GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #57

[Bravo]

As far as the conversation "about sex" goes it wasn't so much what she said. It was how she said it. Rather crude and immature. For me. IMO. Carry on.....

 

[NuttMegg]

"Chris said no way cause, like, I didn't just throw them in, in my truck"

 

[katikaboom]

More on him not wanting the baby anymore.
Him and NK acting close at work

5 months before the murder, roughly the same time SW asked about custody when getting a divorce.
there was at least an emotional affair. i bet he was acting weird for longer than the visit in NC. even the not keeping his hands off SW fits-typically people having emotional affairs have a higher sex drive with their current partners until the physical affair starts, then suddenly that sex drive comes to a screeching halt.

also, if he was having one that far back and it was affecting his marriage 5 months before the murders, than i do not believe a single word NK says. do i think she caused this? no. but i don't think she was clueless at all.

 

[kiwilaura]

The FBI interview was absolutely fascinating. I am looking forward to hearing it as it was hard to read.

 

[Johnny1181]

"Chris said no way cause, like, I didn't just throw them in, in my truck"

Yeah... no way he did that. Wow. He really disgusts me. I think he actually thought for a few minutes he was outsmarting everyone during this interrogation. They did such an amazing job nailing this monster.

 

[MassGuy]

"Chris said no way cause, like, I didn't just throw them in, in my truck"

Lol. Also on that page, the investigator commented on his lack of tears over the past two days, “at that point, Chris appeared to force a sniffle.”

What a transparent jackass.

 

[pocketaccent]

"Chris said no way cause, like, I didn't just throw them in, in my truck"

Big slip-up.

Instead of saying they didn't leave in his truck (alive like the interrogator meant in his question), he says he didn't just throw them in (dead). Jeez. Because he did. Just threw them in.

 

[escape2sc]

But let's look at an Audi Q7.



NICHOL said she ended the phone conversation with CHRIS and he later “facetimed” her that evening (August 12, 2018). She said on the video call CHRIS was wearing a black “wife beater” t-shirt and he was laying on a mattress with no sheets on it.

NICHOL did not know what bed CHRIS was on but said it did not look like his makeshift basement bedroom. NICHOL said the mattress CHRIS was laying on could have been blue in color.

I wonder why LE never stated which mattress was the blue one. If it belonged to one of the girls that would indicate he killed the girls before SW arrived home. The makeup smeared on the pillow case from the master bedroom indicates SW did lay down in her bed so the sheets would of been on her bed. ??

 

[MassGuy]

Big slip-up.

Instead of saying they didn't leave in his truck (alive like the interrogator meant in his question), he says he didn't just throw them in (dead). Jeez. Because he did. Just threw them in.

Great catch. Yup, just tossed them right in there, like objects.

Like trash.

 

[NuttMegg]

I hope no one else has posted this, although I know MassGuy and others have alluded to it, talk about a chill up and down my spine "Chris decides to talk to Dad" (my made up title)

 

[liltexans]

Great catch. Yup, just tossed them right in there, like objects.

Like trash.

They were objects to him. I believe all people are objects to CW. He doesn't have a conscience, IMO. Once they were thrown away, he wanted to forget they ever existed, eat pizza, and watch some football. It didn't dawn on his dim brain that people actually loved those objects he killed and dumped. It didn't occur to him that people would actually look for the missing objects he had discarded. On to the next object he could use and discard when he was done.

 

[tmar]

Yeah. Something like 3 terabytes of data.

If you thought 2000 pages was time consuming to go through, imagine watching something like 1500 hours of video!

Hope some folk here, can break it up into smaller chunks, for others. PLEASE.
I would love to see/hear this but my laptop perhaps would not download a large hunk.

 

[ACE422]

I remember reading something about that too. Something like close to $100,000 maybe? Can't remember. Wish I know which section that was in.

When reading though, I remember thinking why such enormous medical expenses when CW had a great medical insurance coverage from work. Don't medical insurance come with catastrophic benefits? I know mine does. After $5,000 out-of- pocket expenses (for all family), my insurance covers 100%.

I also remember something where SW worked at a Children's Hospital to get a "discount."

 

[tmar]

I am most interested in watching CW's Interrogation video. Given all we know now IMO they will be most interesting.

I want to see CW's face, squirming when he is stumbling through his answers.
I'll replay this continually: the look on this Creep's face at the end.
Just wonderful.

 

[pocketaccent]

They were objects to him. I believe all people are objects to CW. He doesn't have a conscience, IMO. Once they were thrown away, he wanted to forget they ever existed, eat pizza, and watch some football. It didn't dawn on his dim brain that people actually loved those objects he killed and dumped. It didn't occur to him that people would actually look for the missing objects he had discarded. On to the next object he could use and discard when he was done.

Love this post!!

And those objects were alive human beings so many people loved and adored.

 

[MassGuy]

I hope no one else has posted this, although I know MassGuy and others have alluded to it, talk about a chill up and down my spine "Chris decides to talk to Dad" (my made up title)

Yup. “I asked Chris what Shanann did to the the girls and he immediately asked if he could talk to his dad.”

I made the point that the investigators gave him the “blaming Shanann” scenario as an “out,” but I didn’t use this example.

This is a better one.

 

[liltexans]

Love this post!!

And those objects were alive human beings so many people loved and adored.

Yes, they were very loved people. Unlike CW, who is only loved by his family of origin. No one else truly cares about his existence.

 

[Bravo]

So tough to read Shannon's heartbreak in trying to figure out what was going on with Chris and their marriage. I have no doubt that CW enjoyed every minute of the torture he was putting her thru. IMO CW killed the girls prior to Shannon arriving home. I am also of the opine he made Shannon very aware the girls were dead. Not a reach to think a Sociopath with festering hatred wouldn't want to share the ultimate, final and devastating blow.

 

[MassGuy]

Hope some folk here, can break it up into smaller chunks, for others. PLEASE.
I would love to see/hear this but my laptop perhaps would not download a large hunk.

@PommyMommy has assured me that she will be able to go through all 3 terabytes of data within a few hours and simplify it for us.

No one else could do that, especially when we are talking about many hundreds of hours of video to watch.

She’s that good.

 

[Inthedetails]

They were objects to him. I believe all people are objects to CW. He doesn't have a conscience, IMO. Once they were thrown away, he wanted to forget they ever existed, eat pizza, and watch some football. It didn't dawn on his dim brain that people actually loved those objects he killed and dumped. It didn't occur to him that people would actually look for the missing objects he had discarded. On to the next object he could use and discard when he was done.

I agree - and I think he sees the world from his point of view only. If he can get away with murder, then that will be the easiest solution to his problem, without considering that people would notice that everything he said about SW leaving with the kids was not true to her character. He didn't consider people would notice that SW wasn't answering her texts and not showing up for doctor appointment (he was so checked out that he didn't know about the doc appt). He didn't consider that his wife not only noticed the problems in the marriage but shared them with others, and that other people noticed and were concerned for her. He didn't think that people would notice he pulled Bella out of school (after he killed her) or that he kept in contact with NK. I really think he thought he could do "whatever" and get away with it for the sole reason that he wanted it that way, barely even covering his tracks.

He just saw it all from his own point of view.

jmo