Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #40

[tmar]

if the girls COD is different from what CW said in his confession, then he is in big trouble.

As we know, CW has continually lied, COD may not be, as he confessed.
CW's confession, is probably another cover up, to what really happened.
He used this confession, once LE provided some evidence, to worry him.
More evidence will be produced, and CW's so called confession, will be tossed out. MOO.
However, if he can strangle his girls, watching them die, then this would add to thoughts world wide, about CW's character: an evil, heartless monster.

 

[margarita25]

Here’s a thought...it seems I/we have been thinking of it as who died first, the girls or Shanann.

Well for all we know, it could have been one of the girls first, then Shanann, then another one of the girls. I hadn’t seen this thought mentioned, it just popped my mind.

ETA: @PommyMommy, have you run across such a pattern in other FA cases you have noted so far? (Child, mother, child)

 

[Jennifer17]

I am not sure why CW's word that she killed the kids is given so much weight. There is a balance here. On one hand we have the evidence that points to him being the killer, on the other hand we simply have his word that it was her. And he has lied. A lot.

To me if defies all logic. Ask for evidence that she killed the girls and we get vague hints of insider knowledge of mental health records ( ?HIPPA )and facebook vids that no one else can see any hidden meanings in.
Where is the evidence?

 

[tmar]

Interesting looking at your sentence, the letters N, A, U appear in both her name and the word you used INVALUABLE.

You are very observant, as many of our Posters are.
We are helping in solving this case, without any further input, from the 'crime enforcer', pathetic CW.

 

[MerryB]

I don't understand why nobody wants to answer this question who believes in this scenario. It is difficult to have a discussion of both scenarios without it IMO. I stated my case for one scenario, but I don't have any takers so far for a discussion of the other one. I am left to conclude there isn't any credible evidence in the public realm at this time to support that SW killed her children, which is what I thought but was hoping to hear people out.

Are you addressing me or other posters?
I’ve already expressed what, for me, were “red flags” regarding SW’s behavior. I know many don’t agree.
Have those things convinced me? No. But they’ve caused me to be open to both scenarios. I’m anxious for more evidence to come out.
You may be addressing other posters who have been less vocal.

 

[Dum-Dum Sucker]

It would be interesting to know the actual monetary damages, remove the oil, clean out tanks, refill, if possible. I doubt that they discarded the oil. And the interruption of operations. The truck was probably held for evidence. Just the hassle, and being involved in the crime. It must have been substantial amount of money, time, effort.

I read somewhere on here that the company announced that it would, indeed, discard the oil.

JMO

 

[Jennifer17]

Are you addressing me or other posters?
I’ve already expressed what, for me, were “red flags” regarding SW’s behavior. I know many don’t agree.
Have those things convinced me? No. But they’ve caused me to be open to both scenarios. I’m anxious for more evidence to come out.
You may be addressing other posters who have been less vocal.

But red flags to what
<modsnip - personalizing>

 

[Tippy Lynn]

How come being neutral until more information comes out doesn’t seem to be acceptable?

ETA : or not willing to jump off the fence just yet

 

[MassGuy]

How come being neutral until more information comes out doesn’t seem to be acceptable?

This is in general and not directed at anyone specifically.

It’s not the act of being “neutral” that’s at issue. It is the insinuation that not only do Facebook videos show a dark side of Shanann, it’s that these videos literally open the door to the possibility that she killed her children.

It’s the idea that social media posts, somehow change the game.

 

[Best of What's Around]

Are you addressing me or other posters?
I’ve already expressed what, for me, were “red flags” regarding SW’s behavior. I know many don’t agree.
Have those things convinced me? No. But they’ve caused me to be open to both scenarios. I’m anxious for more evidence to come out.
You may be addressing other posters who have been less vocal.

THANK YOU. Sincerely. We might not always agree, but I appreciate when people answer questions asked in earnest.

 

[PommyMommy]

Here’s a thought...it seems I/we have been thinking of it as who died first, the girls or Shanann.

Well for all we know, it could have been one of the girls first, then Shanann, then another one of the girls. I hadn’t seen this thought mentioned, it just popped my mind.

ETA: @PommyMommy, have you run across such a pattern in other FA cases you have noted so far? Tia.

Jeffrey MacDonald, if the investigators were correct that Collette regained consciousness after his first attack on her.
Jeffrey R. MacDonald - Wikipedia

 

[MerryB]

But red flags to what
<modsnip - personalizing>

Search my old posts & you will see I am being truthful.

 

[Ilovemy3boys]

How come being neutral until more information comes out doesn’t seem to be acceptable?

ETA : or not willing to jump off the fence just yet

When some posters are picking apart her Facebook videos and questioning her mental health and parenting,etc., that’s not really considered neutral. You’re basically trying to give reason as to why SW could have killed her kids.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

This is in general and not directed at anyone specifically.

It’s not the act of being “neutral” that’s at issue. It is the insinuation that not only do Facebook videos show a dark side of Shanann, it’s that these videos literally open the door to the possibility that she killed her children.

It’s the idea that social media posts, somehow change the game.

Respectfully, some who are neutral or not willing to jump off the fence just yet haven’t insinuated anything about the videos or looked at SM.

 

[Seattle1]

You’re making the assumption he killed the children.

With all respect, he was charged with their murder..

 

[Jennifer17]

This is in general and not directed at anyone specifically.

It’s not the act of being “neutral” that’s at issue. It is the insinuation that not only do Facebook videos show a dark side of Shanann, it’s that these videos literally open the door to the possibility that she killed her children.

It’s the idea that social media posts, somehow change the game.

And not only that. The constant hinting that some people know more than others because they have inside information regarding SW's mental health.

 

[cailleach]

He had a choice. I don't think anyone forced him to go on doctors visits with her instead of dates.

Not everyone is going to like this but sociopaths actually choose their people. I've seen people who know SW well mention things that would have made her rather ideal at the time they met. She was generous with a loving heart, extremely empathic of others, didn't have much self-confidence in herself, and has always been a caretaker type of personality. Add to that the fact she was suffering from a chronic long-term illness and she fits their profile rather nicely. Even her reluctance to get involved with anyone at that time for fear her illness was going to make her a burden/unattractive gave him the opportunity to swoop in and being the protector figure so many women who fit the profile seek. JMO.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

When some posters are picking apart her Facebook videos and questioning her mental health and parenting,etc., that’s not really considered neutral. You’re basically trying to give reason as to why SW could have killed her kids.

Some are not doing what you are saying.

 

[Allabouttrial]

And not only that. The constant hinting that some people know more than others because they have inside information regarding SW's mental health.

What people? What mental health? Have you got anything to back that up?

 

[JudgeJudi]

Your family was abducted on Monday but you spend the night at a friend's house on Tuesday?

Why?

Did LE force him to sleep somewhere else?

If so than that's strange.

Diddums was probably very scared.

Last night I had every light in the house on. It was a traumatic night trying to be here". (big swallow)

Strange how he doesn't mention what a traumatic night it was when he saw Bella sprawled on her bed and was blue, watched his wife strangling Cece and then he murders SW. That's our Chris. What a guy.