Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #43

[DexterMorgan]

Perhaps. But, most women keep their purse. My wife says it doesn't make sense. I'm not going to argue with my wife! LOL!

Agree. Never argue with the misses.

 

[molly1255]

I keep thinking Deeter probably features in what she did when she came in. Dogs can be sensitive to changes or upsets and he may have been unsettled.

Doxie's are very smart and sensitive little dogs. Deeter was probably very traumatized by what he witnessed or sensed that night. I recall reading that a neighbor said he barked all day long on Monday, until the police got there.

I'm so glad Deeter ended up in a very good place . Poor little guy.

 

[Mellowmelly]

Yes, very good. I'll be interested to see COD, TOD, stomach contents, and what SW and the girls were wearing. If my theory is correct, SW and the girls were dressed in regular clothes, not PJs!

Me too, and if that’s true then it means none of them made it to bed that night, and he was outside barbecuing while his own flesh and blood lay deceased in that house.. sick is the word.

 

[molly1255]

Agree. Never argue with the misses.

I might be the "odd" woman out, lol, but I never keep my purse in the same place. If I'm not carrying something into the house, my purse usually ends up on my entry console table. If I am carrying in groceries, my purse usually ends up in my kitchen, on the island.

I'm very neat and tidy, too, but I just don't keep anything in my purse that I need when I'm at home so I don't go looking for it until just before I leave the house. I do always keep my keys in the same exact place, though.

 

[molly1255]

He was so sloppy in just about everything that he did, that I think it’s entirely possible that he didn’t even think about that aspect, what they were wearing.

If those kids weren’t in their pajamas though, or whatever their usual bedclothes were, that would be both incredibly telling, and deeply disturbing.

SW was probably 100% responsible for organizing not only her house and children, but him as well. That may have been one of the things he hated about her, too.

Given the disastrous mess he created on his own, I can't imagine what SW dealt with on a daily basis with him.

JMO.

 

[MassGuy]

SW was probably 100% responsible for organizing not only her house and children, but him as well. That may have been one of the things he hated about her, too.

Given the disastrous mess he created on his own, I can't imagine what SW dealt with on a daily basis with him.

JMO.

I think you’re right. This guy probably needed help getting dressed in the morning.

 

[NuttMegg]

If she needed medication and water to take it, why walk all the way to the stairs with the suitcase first? And leaving the purse in the kitchen was out of character for her, she didn't leave things lying around.

Part of his story is probably true, in that he went downstairs for something. I always figured it was to get bags for what he now deemed to be garbage. Was there a baby monitor downstairs? Maybe she came in and saw something unexpected on the downstairs baby monitor, left her purse lying there to run upstairs just to get ambushed and murdered.

 

[MyBelle]

Correct. No evidence of HIV, marriage counseling, or of SW killing her babies.

Just speculation.

The "SW killing her babies" isn't just speculation by posters here. According to the arrest affidavit, it is what CW told LE. JMO

 

[bonjoviblonde]

If she needed medication and water to take it, why walk all the way to the stairs with the suitcase first? And leaving the purse in the kitchen was out of character for her, she didn't leave things lying around.

Perhaps. But, most women keep their purse close and have a place they put it. Not just laying around. There must have been things in the purse she would need to get ready for bed and/or in the morning. Doesn't make sense. My wife says it doesn't make sense. I'm not going to argue with my wife! LOL!

I am one of those "OCD" super organized women like SW. Just ask my family. However, I see nothing odd about her shoes being at the door rather than upstairs or her purse being on the kitchen counter. I don't have a specific place for my purse, although when I come in the house it usually ends up on the dining room table because that's closest to the door I came in. I also leave my shoes at the door (in a basket of course). My bedroom is upstairs and I don't carry my shoes upstairs to my bedroom when I get home even though I'm a super neat freak. Nor do I usually take my purse upstairs with me. My phone yes, but not my purse. You would laugh at all of the things I keep in my purse, however, it's nothing I don't have upstairs if I need it (medication, makeup, first aid, etc). There's nothing in my purse I would need to get ready for bed or in the morning, but that's just me. So I don't think it's odd her shoes and purse were where they were found. I do think it's odd and rather stupid for CW to leave her purse at the house but I still think he would have dealt with that later if it wasn't for NUA.

 

[Backstroke10]

The "SW killing her babies" isn't just speculation by posters here. According to the arrest affidavit, it is what CW told LE. JMO

IMO CW statement in the affidavit that SW killed her babies is as worthless, if not more, than my statement thinking he is HIV positive. JMO
Edited to clarify - my statement/thought that he may be HIV positive, at least comes from personal experiences with that issue and CW seemingly promiscuous lifestyle, of course I may be completely wrong with the HIV idea; but his statement is a ludicrous,flat out lie. IMO

 

[MassGuy]

The "SW killing her babies" isn't just speculation by posters here. According to the arrest affidavit, it is what CW told LE. JMO

CW also told LE, and the world, that he saw his kids on the monitor before he left that morning, that he had no idea where his family was, and that he was worried about them.

The very fact that he claims something is true here, is indicative of one thing:

That he is lying.

To believe him, is to speculate that he is telling the truth. Dubious at best.

 

[bonjoviblonde]

The "SW killing her babies" isn't just speculation by posters here. According to the arrest affidavit, it is what CW told LE. JMO

What? It absolutely is specuation. The words of a lying cheating murderer are not proof. So because he said it, we should all take his word for it until we find out for sure otherwise? We have all been speculating how this crime went down, no matter who did it. We know for sure he killed SW and the baby and dumped his children's bodies. What we don't know for certain is if and how he killed the girls. Hence the over 40 threads on this subject. SW killing her babies is also speculation, although we haven't heard a lot of detailed theories on that other than that's what CW said happened.

 

[MyBelle]

IMO CW statement in the affidavit that SW killed her babies is as worthless, if not more, than my statement thinking he is HIV positive. JMO

We'll agree to disagree. LE obviously didn't think CW's statement was "worthless" because they included it in the affidavit. There is no evidence whatsoever that CW is HIV positive or even may be positive. I consider it salacious rumor planted by entertainment media. JMO

 

[Thepoet]

SW was probably 100% responsible for organizing not only her house and children, but him as well. That may have been one of the things he hated about her, too.

Given the disastrous mess he created on his own, I can't imagine what SW dealt with on a daily basis with him.

JMO.

You make an interesting point. Maybe, one of his motives was to prove how much smarter he was, than SW. And therefore, the "dupers delight" later. Wrong again!

 

[MyBelle]

CW also told LE, and the world, that he saw his kids on the monitor before he left that morning, that he had no idea where his family was, and that he was worried about them.

The very fact that he claims something is true, is indicative of one thing:

That he is lying.

To believe him, is to speculate that he is telling the truth. Dubious at best.

CW admitted he strangled SW, is that also a lie?

It is true CW saw his kids on the baby monitor before he left the house that morning. That also is included in the arrest affidavit. JMO

 

[MassGuy]

We'll agree to disagree. LE obviously didn't think CW's statement was "worthless" because they included it in the affidavit. There is no evidence whatsoever that CW is HIV positive or even may be positive. I consider it salacious rumor planted by entertainment media. JMO

They obviously thought his statement was in fact worthless, because they proceeded to charge him with five counts of first degree murder, right after he made it.

That tells us all we need to know.

 

[MassGuy]

CW admitted he strangled SW, is that also a lie?

It is true CW saw his kids on the baby monitor before he left the house that morning. That also is included in the arrest affidavit. JMO

No. She didn’t strangle herself.

He did not see his kids on the monitor that morning before he left that house. We know this.

Those kids were crammed into the back seat with their mother, just before he crammed their little bodies into tanks filled with oil.

 

[Thepoet]

We'll agree to disagree. LE obviously didn't think CW's statement was "worthless" because they included it in the affidavit. There is no evidence whatsoever that CW is HIV positive or even may be positive. I consider it salacious rumor planted by entertainment media. JMO

You're right, the HIV thing is salacious and unfounded.

LE's job is to investigate all facts and then the DA takes over. The DA, based on all the evidence, charged CW with five (5) counts of first degree murder and other charges, there by negating his claim.

 

[bonjoviblonde]

We'll agree to disagree. LE obviously didn't think CW's statement was "worthless" because they included it in the affidavit. There is no evidence whatsoever that CW is HIV positive or even may be positive. I consider it salacious rumor planted by entertainment media. JMO

Uh they kinda did since they charged him with 5 counts of first degree murder.

 

[MyBelle]

What? It absolutely is specuation. The words of a lying cheating murderer are not proof. So because he said it, we should all take his word for it until we find out for sure otherwise? We have all been speculating how this crime went down, no matter who did it. We know for sure he killed SW and the baby and dumped his children's bodies. What we don't know for certain is if and how he killed the girls. Hence the over 40 threads on this subject. SW killing her babies is also speculation, although we haven't heard a lot of detailed theories on that other than that's what CW said happened.

If CW's words are not proof, then his confession to killing SW is also a lie. I prefer to use logic that makes sense to me. It is nonsensical to insist everything CW said is a lie when there is a confession to police. JMO