GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #61

[PrimeSuspect]

He has been punished by a court of law, she is being punished by the court of public opinion.
It will be hard for her for a while, but she will live her life and maybe one day will have the things that she was so desperate to take from Shanann.

well said, Jennifer. NK will most likely, go on to marry and have her own family, and she will guard and protect them because she knows from personal experience what dangers are out there. jmo

 

[Davia18]

The more I learn, the more I read, the more I watch.
Did CW really kill his entire family for a few months of a intense experimental sexual escapade?
Was it NK was willing to experiment in areas that SW wasn't?

 

[kaykay543]

The more I learn, the more I read, the more I watch.
Did CW really kill his entire family for a few months of a intense experimental sexual escapade?
Was it NK was willing to experiment in areas that SW wasn't?

IMO he wanted to start anew with his mistress. And start that new life debt free. He did have life insurance policies that he would have received payout on. And the sale of the house etc. No more medical bills. No child support. I just think he wanted out of all of it.

 

[Tortoise]

Ahhhh, finally managed to sync the interrogation video and audio by opening 2 Youtube videos and muting one and moving forward about 10 seconds. Yes. I'm a bit OCD but it was driving me NUTS.

Brilliant!!!

 

[tmar]

I agree, while I also agree that she is not guilty of murder, she still knew he was married and what she was doing was wrong. She is still alive and in a few years , a few months even, she will be forgotten. I just hope this has been a big lesson for her and she stays away from married men in the future.

I would think, from NK's searches of Amber Frey's book deal, suggesting to pawn the ring, wondering about CW's 401 plan , not contributing to outings with CW, NK is all about money.
MOO. NK will use this experience, to obtain money: interviews, follow ups, book deals. She oozes confidence, even with LE. !!!!
Often people don't change their spots, even after bad experiences.
MOO.

 

[Allabouttrial]

If you scroll down there are police body cam videos..

New videos, documents released by prosecutors in Watts case

Thank you! Poor Dieter that was so sad. Doesn't know what the heck is going on

 

[Gardener1850]

Did I read somewhere that NK had did an online search for SW back in September 2017 ? Or did I imagine this?
If so then NK saw a happy couple IMO

Yep, she sure did. See my post here on the August posts made by Shanann that NK could have seen on Sept 1st, 2017: GUILTY - CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #60

I do not have social media and I found these posts, so NK could have as well. Who knows what she would have seen on CW's social media as well-- since he deleted it we have no idea.
(Although I also believe she did have social media in 2017 since she said "I have not have any social media since 2018" ).

 

[Tortoise]

After listening to the NK Show I have a better understanding of her comment (Denver Post?) that CW was a good listener. That would be an essential quality for any man to survive the first date. IMO.

 

[Allabouttrial]

Ahhhh, finally managed to sync the interrogation video and audio by opening 2 Youtube videos and muting one and moving forward about 10 seconds. Yes. I'm a bit OCD but it was driving me NUTS.

I downloaded it to edit but gave up as it wasn't continually of sync. It was driving me crazy as well. Couldn't see realtime reactions.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

My thoughts are with SW’s family and friends.

The sadness and heartache that comes from following this case can be overwhelming at times. I think we all might need a debriefing of sorts after this case.

 

[Allabouttrial]

My thoughts are with SW’s family and friends. View attachment 157861

The sadness and heartache that comes from following this case can be overwhelming at times. I think we all might need a debriefing of sorts after this case.

And then some. Got a therapist on stand-by.

 

[LAHOLLA]

Finally catching up!

My thoughts on NK: she told LE she hadn’t told anyone about the affair. Her text convo with her friend, Charlotte, was on the 12th. The day before the murders. Interesting lie/coincidence...

I don’t think she knew he would kill his family. I really don’t. I do wonder if she was being truthful in her assertion that she told him she didn’t want to meet the kids anytime soon, she didn’t want to talk to him when he had the kids, etc. If so, I feel like that contributed to his need to be untethered. To be clear, that isn’t her fault, just might be a window into where his mind was.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Oddly his mother says he has a very high IQ. 180?? Then again it could be a lie

Did she say an IQ of 180! Over 125 is gifted and above 140 is considered a genius, so what the ??!! I haven't read or heard mama Watts say this.

 

[MassGuy]

Just so everyone knows, we weren’t supposed to be able to access those files yesterday.

That link was for media outlets that filed a request. Some of those outlets released the link, which is why the website crashed. Way too many people were trying to download those files.

We’ll likely have to wait until this information is released by those news outlets that have requested it.

Y’all are nosy!

 

[margarita25]

Thank you! Poor Dieter that was so sad. Doesn't know what the heck is going on

( )

 

[MassGuy]

Did she say an IQ of 180! Over 125 is gifted and above 140 is considered a genius, so what the ??!! I haven't read or heard mama Watts say this.

If she did, and I haven’t seen it either, she must have added an extra 100 to that IQ number.

CW ain’t no genius.

 

[LAHOLLA]

Re: CW. What about NK’s version of events re: nutgate? That his family just refused to take his calls, left a note on the door when he was in town, etc.? I don’t believe I’ve heard that before. Did that really happen?! Did he lie to NK?? My gosh. This family is a disaster.

 

[PommyMommy]

Just so everyone knows, we weren’t supposed to be able to access those files yesterday.

That link was for media outlets that filed a request. Some of those outlets released the link, which is why the website crashed. Way too many people were trying to download those files.

We’ll likely have to wait until this information is released by those news outlets that have requested it.

Just wanted to make sure you saw this article (Don't know if you're one of those people who read backwards in the threads ):
New videos, documents released by prosecutors in Watts case

The newly released video also contains body camera footage of police searching the Watts home. The only one they find inside is the family dog.

Scroll down for the following:

• Investigators search through Watts home
• More video released in search of Watts home
• Investigators test baby monitor in Watts investigation

 

[LAHOLLA]

Oh! I also wonder if NK has a history of being a private/guarded person or if her secrecy re: this affair is just further proof that she was well aware he was still actively married, not separated?

 

[Thinker Belle]

I don’t believe for a second that NK actually tried to persuade CW to work on his marriage. If she truly wanted to do that, all she would have had to do was remove herself from the situation! She didn’t. In fact, she was actively planning their future together. Taking the initiative to “help” him find his own apartment, googling things like weddings dresses and “marrying your mistress”, giving him advice on parenting the girls while divorced.

If she did in fact do any persuading it was likely more along the lines of giving him an ultimatum than anything else. He either needed to finalize the divorce with SW and move out of that house or she (NK) would be out of his life for good.

I do find it incredibly ironic that she spends the majority of her interview trying to paint herself as either a victim or a hero (depending on context). If I were in her situation, the very last thing I’d be worried about was how I got duped by my boyfriend and having a pity party over that. I would be devestated beyond belief that this family was so heinously murdered and would feel guilt beyond words that I may have somehow contributed to that in anyway. I would be doing any and everything to cooperate with LE to find the answers needed and put this monster where he belongs so he could never destroy another life again.

But she obviously wasn’t devestated. She seemed largely unshocked and callous throughout most of the interview. It was like it was a total game to her, even going so far as to try and take control of the interrogation herself. She repeatedly elevates herself and makes herself out to be the hero in the whole situation. Even in death, the woman is trying to compete with Shannan.

I’m sorry but I just can’t muster up an ounce of sympathy for NK.