Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #44

[PommyMommy]

Does anyone know if the hearing Tuesday will be streamed live?

I've asked Denver7. Haven't received a reply yet. MOO

 

[Johnny1181]

I've asked Denver7. Haven't received a reply yet. MOO

Thank you!

 

[MassGuy]

I've asked Denver7. Haven't received a reply yet. MOO

Of course you did.

 

[human]

I always figured she was gonna sleep on the couch, either to not wake anyone or because of their issues, she didn't want to sleep w him. If she even made it that far, otherwise I think it was tossed there in a struggle.

Do you think she put sheets on the couch? Sleeping on a leather couch with no sheets does not sound appealing to me.

 

[Layla123]

I think this was just something they had to do immediately, as a matter of public relations.

This was a high profile case, and not only was a company employee charged with five counts of murder, but the bodies were dumped on company property.

They had to get out ahead of this.

I remember the Patriots did the same thing, the day Aaron Hernandez was arrested for murder.

I didn’t know about the Patriots. Have any other murderers been immediately fired? Do you know?

 

[PommyMommy]

Of course you did.

They will be sick of me by the time this one is over, lol.

 

[DexterMorgan]

The reason I mentioned that earlier is because I'd think he would have expected NUA to have called, had he known about the appt. Yet he seemed to be unready for her call to come unlock the house.

Exactly. If my lady missed her doctors appointment that morning and her best friend said come and unlock the house.

I would immediately say wtf. She has missed 1000s of appointments before. So why this rush home now?

So obviously he knew what he did and he knew that NUA had a clue that something was wrong. Jmo.

So his guilty conscious sent him home on alert status. Jmo

 

[MassGuy]

I didn’t know about the Patriots. Have any other murderers been immediately fired? Do you know?

I’m not sure, other than those two high profile cases.

This was really the only move they could make if they wanted to minimize the hit to their image.

It’s bad enough to have a murderer in your employ, but worse when he tries to coverup the crime on your property, using your oil tanks to do it.

 

[human]

I’ve often thought it was odd that Anadarko announced CW’s firing so soon after he was arrested. I’ve wondered if some disciplinary thing might have happened at work in the days preceding the murders. CW was having an affair with someone at work. Maybe they fooled around at work and got caught. Maybe he knew his days were numbered, and he would no longer be bringing in an income. That would sure fit the family annihilator profile. Wouldn’t that be interesting?

Colorado is a right to work state. An employer can fire someone for any reason or no reason except in protected classes of which he is not. Finding bodies in their tanks probably would be enough, would it not?

 

[kiwilaura]

I hadn't thought of her sleeping on the couch since he buried her with the bedsheet. I would think he would want that phone and access to it. I think he hid it there. For what reason I don't know. But I do think he would have turned that house upside down to make sure he knew where that phone was.

And, assuming it wasn't on silent or off, he could have easily found it. You can also use Apple watch to make your phone "ping" so you can find it (even in silent mode). I do it several times a day haha. He could have easily done that off her wrist.

 

[Seattle1]

I think this was just something they had to do immediately, as a matter of public relations.

This was a high profile case, and not only was a company employee charged with five counts of murder, but the bodies were dumped on company property.

They had to get out ahead of this.

I remember the Patriots did the same thing, the day Aaron Hernandez was arrested for murder.

Absolutely. And we can't forget that Anadarko was already cooperating with LE before CW confessed and/or arrested. LE was able to tell him about the discovery by drone. The news did not come as a surprise to employer.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Do you think she put sheets on the couch? Sleeping on a leather couch with no sheets does not sound appealing to me.

Agree. Leather couches are not that comfortable along with the night sweats.

I no longer buy cars with leather seats neither. Jmo.

Too cold during the winter and too hot during the summer. Jmo.

 

[gitana1]

What's odd to me is that he told this tall tale after he knew that one the major reasons NUA called the police was that Shanann missed her doctor appointment. He knew it would come out that she had an appointment. I can't figure out his motive with the play date lie. Although I'm sure he had one. Why was he trying to paint a picture of not knowing about the appointment? Just an odd move on his end that stands out to me. jmo

I think just trying to forestall NUA. Like SW was super upset at their "emotional conversation" and decided to cancel her plans and meet with someone she wouldn't name.

That would give an excuse but not give an exact location for anyone to go look for her at. (Sorry for the grammar).

 

[gitana1]

They can be, yes - but they can also be used for pleas. I’ve just learned to listen to my intuition when something seems out of the ordinary - and this one does.

Could be a plea - could be something else - or could be nothing.

The good thing is, we don’t have to wait long to find out

I have never heard of one major murder/homicide case in the news in the US where a plea deal was made at a status conference before there was even an arraignment. Have you? If so, what?

 

[gitana1]

So he already pleaded Not Guilty with no bond Correct?

Or is his plead still in limbo?

He has not even entered a plea yet. There's only been an advisement. Not an arraignment.

 

[Johnny1181]

I think just trying to forestall NUA. Like SW was super upset at their "emotional conversation" and decided to cancel her plans and meet with someone she wouldn't name.

That would give an excuse but not give an exact location for anyone to go look for her at. (Sorry for the grammar).

Makes perfect sense. But IMO a dumb move on his part not to get ahead of the doctor appointment that he knew was coming out. One of countless dumb moves this heartless FA made. Ugh. It's just really, really horrific what he's done. Gotta say that "out loud" once in awhile. jmo

Edited to add: Strangulation is such a horrific personal way to die. Those babies struggled. Shannan struggled. They watched him kill them. He personally strangled the life out of them. He was capable of doing this 3 times! It's one of the worst cases I've ever seen. It's brutal. jmo

 

[gitana1]

I'm sorry for your loss, NuttMegg. (((Hugs)))

It is inconceivable that a father could stand before the cameras THREE TIMES on the day following the murders of his children and smile, let alone laugh. Nope, no way in h*ll.

MOO

Yes and people have mentioned that some are in shock or stoic at times of death. What doesn't compute with that is:

1. He showed no signs of being in shock.

2. He wasn't just stoic or emotionless. He showed the opposite. He smiled and giggled.

3. He LIED. Shock or handling grief stoically doesn't also include actively and glibly lying and covering up a crime.

 

[gitana1]

I hadn't thought of her sleeping on the couch since he buried her with the bedsheet. I would think he would want that phone and access to it. I think he hid it there. For what reason I don't know. But I do think he would have turned that house upside down to make sure he knew where that phone was.

I felt he hid it temporarily so that while he disposed of the bodies it wasn't visible from any window and any ring wouldn't be heard from outside. I don't know why he wouldn't just turn it off. Maybe he thoughtmessages going straight to voicemail would be too alarming to people.

 

[MyBelle]

Or so it seemed.

He's as dumbfounded as the rest of the world is, and he knew the guy! We witnessed with our own eyes CW acting normal, giving interviews about his 'missing' family. Showing off his shirt etc. Are we all delusional? Nope, CW knows how to 'act' normal under every circumstance, he's special that way, imo.

I saw the interviews and thought CW seemed nervous. I have never met the man so have no idea what was "normal" behavior for him. JMO

 

[MyBelle]

Re: Bond. Not only can I not imagine the judge granting it but his counsel has to be wise enough to know he's safer in jail than out on the street. He's not wealthy enough to afford 24/7 protection.

He's charged with first degree murder of SW and it isn't a bondable offense. I think his attorneys' priority is the filings they just made and bond request will come later. I agree, I think he's safer in jail. JMO