Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #5

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  • #781
Is there anything to indicate she was unfaithful? I feel really icky about some of the speculation, and if there are facts to support the ideas maybe I'll not feel as uncomfortable?
 
  • #782
He looked downright happy, it was really chilling. I sure could tell he hadn't shed any tears.

The thing that struck me during his court appearance , he appeared angry, seething beneath the surface....I doubt that he was pleased with the media coverage and the fact that he did not get to bond out , what did he expect after doing what he did???
 
  • #783
I read somewhere that a neighbor heard shouting that late evening ( early morning ) but never saw it verified. May just be rumor.
There has been mention of SW previous relationship, but nothing of note to my knowledge.
We don’t know the girls were strangled, it can only be inferred by DNA request.
 
  • #784
Is there anything to indicate she was unfaithful? I feel really icky about some of the speculation, and if there are facts to support the ideas maybe I'll not feel as uncomfortable?
Nothing to infer this imo.
 
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What chilled me to the bone was Nickole's statement:

"He wasn’t being as attentive to the girls as he normally is"

I asked myself why was C.W. "distancing" himself away from the girls?

Is this a sign that he had possibly been contemplating eradicating his family for three weeks?

I found that part specifically frightening.
That’s exactly what he was doing.
 
  • #787
Oh I had not seen that the neighbors heard shouting????



Maybe that is what it was but I am pretty sure I read the answer was no,,,and now the post above which I never saw that.
There is sooooo much stuff flying on these pages!

The noise coming from the house....yes that was reported earlier on before Chris was arrested. Some of us opined that he admitted they'd had an "an emotional discussion" in order to cover himself, in case neighbors heard (which they did)
 
  • #788
Hi - I am new here but have been fascinated to read all of your posts. Just wondering if anyone else had noticed this motion which requests that defence experts be present for various testing including “items of evidence, such as firearms, bullets, and shell casings, and biological sample testing”. This suggests to me that it may not have been strangulation as has been suggested so far. But perhaps, again, this is a standard request? Hoping that the press conference will shed a little more light on things

https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/19th_Judicial_District/caseofinterest/2018CR2003/001/(2) MOTION TO ALLOW CONFIDENTIAL DEFENSE EXPERTS TO BE PRESENT FOR SCIENTIFIC TESTING OF EVIDENCE.pdf

I think this is just a boilerplate request to cover any and all evidence. Nothing at all unusual about this
 
  • #789
If he was using those Thrive Patches, maybe the patches made him anxious, short-tempered, and stronger than usual. Maybe he lost his temper with the girls and was severe in his treatment over them. Maybe he badly, badly hurt one (2nd degree murder) and then killed the other little one and Shanann to make it look like foul play by someone else, of course (1st degree murder x 2) ala Jeffrey MacDonald. I wonder if the COD for one little girl might be different from the other. Just pondering here.
I don’t think the patches deliver much of anything, it the supplements shot be taken with the patches have stimulants in them.
 
  • #790
Is there anything to indicate she was unfaithful? I feel really icky about some of the speculation, and if there are facts to support the ideas maybe I'll not feel as uncomfortable?

No, there is nothing. It is purely speculation based on...I don't actually know, really.
 
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The thing that struck me during his court appearance , he appeared angry, seething beneath the surface....I doubt that he was pleased with the media coverage and the fact that he did not get to bond out , what did he expect after doing what he did???
He really looked like a totally different person.
 
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Is there anything to indicate she was unfaithful? I feel really icky about some of the speculation, and if there are facts to support the ideas maybe I'll not feel as uncomfortable?
Haven't heard a word about her being unfaithful.
 
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The thing that struck me during his court appearance , he appeared angry, seething beneath the surface....I doubt that he was pleased with the media coverage and the fact that he did not get to bond out , what did he expect after doing what he did???

He expected to get bail and be able to go home, you know because he's so special

He was ticked off that he didn't get bail. 'Cause it's ALL ABOUT HIM
 
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Awaiting news conference from Weldon County D. A. On #ChrisWatts charges 6pmEST

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  • #795
What chilled me to the bone was Nickole's statement:

"He wasn’t being as attentive to the girls as he normally is"

I asked myself why was C.W. "distancing" himself away from the girls?

Is this a sign that he had possibly been contemplating eradicating his family for three weeks?

I found that part specifically frightening.
Or it could be he was distancing himself because he knew they were going to split up and there wouldn't be a family anymore.
 
  • #796
Is there anything to indicate she was unfaithful? I feel really icky about some of the speculation, and if there are facts to support the ideas maybe I'll not feel as uncomfortable?

My posts and those I've read are saying that he might have thought SW was cheating. Not that she was. Just speculating as to motive here.
 
  • #797
By all accounts she loved the man, which makes it all the more heartbreaking. :(
Is there anything to indicate she was unfaithful? I feel really icky about some of the speculation, and if there are facts to support the ideas maybe I'll not feel as uncomfortable?
 
  • #798
The thing that struck me during his court appearance , he appeared angry, seething beneath the surface....I doubt that he was pleased with the media coverage and the fact that he did not get to bond out , what did he expect after doing what he did???
I think he originally expected he could stage it as a disappearance , but SW's friend showing up derailed that plan. He went from that happy place of thinking he was free (ugh) to the realization that he's been caught, and it really ticks him off. boo hoo and moo
 
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A reporter had asked LE if the Watts had any previous contact with police, and they would not confirm or deny-I saw it here as a tweet from a reporter, didn't save the link though.
I heard one major news source stating that neither had previous criminal history. I will try to find link.
 
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#BREAKING: we now know the charges Chris Watts has been formally charged with. They include: 3 counts of first degree murder after deliberation, 2 counts of first degree murder of a person under 12 by person in a position of trust, 3 counts of tampering with a deceased body (1/2)

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