GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #63

[Charlot123]

I'm not a verified anything here, but I worked as an RN in an ENT clinic with a MD who specialized in voice for several years. The speech therapist that I worked with and I had many conversations about vocal fry LONG before it became popular to point it out in pop culture. It can be very annoying. I agree that we don't need to police people's voices, but when it is something that is affected, rather than caused by a condition of the vocal cords people notice it (eta: professionally - I'm not talking about pop culture here).

I suggest reading this article written by a speech pathology professional organization which writes about the condition/affected speech with a less biased viewpoint.
Totally Fried

Being a foreigner, I simply thought she had an unpleasant tone of voice, but also that maybe it was a part of a local dialect? Both she and the detective show some nazalization of the sounds.

Interestingly, the person who I definitely remember having something similar to vocal fry was from another country. Catherine Millet, the Frenchwoman, author of a very provoking book. (You can Google her, she is in Wikipedia). What is interesting is that a) it is another language, and Ms. Millet, a 70-year old editor of Art-Press, is not a Kardashian fan. B) I looked at several of her interviews to understand what it takes to produce such a bold book and I noticed she has very poor eye contact, but speaks very well, except for this tone, the vocal fry, and C) it is a totally different language so the vocal fry is not solely about culture, or language per se.

 

[gitana1]

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Dreadful. That's the rest of his life. Zero control over himself. Just following orders and housed like a lab rat. Was it worth it, chief?

 

[KarenUK]

The RadarOnline page doesn't sem work in the UK, does anyone have a link for outside the USA?
Apologies if this has already been posted.

 

[gitana1]

Do we think this is legit? CW says about three times he made a protein shake that morning. And yes, I know he is a huge liar. But - if he's grilling chicken and making protein shakes and "pounding fruit" and a jar of asparagus at the Sunday birthday party, I feel like a high fat, greasy *convenience store* burrito doesn't exactly fit in with his macros.

ETA: Could this be footage that someone turned over because it resembled CW, but wasn't actually confirmed to be him? You would think we would have read about his truck's GPS tracking catching a stop here. And how would he even have time to stop with that timeline?

Neither does several slices of greasy pizza. But things change I guess when you murder your entire family.

 

[zea mays]

Both of the ex-MRS podcast groups are now reporting to have the discovery items. It will be a race to see who posts the better content first. I just truly hope the use prudential judgement and don't release anything graphic (if indeed that release includes graphic content).

 

[Charlot123]

Neither does several slices of greasy pizza. But things change I guess when you murder your entire family.

I believe the person holds his upper torso like CW (very rigid), but not sure it is the same person

 

[violet101]

Killer Chris Watts Watched Neighbor's Surveillance Video The Day Before His Arrest

Here’s the bodycam video of when they were looking at the neighbors camera

 

[cakegirl0905]

I don’t think that’s him. It doesn’t even really look like him. The facial hair is too long. CW was pretty manscaped, this guy isn’t. And he’s thinner too. CW had larger muscles at that point.

 

[Marli61]

I believe the person holds his upper torso like CW (very rigid), but not sure it is the same person

When I first watched I never doubted it was him, although the orange tee shirt made me pause. Now that I go back & look .... not completely sure it's him. As for his diet, I think that probably went out the window starting about Monday morning.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

DH, DD and I use iPhones. We are in a family sharing arrangement and you can see our locations in "find my iPhone" app but not attached to individual texts/iMessages. The only place I've seen the location attached to messages is in FB messenger, but I don't think any FB messages are included in the discovery. It sounds to me like they primarily texted/iMessaged

I think the text messages that LE recovered were the texts sent using iMessaging. The texts sent via iMessaging were most likely stored in iCloud when their phones were backed up. Even though they appear to be deleted they were still in the cloud.
jmo

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

The more I learn about NK the more skeptical I am.
Her every word contrast against every action she took.
I really must question why exactly she scrubbed her devices.
It would be foolhardy to take her word for it.

 

[molly1255]

Great point about his healthy diet and this burrito.

He reminded me of a carnivorous animal when he ate that pizza in the interview.

 

[scdiv]

Killer Chris Watts Watched Neighbor's Surveillance Video The Day Before His Arrest

Here’s the bodycam video of when they were looking at the neighbors camera

Wow! That neighbor picked up on him immediately. CW didn't even give it the old college try to look at the videos and try to see if any cars had driven by or footage of SW "leaving." All he did was ramble multiple times why he was loading up his truck. And look so, so guilty.

 

[cakegirl0905]

I’m slowly listening to the NK interview. The part where she cries about the girls, it’s so very odd. Her tone of voice goes suuuper high when she talks about how little they were, it’s exactly the same tone she used in the beginning about CW being sooo cute by being a dad. It set off all kinds of red flags. The crying was mostly high pitched fake moans, to which the DA was unmoved and asked her if she wanted to step out. And she says no and pretty much continues going on about herself - this is so hard on me what’s going to happen to me I won't be able to go into public the public won’t understand that this happened to me oh woe is me what will happen to me. Vomit.

And then she “can’t remember “ the day of the murders which was only couple of days before. Uh huh. Sure, Jan.

It is so contrived. She is so cold about Shannan. She is literally forced by the DA to say her name, and does so with so much distaste. The rest of the time she says “his wife”. She blames everything on Shannan - she took all of CWs money, ignored him, only cared about her phone, kept him from his parents, didn’t tell him about Nutgate. For Shannans job NK says something like “I don’t even know what you’d call that.” And that her house was too nice and had too many nice things in it and she couldn’t have afforded that how, she was obviously living abover her means. NK hated Shannan, even as she was dead in a morgue somewhere. No concern for her, just cold dislike. It’s horrible.

The whole thing is so off, it really seems like NK may have sociopathic tendencies herself.

 

[BrownRice]

Neither does several slices of greasy pizza. But things change I guess when you murder your entire family.

Good point. Forgot that too.

 

[violet101]

Wow! That neighbor picked up on him immediately. CW didn't even give it the old college try to look at the videos and try to see if any cars had driven by or footage of SW "leaving." All he did was ramble multiple times why he was loading up his truck. And look so, so guilty.

Agree! He was crapping his pants the whole time! In addition to NUA this neighbor was truely a hero too. He picked up on all that and was honest with the cops.

 

[KathrynL]

Wow! That neighbor picked up on him immediately. CW didn't even give it the old college try to look at the videos and try to see if any cars had driven by or footage of SW "leaving." All he did was ramble multiple times why he was loading up his truck. And look so, so guilty.

Like a cat on a hot tin roof. Easy to see why LE immediately honed in on him.

 

[opalonyx]

Killer Chris Watts Watched Neighbor's Surveillance Video The Day Before His Arrest

Here’s the bodycam video of when they were looking at the neighbors camera

Wow. That is very damning.
The neighbor saying "he's not acting right" and he mimics the nervous swaying. Then he says he overheard them fighting and that CW "gets crazy" and yells "at the top of his lungs". He says he thought SW went on vacation with the kids because of the fighting.

Poor Shanann. She didn't deserve all this, especially while pregnant. And no wonder the girls were distant with him in NC. The last time they saw him, he was probably screaming at SW. Of course they would be afraid of him. Definitely shows how things built up to him doing this, in addition to his affair with NK.

 

[Check21]

Agree! He was crapping his pants the whole time! In addition to NUA this neighbor was truely a hero too. He picked up on all that and was honest with the cops.

Yes. I thought CW looked like he was either going to crap his pants or puke. Did you see the way the neighbor was eyeing him?

 

[BrownRice]

Wow. That is very damning.
The neighbor saying "he's not acting right" and he mimics the nervous swaying. Then he says he overheard them fighting and that CW "gets crazy" and yells "at the top of his lungs". He says he thought SW went on vacation with the kids because of the fighting.

Poor Shanann. She didn't deserve all this, especially while pregnant. And no wonder the girls were distant with him in NC. The last time they saw him, he was probably screaming at SW. Of course they would be afraid of him. Definitely shows how things built up to him doing this, in addition to his affair with NK.

And funny how he told LE that they never argued or raised voices at each other.