GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #62

[Jennifer17]

That makes sense. Thank you. So many questions in this case.

There are so many questions because there are so many liars, including his batty family.

 

[skyedaze]

Regarding 8/11 - Perhaps that was the first time she knew of Ronnie's name? They went to the Lazy Dog that night. Someone suggested that she might have looked up the address to see if the home had been put on the market yet. MOO

or to see how much it was worth...ya know since she was all involved in his finances and where he would live, etc...
so not an angel

 

[riolove77]

I haven't quite caught up yet, on this thread or the release of the audio/video, but I just want to make a very general point:

***DAs are NOT in the business of shaming or embarrassing or getting revenge!!!!!***

Carry on.

 

[PommyMommy]

PommyMommy said: ↑
Here's what I have as far as NK's searches for the names "Chris Watts" or "Shanann Watts." (IOW, not a complete list of NK's internet/google searches.)

Unless otherwise noted, the information comes from the Phone Data Review beginning on pg 1887 (Discovery pg 2082)

8/3/2017 – searched items “chris watts” Pg 1601 (Discovery pg 1783)

9/1/2017 - searched the internet for the name "Shanann Watts"

1/7/2018 – searched items “shanann watts” Pg 1601 (Discovery pg 1783)

8/4/2018 - Google search for Chris and Shanann's Facebook accounts

8/11/2018 - having concluded her evening tryst with Watts, Kessinger searched the internet on topics like "Chris Watts" - "Shanann Watts" - "Ronnie Watts" and "2825 Saratoga Trail"

8/14/2018 - searched Google for Shanann Watts

8/14/2018 - spent nearly four hours searching Google and the internet for Watts, news outlets and news accounts of Shanann's disappearance

8/14/2018 - searched the internet for news accounts of this incident and Shanann's name (these searches were conducted frequently by Kessinger throughout the next several days. She deleted every one afterwards)

Um...are those dates right? She searched on both CW and SW a year earlier??? And then she just happens to work where he does? And then later she googles their home address? Really????
Hmmmm......(serious side eye.....)

Yes, please see the page numbers referenced.

 

[MassGuy]

I haven't quite caught up yet, on this thread or the release of the audio/video, but I just want to make a very general point:

***DAs are NOT in the business of shaming or embarrassing or getting revenge!!!!!***

Carry on.

Especially this one, who appears to be as solid as they come.

All business.

 

[Loveallmyhorsesdogsandcats]

CW denied any affair initially.
LE stated they knew of NK, by name.
Then CW agreed he did have this affair with NK, but not to use her name.

I am pretty sure CW volunteered he had an affair. The detective responded with we never asked you about that because we already knew about Nikki and see you are a good guy for telling us about the affair. Disclaimer, I need to go look at it again

 

[Deleted member 229974]

A lot of women do wear a bra to sleep in. If a woman is large-breasted, it helps keep them from getting in the way when she changes position in bed. Like keep them from getting up under your arm or your side. Being pregnant, her breasts might have been larger and she might wear a bra to support them.

Yes, I agree, but she was only 4 months pregnant and the bra appeared to be a sexy black, lacy bra.

 

[Layla123]

Did you forget when we provided evidence to you that this statement was a "summary" of several investigative reports. The details do not lie. At best, NK and Anadarko were providing evidence on the same day. IMO, these posts are insulting to all the poured over the evidence and shared the facts.

Yes, but you can no longer say that NK did not contact LE, and many still do, and you can no longer say Anadarko contacted LE first because we don’t know, but many still do. Don’t understand why you are insulted. This isn’t personal.

 

[MCDRAW]

Deep down she probably does feel guilty and that's why she is so defensive. Yet she may never admit it, not even to herself. Imo

I agree. She does know deep down. She may never admit it but late at night when she can't sleep, because she is worrying about what is happening to her baby, she knows. I want to feel bad for that family but I can't. I do find it odd that in that family of 4, there wasn't one voice of reason. If I was the son-in-law, I would be worried.

 

[tmar]

Bwahahaaaaa! I can't like this comment enough!

I know of someone who died, due to a chicken bone, stuck in their throat.
Perhaps these could be aimed at CW's mouth, and when opened, there could be a drama.
There won't be too many people, coming quickly to the rescue.
MOO.

 

[Mercedes]

Could you imagine the reaction from the waiter/waitress when he pulled out multiple gift cards to pay for his meal!

“No tip for me.”

I hope they saw him coming and gave him a gourmet “sneezeburger.”

You can leave a tip on a gift card.

 

[Charlot123]

Cooperation is required in a police or FBI investigation. It's not an option.

Yes, and this is exactly what I would do. But my post was more along the lines - why dump information about NK's friends who are not in any way implicated in the murder?

 

[MassGuy]

I agree. She does know deep down. She may never admit it but late at night when she can't sleep, because she is worrying about what is happening to her baby, she knows. I want to feel bad for that family but I can't. I do find it odd that in that family of 4, there wasn't one voice of reason. If I was the son-in-law, I would be worried.

Hell, if I was anywhere on the periphery of their circle I would be worried.

Devious people.

 

[k-mac]

CW’s beautiful wife did a “ deep clean” of his lovely house and did all the running around and packing for the family before she left to visit her family.she even organised meals for him for 5 weeks which would have taken so long to do and made sure the groceries were even booked.

CW could have spent the time apart on doing up a nursery for his well wanted first baby boy( how exciting ) getting ready for the gender reveal party and working extra shifts to bring in more money as he had more time on his hands...

So many things to look forward to !

defies comprehension doesn't it
had everything most men could only dream for.

my hubby would have looooved a shannann!!! so driven, so selfless, an incredible human being who put her own problems aside to make sure everyone she loved needs where met.
makes me so angry that he could abolish her to imo 'downgrade '(sorry not sorry)

 

[MassGuy]

You can leave a tip on a gift card.

True. But it’s tough to leave much of a tip when those cards barely cover the bill.

Good thing CW has seen Home Alone 2. Like Kevin Mccalister, he tips in sticks of gum.

Juicy Fruit, if I’m not mistaken.

Classy

 

[Herat]

I think she was trying to save face, and wanted to portray herself in the best light possible.

The less she knew, the better she looked.

She would be far more sympathetic a character if she was completely misled by this guy, and didn’t knowingly play a role in breaking up a marriage.

Especially a marriage that didn’t just break up, but exploded in horrific violence.

Her strategy backfired. Obviously.

And once again - It WASN'T about HER.

It was about 4 vulnerable people missing under very strange circumstances.

The more I ponder this the more I am convinced she knew CW was involved

And likely she at least suspected more

 

[skyedaze]

Yes, please see the page numbers referenced.

wow, well then she is a predator. So calculating.

 

[Mercedes]

He may have thought he would start a fire and grabbed gas tanks but when he got their he forgot SW wouldn’t fit. No other explaination as to why he had gas cans, unless maybe he was going to just keep driving and wanted Extra gas?

Perhaps he thought he should mow his lawn.

 

[Irmese]

This is why her actions -scrubbing her electronics - are under scrunity, she tells indisputable lies, why ? Why is she lying about knowing her name and so many other things. I absolutely understand Rourke saying she was somewhat forth coming. Lies are going to erase your credibility.

Yes, and the spelling of Shanann's name is pretty unique. Maybe she found it when she Googled CW, but I doubt she figured it out on her own.

 

[MassGuy]

And once again - It WASN'T about HER.

It was about 4 vulnerable people missing under very strange circumstances.

The more I ponder this the more I am convinced she knew CW was involved

And likely she at least suspected more

Exactly. That’s where the criticism lies.

I understand what she was doing, but when you’re talking about horrific murders, her actions are inexcusable.