in debt. CeCe was born shortly after.
Will you please link the article you have quoted? TIA
MOO
 
  • #682
Maybe there was a reason they left NC. Maybe they wanted to get away from there.
We also recently learned that they had new custom kitchen cabinets installed inside of that $400K home.
 
  • #683
We also recently learned that they had new custom kitchen cabinets installed inside of that $400K home.
I think either someone posted it or I saw it on the news that SW Dad made the cabinets. I could be wrong but I remember seeing/reading that somewhere.
 
  • #684
I think there are oil wells all over the Denver area, some producing more oil than others. And those that do produce more oil, require more maintenance. CW’s chosen oil field only produced 200 gallons per month, and I think that means it was left untended to for long periods of time. I think C.W. knew this, and for that reason chose this location. I think he thought he was going to get away with it.

I understand the tanks can be checked anywhere from annually up to several years. Once they're full, perhaps they just sit there for an indefinite period. Who knows how long he may have gotten away with it.
 
  • #685
It also could be the other way around, IMO. The dominant partner will want to remove the support system in order to maintain control, regardless of sex.
MOO
Sure it could be either way, just that I believe the weaker person gets jealous easier, and usually the woman has the larger support system, and usually it's the man who wants to have her to himself, is jealous of extended family who seem so secure in their familyhood.
 
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It also could be the other way around, IMO. The dominant partner will want to remove the support system in order to maintain control, regardless of sex.
MOO

Or the dominant partner isn't liked by dominant family members who feel she's a threat because she's assertive and doesn't baby her spouse the way they feel she should.
 
  • #688
Or the dominant partner isn't liked by dominant family members who feel she's a threat because she's assertive and doesn't baby her spouse the way they feel she should.
All permutations occur. Aside from extended family influence, IMO the worse situations are where a submissive person marries another submissive person and they each want the other to take over. Or vice versa, 2 dominants marry and it's a royal battle.
 
  • #689
What accomplice?? I have obviously missed something.
There was a very interesting discussion last night, a poster said he/she was involved in the local oil business, or at least said they knew some things, and that the tanks could not be opened without setting off an alarm, and I think the theory was presented that there was an accomplice. Go back above half way in the thread, it was around midnight EST.
 
  • #690
All permutations occur. Aside from extended family influence, IMO the worse situations are where a submissive person marries another submissive person and they each want the other to take over. Or vice versa, 2 dominants marry and it's a royal battle.
I can imagine a domestic violence case in the two dominants situation, bruises, etc. but not a planned murder. Although, who knows?
 
  • #691
After SW’s divorce from her 1st husband, she began working at a car accessory company in Fayetteville, NC called Dirty South Customs. Her SM references her sales job there and there are many pictures of her at car shows, etc.

In 2009 she was named in a lawsuit against Dirty South and her boss. The court docs are public & I can link them here if it’s allowed.

This was the same year SW began building her home in NC. It was a beautiful home.

SW stopped working at Dirty South by 2010. She began nannying for a friend & did this for several years. I believe she did various MLMs to supplement her income during this time.

The family she worked for was transferred to CO, and SW & CW followed them out there in 2012. CW had been employed as a car mechanic at a Ford dealership in NC & got an equivalent job at a Ford dealership in CO. SW continued to nanny & worked in Internet sales for the same dealership in her free time.

They bought their house on Saratoga Trail in 2013. SW stated in SM videos that she had wanted to move to CO to “escape the drama.”

Could you link to all these facts?
 
  • #692
We also recently learned that they had new custom kitchen cabinets installed inside of that $400K home.
Shanann’s father made them, according to AB. He’s a cabinet maker. They are gorgeous!
 
  • #693
Colorado or NC?

CO, as per AB on 09/26/18

Layla wrote:

4. SW’s father built and installed Kitchen cabinets in SWs kitchen, he’s a cabinet maker. He built the orange stool seen in videos that kids played on. Maybe he’s taking those?
 
  • #694
There was a very interesting discussion last night, a poster said he/she was involved in the local oil business, or at least said they knew some things, and that the tanks could not be opened without setting off an alarm, and I think the theory was presented that there was an accomplice. Go back above half way in the thread, it was around midnight EST.
Very interesting.
I wonder if CW merely could set his own schedule of checks, or easily modify the schedule.
 
  • #695
Actually, it does. Every second of data is logged on a computer program. So you can see exactly where that truck is, has been, and for how long. It is a computer program/system on the truck, it is not just a GPS.

This is to allow employers to track the costs, and yes, movement of an employee. If the data from your truck is an "outlier" on the program in comparison with other trucks, you get to explain why your truck was parked for 2 hours next to the KitKat club, from 1-3 pm. On Tuesday, June 2nd. When everyone else's truck was cruising around to job sites.

The wonderful technology. And the reason I loathe driving company cars. "It is a perk", they said. I say, Bull. It is an invasion of privacy. They own it...they track it.

Well if he knows that it explains things. He really didn't have time. But I'm sure burying her in a shallow grave wasn't Plan a. I wonder what it was?
 
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CO, as per AB on 09/26/18

Layla wrote:

4. SW’s father built and installed Kitchen cabinets in SWs kitchen, he’s a cabinet maker. He built the orange stool seen in videos that kids played on. Maybe he’s taking those?

Ok. So that doesn't mean they put money into it, right?
 
  • #698
There was a very interesting discussion last night, a poster said he/she was involved in the local oil business, or at least said they knew some things, and that the tanks could not be opened without setting off an alarm, and I think the theory was presented that there was an accomplice. Go back above half way in the thread, it was around midnight EST.

I don't think that CW had an accomplice. Unless the person rivals Plakleds, from Star Trek. There is no reason for anyone to get involved in a scenario like this. Even if the sensors went off, the "Mental Giant", probably had some bizarre story to justify this, that made sense in his brain cell.
 
  • #699
We also recently learned that they had new custom kitchen cabinets installed inside of that $400K home.

I think either someone posted it or I saw it on the news that SW Dad made the cabinets. I could be wrong but I remember seeing/reading that somewhere.

Colorado or NC?
It was on AB, the same show as the 8" hatch discussion.
Then she started talking about/had pictures of the moving truck in front of the house.
She talked about SW father building the cabinets himself and the little red stool for the girls (in the kitchen).

EDIT... Oooops, I type too slow, I see above me, it has already been answered. lol
 
  • #700
SW moved out there first. She lived with the family she nannied for. CW followed with a U-Haul shortly after.

SW “hurried to sell her residence and left furniture behind as part of the sale,” the buyer told the Associated Press. A deed for the NC house was signed in August 2012 while SW was living in Colorado, property records show.

CW worked as a mechanic at the same dealership SW did Internet sales for in her free time. They lived with the family SW nannied for during this time. Their boss has been quoted as saying, “He was very passive. She was very aggressive with him. Bossy. Do this. Do that. Telling him what to do. Dominating the relationship. That I do know.”

The couple bought their home in 2013. CW’s name was on the deed.
Bella was born the same year.

They filed for bankruptcy in 2015 with over $400,000 in debt. CeCe was born shortly after.

Please include links for this stuff. Like what the boss purportedly stated.
 
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