Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #37

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  • #201
Yes but I don't believe there is going to be a video of CW killing them all.

I can’t speak for anyone else, but I’m certainly not waiting for a video of the murders to come out.
 
  • #202
Yeah it's very rare to hear of child killers being harmed in prison. Mostly they keep people segregated and protected in different sections.

Regardless, I'm about constitutional justice. Not prison justice.


I hope nobody took from my post that I'm about anything but constitutional justice!! I'm very clear about my feelings about prison justice and/or vigilante justice (against).
 
  • #203
They charged CW prior to having the autopsy reports, internet searches, dna, and texts/emails.
jmo

They may have had e-mails/texts by the time of the arrest. It only took them 2 days to confirm an affair with a co-worker.

We do know CW consented to the search and seizure of SW's phone.

We have not seen any of the search warrants - I'm sure those will provide a plethora of information.
 
  • #204
But why would that matter?
If SW lied about her OB's approval it certainly shows a reckless disregard for the health and safety of her unborn child. I think the jury would find that relevant since her husband is accusing her of harming her other children. JMO
 
  • #205
If SW lied about her OB's approval it certainly shows a reckless disregard for the health and safety of her unborn child. I think the jury would find that relevant since her husband is accusing her of harming her other children. JMO
A liar accused the victim of murder. His postoffense actions strongly indicate that he isn’t telling the truth.

I’m sure the jury will not bat an eye at something so speculative, especially when there is actual evidence to the contrary.
 
  • #206
If SW lied about her OB's approval it certainly shows a reckless disregard for the health and safety of her unborn child. I think the jury would find that relevant since her husband is accusing her of harming her other children. JMO
Do you think the defense is going into her medical records to check to see if she was lying about any illnesses? Or treatments? As I mentioned, all you have to do is look up the product on google and you will get different recommendations for use in pregnancy.
 
  • #207
I think he might have been trying to hide the sheet and pillowcases that were in the trash, though I figured that was probably because they matched the one he left at the oil site rather than that they had evidence on them. On the other hand it could have been for both reasons?

But I also think that his main priority was to hide the bodies, then when he got home that night he could tidy up any loose ends in the house. Thanks to NUA he didn't get a chance to do that, but I don't think he had any desire to not conceal evidence, because he hid the biggest evidence of all. The evidence that allowed him to go on TV and say "I have no inclination where they are" (or was it where she is?)

He also (assuming he killed them all) chose a method of murder that would leave less evidence in the home than something 'messy' like stabbing or shooting. That could be because strangulation came 'naturally' to him, or it could have been a purposeful choice to not get a knife out of the kitchen and take it upstairs with him because he didn't want to leave blood spatter around and have to clean that up. If there had been blood all over the bedrooms, then he wouldn't have been able to go on TV for those interviews as he would have been in the police station in an interview room to explain where that blood came from.

He had time between when LE cane the first time and the second to get rid of things
 
  • #208
This case is going to get crazy with lack of info being released. I've seen a few articles in the last 24 hrs saying prosecution doesn't want reports released because they are horrendous I have seen reports that there is no DNA linking cw to children's murder .basically just people reporting their views. I think this is going to be a long case with alot of surprises

Does any one expect that there would be DNA from CW on the children? They were submerged in a vat of crude oil. That is not helpful in preserving touch DNA, IMO.
 
  • #209
Autopsies Complete in Christopher Watts' Murder Case - In Touch Weekly

I never found In Touch Weekly to be a very reliable source about most anything i ever read in it

"Since their completion, however, there are growing concerns that the results may allow Watts to walk free."

No one is quoted having said this. I wonder if the growing "concerns" are from journalists reading posts here or on SM.

Edited to fix grammar
A friend once gave me a bunch of In Touch magazines to read while I was recovering from surgery. Every single title to every article was misleading and the details were innaccurate or vague. I have never read it since. I would not believe a thing they write. Imo
 
  • #210
He had time between when LE cane the first time and the second to get rid of things
If he tried to dispose of things that they had already seen, like the purse and bedsheets, that would have been incredibly suspicious.

I’m confident they were already watching the house anyways. Nothing was leaving the scene without them knowing about it.
 
  • #211
They may have had e-mails/texts by the time of the arrest. It only took them 2 days to confirm an affair with a co-worker.

We do know CW consented to the search and seizure of SW's phone.

We have not seen any of the search warrants - I'm sure those will provide a plethora of information.

I realize that, my post was in response to another poster stating CW was charged after they had the things I mentioned. Just trying to keep the facts straight.
 
  • #212
They charged CW prior to having the autopsy reports, internet searches, dna, and texts/emails.
jmo

They probably did have texts and emails.
 
  • #213
If SW lied about her OB's approval it certainly shows a reckless disregard for the health and safety of her unborn child. I think the jury would find that relevant since her husband is accusing her of harming her other children. JMO

I don't think her use of a what is essentially a vitamin patch that seems to be okay with at least some doctors constitutes reckless disregard for her baby's health. She wasn't drinking or doing meth. As some of our other posters have pointed out, it's a bit of a long walk to ask a jury to take from Thrive patches to murder. Not to mention, every single thing we know about SW indicates she was incredibly circumspect about her health and her kids' health. In fact, she's been roundly criticized for it. Based on that, I don't believe she lied and it would have to be a proven lie to even come close to what you're suggesting. Jmo.
 
  • #214
If SW lied about her OB's approval it certainly shows a reckless disregard for the health and safety of her unborn child. I think the jury would find that relevant since her husband is accusing her of harming her other children. JMO

And couldn't the prosecution argue that he showed the same reckless disregard for his son's health and safety when he killed his mother, and then buried them both in a shallow grave? MOO
 
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I hope nobody took from my post that I'm about anything but constitutional justice!! I'm very clear about my feelings about prison justice and/or vigilante justice (against).

Thanks for your comments. It seems like you were giving info re your horribly sad situation. Tears!
 
  • #217
A liar accused the victim of murder. His postoffense actions strongly indicate that he isn’t telling the truth.

I’m sure the jury will not bat an eye at something so speculative, especially when there is actual evidence to the contrary.
SW claimed on a video that both her OB and midwife had approved the Thrive patches. Nothing speculative about a video and the defense can certainly prove whether it is true or not. JMO
 
  • #218
And couldn't the prosecution argue that he showed the same reckless disregard for his son's health and safety when he killed his mother, and then buried them both in a shallow grave? MOO

If this goes to trial it’s going to be interesting to see how it plays out.
jmo
 
  • #219
Does any one expect that there would be DNA from CW on the children? They were submerged in a vat of crude oil. That is not helpful in preserving touch DNA, IMO.
it depends we're they still in the bags and to be honest he's been looking after them all weekend his dna should be there .but it would be is there DNA under nails there's just so much we don't know and probably won't know.
 
  • #220
If he tried to dispose of things that they had already seen, like the purse and bedsheets, that would have been incredibly suspicious.

I’m confident they were already watching the house anyways. Nothing was leaving the scene without them knowing about it.

He could have cut the sheets into tiny pieces. Then he could have put them under a jacket or into a lunch box,

Was the sheet seen on the first walk through? Her purse would have been seen
 
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