GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #64

[Tippy Lynn]

I do not see on Allenwood's website where it says they are on lockdown?

A big red banner at the top.
USP Allenwood

ETA: Not on lockdown - visiting hours are suspending until further notice.

 

[MsBetsy]

I think I read on here someone posted that NK was hired by two different agencies so she worked at Anadarko for the first agency then when she was hired by the second agency, she worked for Anadarko a second time. I’m not sure of the dates that she first started working there with the first agency though.

That would explain it but I wish we knew the date that she started. I wouldn't know where to look.

 

[bonjoviblonde]

I do not see on Allenwood's website where it says they are on lockdown?

I see the message at the top when you click on the Allenwood prisons in the link Tippy posted.

 

[human]

Why would he go to a federal prison?

 

[SausagePizza]

Based on what I have read Allenwood Medium and High have been on lockdown since before 11-21-2018, 01:54 PM???

 

[Tippy Lynn]

I do not see on Allenwood's website where it says they are on lockdown?

A big red banner at the top.
USP Allenwood

ETA: Not on lockdown - visiting hours are suspending until further notice.

I see the message at the top when you click on the Allenwood prisons in the link Tippy posted.

I updated my post. Not on lockdown, but visiting hours are suspending until further notice.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Why would he go to a federal prison?

I guess for security/protective reasons.
jmo

 

[opalonyx]

Has the cadaver dog bodycam been posted yet? There's been so many videos floating around I can hardly keep track. It's from a random YouTube account but Chris is clearly seen in the video as well as the house so its legit.

The dog barks immediately by Bella's bed (sounds very distressed ), and follows with Celeste's bed and then SW's. Chris seemed to have tried to prepare for the dogs as he has the fans going at full blast to try and throw them off. It seems pretty obvious they were asleep when he attacked them.

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[MsBetsy]

I think this is (probably) a stretch that she got the job because of an already existing obsession on Chris. It seems like there's a lot of industry there around oil fields, and that's what she's trained in with a father who works in that field as well?

I know she said she had worked on the oil rig, and didn't want to go back to that, but I don't know if thats where she was before she started at Anadarko.

 

[human]

I guess for security/protective reasons.
jmo

It does not have to be a federal crime?

 

[scdiv]

There is a video on youtube called "Chris Watts Very First Lie, Look How Nervous..." I haven't yet found it on MSM in order to link.... @PommyMommy no doubt already has it.

The idiot CW tells the police officer that he was about to take a walk around the neighborhood to "clear his head." NOT TO LOOK FOR HIS FAMILY or ask neighbors if they saw his family or pass out flyers. But you know, just to clear his head. (And it looks like he is shaking a protein shake.)

He looks so, so guilty. I'm so glad this came crashing down on him so quickly. He sooo did not expect this immediate reaction and search. He must have been freaking out so bad as this all unfolded so fast. He looked guilty in the porch interviews and rocking back and forth, but kind of held it together even though his body language was giving him away.

But these scenes the police body cam captured - whoa. He was so rattled. And not in a "worried" husband/dad way. In a very obvious I am so f'ed way.

 

[Tranquileyes]

Yeah... but he had been swapping shirts all along it seems. He had plenty of time to change IMO.

He definitely changed but both times I saw were long sleeved shirts.. In the morning video and the body cam videos in the afternoon

 

[MassGuy]

If he wants to see her. It seems that he is more than capable of putting people out of his life and not looking back.

This guy killed his entire family, but his mommy is so “mean” that he won’t talk to her.

I don’t know what’s funnier, his cowardice or the irony.

 

[PommyMommy]

Ha of course you did @PommyMommy! You're the best!

It's definitely a sensationalized, if not misleading, segment. I think the girl may be legit or at least thinks that who it was. I have a friend who engages in similar behavior no matter how much anyone tries to talk sense into her. She is totally addicted to tinder and finding these loser guys, meeting up with them that day, meeting her for the first time at her apartment, having sex with them. It's basically free prostitution - except she's delusional enough to think that she's "dating" them. It's really scary and insane, but she doesn't listen to any reason or reality. When I saw that girl, that's what it reminded me of, and I wouldn't have given it any credibility, other than being aware that this whole sketchy side of these dating apps really goes on. Most people just have a brain, common sense, and ability to see red flags not to engage in the worst of it. But some of these girls really do.

That said, even if true, I don't think this chic was ever in any danger. CW wasn't a psychopath killer in that sense - he wanted his family gone and his problems gone. He wasn't out to kill random people.

They also showed "CW" at the gas station buying breakfast burrito and had this Tinder girl watch the clip to comment on how he was reacting. I still don't think it's even him. I think irresponsible media saw the video in the case files release and just went with airing it. There is nothing that I've seen written confirming that LE thinks that was CW. It likely was video just turned over to LE based on a resemblance and for them to conclude if it was relevant to the case.

That's not me, lol!

I feel badly for this woman (Tinder hookup) too. Whether it was actually CW who she met up with or not, it sounds like she had a horrible experience. I also don't think that was him in the store. MOO

 

[Starkville]

I've seen it coming in throughout the threads, and I wanted to tag along here.

Amazing responses from family, friends, neighbors, acquaintances, law enforcement, and even NK immediately and in the days after Shan'ann and the girls disappeared made the difference between justice in this case and either a lengthy trial and/or unsolved missing persons' cases.

The neighbor taking the police aside after reviewing the driveway surveillance? He didn't wait or hold back, he needed LE to know right away. Shan'ann's mom, on the phone with police while CW was standing next to them in the kitchen pressing them to look into him. Obviously Nicole Utoft contacting LE so quickly and pressing CW into action, then noting his incongruent reactions. More of Shan'ann's friends contacting LE and sharing texts. The Thayers coming forward to report their concerns.

Frederick Colorado is a town under 9k in population. People really came together and made this happen, I think in tremendous reflection of the kind of (and kind) person Shan'ann was and how she touched other people's lives in a positive way.

Also, Primrose called police after a few phone calls. Not sure how soon after the news, but it was in the discovery. Everyone knew something was amiss.

 

[MsBetsy]

There is a video on youtube called "Chris Watts Very First Lie, Look How Nervous..." I haven't yet found it on MSM in order to link.... @PommyMommy no doubt already has it.

The idiot CW tells the police officer that he was about to take a walk around the neighborhood to "clear his head." NOT TO LOOK FOR HIS FAMILY or ask neighbors if they saw his family or pass out flyers. But you know, just to clear his head. (And it looks like he is shaking a protein shake.)

He looks so, so guilty. I'm so glad this came crashing down on him so quickly. He sooo did not expect this immediate reaction and search. He must have been freaking out so bad as this all unfolded so fast. He looked guilty in the porch interviews and rocking back and forth, but kind of held it together even though his body language was giving him away.

But these scenes the police body cam captured - whoa. He was so rattled. And not in a "worried" husband/dad way. In a very obvious I am so f'ed way.

I don't think he ever stopped rocking and hugging himself. Except when he had his hands on his head.

 

[Tortoise]

I just posted it in the Media thread:

MEDIA, MAPS & TIMELINES - NO DISCUSSION - - Shanann Watts (34, dec.), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4

Apologies cyber, for misconstruing your post in the last thread. I didn't get a chance to reply before the thread was locked up. I got a bit touchy with all the recent 'shaming' posts of late.

 

[human]

Crimes that are for Federal prisons

Federal crime in the United States - Wikipedia

 

[mrjitty]

Does anyone else think this case is very similar to Chris Coleman?

He killed his wife and sons - again because he wanted to go off with an AP, but divorce was not his favoured option

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[MsBetsy]

Also, Primrose called police after a few phone calls. Not sure how soon after the news, but it was in the discovery. Everyone knew something was amiss.

The first woman he talked to wanted to call right away. But I think they waited until after his media interview.