Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #95

[Cindizzi]

Pretty sure it was covered in an earlier post how at the PH it was corrected that Barry misstated the pizza was on Friday when it was really Thursday evening. I hope I got it right this time, it's confused me all along - and therein lies the confusion.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong?
IMO

I’ve never seen anything about Moonlight Pizza being any other night but Friday.
They have texts that SM sent JL at 8:21 Saturday morning and he asked her how was your night last night and one of the things she mentioned in her reply was “ had pizza”.

From the Prelim:

https://twitter.com/laurenscharftv/status/1425122663819776000?s=21
On May 8, #BarryMorphew went and got Pizza at Moonlight Pizza in Salida. While he was out, #SuzanneMorphew sent a message on LinkedIn to Jeff Libler saying he is gone for a bit.

https://twitter.com/laurenscharftv/status/1425184641485578248?s=21
ON May 8, #SuzanneMorphew sent a picture of #Barrymorphew standing outside Moonlight Pizza waiting for pizza to the girls. The girls are in Utah on a roadtrip.

 

[marylamby]

I’ve never seen anything about Moonlight Pizza being any other night but Friday.
They have texts that SM sent JL at 8:21 Saturday morning and he asked her how was your night last and one of the things she mentioned in her reply was “ had pizza”.

From the Prelim:

https://twitter.com/laurenscharftv/status/1425122663819776000?s=21
On May 8, #BarryMorphew went and got Pizza at Moonlight Pizza in Salida. While he was out, #SuzanneMorphew sent a message on LinkedIn to Jeff Libler saying he is gone for a bit.

https://twitter.com/laurenscharftv/status/1425184641485578248?s=21
ON May 8, #SuzanneMorphew sent a picture of #Barrymorphew standing outside Moonlight Pizza waiting for pizza to the girls. The girls are in Utah on a roadtrip.

Welp, I've got 10+WS pages open in tabs and it's likely in one of them.
During the prelim hearing, there was questioning - I think between E and Grusing - about Friday night. What happened is she lumped the pizza night with Suzanne's text saying she'd had a peaceful evening the night before - pizza- looked at properties. Lindsey objected and the judge intervened. What I believe happened is Barry 'misspoke' *cough* to LE and it wasn't Fri but Thur she was talking about when she sent the text.
It was confusing as heck when reading the tweets and I think they finally figured it out at the PH.
E, subsequently, decided to quickly move onto another subject *cough cough*.
I must have a hairball, please excuse me..

IMO

ETA: Can the original poster of that PH exchange please chime in? I just took a brief look and couldn't find it. If not, I'll tag you @Cindizzi when I look at my profile comments.

 

[nyvictoria]

I still don’t believe Suzanne Morphew was the doormat as described by many here. Or BM this master hunter that kills wildlife, blurs the lines between animal and human, relishes in his hunt & the kill of his wife by having supper afterwards. <modsnip> BM is weak in mind and body. He’s not sex obsessed. He gave himself permission to date after finding out SM was having an affair by LE. This dude in his 50’s was so cliche to take his date to a hotel and buy flowers for V-Day. Come on. He’s out of his realm and treated the date like a boy. LOL He’s simple in thinking. He’s standard. IMO

eta: corrected spelling but probably not all of it.

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All JMO

I agree with you. He wants to be seen as the ultimate he-man. That’s what the “we men just need sex” is all about. Real men and, according to Barry, kidnappers want sex. IMO they didn’t have sex often. I don’t think Suzanne would have gone along if it was more than once in a while. If he ever forced himself on her, she likely would have put it on her list of reasons to divorce. When Suzanne told JL she wouldn’t deny Barry sex, it was because IMO it didn’t happen too often and Barry would whine and carry on and stop his feet like a toddler if she said no. FFS he’s a middle-aged man googling “how to make a girl orgasm” (on YouTube - he needed a visual?) and other adolescent boy searches. I doubt he wanted to please Suzanne. Going by his other searches, it’s more likely he planned to use this new-found knowledge on some barely legal girl he was trolling for.

It really irks me that he’s referred to as some kind of skilled hunter. He’s no hunter. He’s a killer, who had to tranq deer to take their racks, who would let a turkey stumble away wounded (if that story is true) without following to put it out of its misery. I don’t doubt he shot and killed animals but he had absolutely no respect for them. Bible-reading Barry probably believed God put the animals there solely for him to exploit.

He’s a braggart and a one-upper, constantly telling everyone about his latest manly accomplishments. I’ll bet the people around him got sick of listening to him go on and on about his supposed machismo. I lived with someone who incessantly bragged about himself. It was exhausting. Once, just for $8!&s and giggles, I counted the number of days in a row he bragged about something- 97! No lie.

 

[marylamby]

I can't find the SG 11 model on Google, but I can find the SQ11. Assuming they are the same thing, this is not something Barry would ever use as a game camera, as he claimed.

After Barry's shotgun escapade during Andy's search in which he was installing game cameras, I got the idea to buy one myself, here's a coyote it captured (Thanks Barry).
View attachment 334379
They are weather resistant, and way more effective than some tiny 30 dollar device.

That (sq11 or whatever) is absolutely a spy camera, and he would have purchased it as such. He had no shortage of game cameras, and he would never use something like that tiny little thing for that purpose.

He also claimed to not recall when he purchased it, as Grusing was trying to date it around the time of Suzanne's disappearance.

As we know by now, "I don't recall" is a lie. I have little doubt that camera was in use prior to Suzanne's disappearance, and I would bet money that it captured things that enraged him that week.

If not the very day in question.

Sorry, that was the SQ11 I just linked and deleted. I thought that was the one he had. Either model are definitely made for indoor spying.
Still trying miserably to catch up. It's futile, I'm afraid...............

 

[marylamby]

Honestly, not one person immediately involved in this case comes out smelling like a rose in my opinion...Maybe Grusing and Speeze, but no one else I can think of off the top of my head. I think early perceptions were based on outward appearances, personal projections and all the bells and whistles of a small town and an upper middle class family...and then it all starts coming out.

Who else smells badly, other than Barry, of course?
I'm not from a small town at all and bells and whistles don't bother me in the slightest.
Early perceptions aren't projections AND all of those early perceptions proved to be true from everything we've learned.
IMO

 

[mrjitty]

I was under the impression that they went to MG to let her know she would be paid but not in a way that would look suspect. I do believe she said later that she was paid for the time in Broomfield. I think I would have also told someone if I was in their position that they did not need to speak with the police or turn over their phone voluntarily. That is pretty normal for anyone who might be interviewed by LE and is sound advice IMO. I think we would need to know the exact conversation that took place before jumping to the conclusion that they were "shaking down" MG. So I do not perceive, without benefit of knowing the exact conversation that they did anything wrong in reaching out to MG. I'm sure she was concerned on some level if she would be paid in all the turmoil.

BIB

This can easily verge on tampering with witnesses IMO

It's all well to give useful guidance as to someones legal rights if asked, but it is quite peculiar for them to appear to advocate against cooperating with LE in the case of BM's missing wife. Especially since in the early stages a key job for LE is to clear around their feet, so establishing BM's whereabouts etc - verified by witnesses is critical.

While I understand the general public is usually not legally sophisticated, this interaction raises red flags even without the more serious overtones, because representatives for BM appear to act to hinder the investigation, presumably in concert with him.

I would expect them to want her to cooperate but with assistance from counsel (always prudent)

 

[MassGuy]

BIB

This can easily verge on tampering with witnesses IMO

It's all well to give useful guidance as to someones legal rights if asked, but it is quite peculiar for them to appear to advocate against cooperating with LE in the case of BM's missing wife. Especially since in the early stages a key job for LE is to clear around their feet, so establishing BM's whereabouts etc - verified by witnesses is critical.

While I understand the general public is usually not legally sophisticated, this interaction raises red flags even without the more serious overtones, because representatives for BM appear to act to hinder the investigation, presumably in concert with him.

I would expect them to want her to cooperate but with assistance from counsel (always prudent)

Barry's nephew (TN) handled this whole thing as incompetently and bizarrely as anything I've ever seen.

He gave out very little information, refused to go on camera, made bizarre requests of the media, had that strangely worded crowd funding campaign (at the time called it an obvious scam), and appeared to use distancing language at one point. Then he dropped off the map, never to be heard from again.

I've thought all along that he must have had some reservations, but I think the encounter with Morgan (and George) was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Because that whole situation does sound like attempted witness tampering, and I imagine law enforcement called him on that and it scared him to death.

Then he went dark.

I hope to hear from him at trial.

 

[marylamby]

Barry's nephew (TN) handled this whole thing as incompletely and bizarrely as anything I've ever seen.

He gave out very little information, refused to go on camera, made bizarre requests of the media, had that strangely worded crowd funding campaign (at the time called it an obvious scam), and appeared to use distancing language at one point. Then he dropped off the map, never to be heard from again.

I've thought all along that he must have had some reservations, but I think the encounter with Morgan (and George) was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Because that whole situation does sound like attempted witness tampering, and I imagine law enforcement called him on that and it scared him to death.

Then he went dark.

I hope to hear from him at trial.

That's exactly how I see it.

@mrjitty
Isn't it funny how they worded their 'request' to MG? They needed to be sure she didn't think her already earned paycheck (or cash, whatever) wasn't "hush money" but... she needn't give her phone to LE. It's as plain as day what they meant and why.
No 'presumably' needed. They were delivering money from Barry and conveying his wishes in no uncertain terms.
Barry not only thinks of himself as a God who can decide who lives or dies, but Mario Puzo's Godfather too.
I hope those two have wised up and will tell the truth.
IMO

 

[katydid23]

I hope the jurors hear about Morgan and others being 'advised' not to give detectives access to their phones, etc. and the 'not-hush' money.... Because Barry's lovely WIFE was missing, possibly abducted. Wouldn't he hope that the detectives could find important clues by interviewing these employees and looking at phone data?

If BM didn't know where his wife was, wouldn't he think that maybe one of his 'no good meth head' employees might be involved ? Why wouldn't he want them all fully investigated just in case?

 

[mrjitty]

Barry's nephew (TN) handled this whole thing as incompetently and bizarrely as anything I've ever seen.

He gave out very little information, refused to go on camera, made bizarre requests of the media, had that strangely worded crowd funding campaign (at the time called it an obvious scam), and appeared to use distancing language at one point. Then he dropped off the map, never to be heard from again.

I've thought all along that he must have had some reservations, but I think the encounter with Morgan (and George) was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Because that whole situation does sound like attempted witness tampering, and I imagine law enforcement called him on that and it scared him to death.

Then he went dark.

I hope to hear from him at trial.

Yes - perhaps he realised that venturing into obstruction of justice land wasn't a good life choice.

 

[marylamby]

Yes - perhaps he realised that venturing into obstruction of justice land wasn't a good life choice.

I've even entertained the idea that something else might've been going on, murder aside. Something they may have been privy to or even involved in. Possibly Barry used MG's phone a few times.
I know that's 'out there' but I try to figure a possible reason why MG's phone was so important to Barry.
Or, is it simply that texts between Barry and MG contradict Barry's many lies. Did he confide in her? Was it the wall alibi? Something or somethings else?

 

[Kemug]

Good point, why was MG's phone so important to Barry? I can well believe he may have used it sometimes, without her knowledge. Maybe for something slightly criminal, or maybe for pursuing his extra-marital activities, if any. Maybe just "because it was there." Or as @marylamby said, maybe there were texts or calls between them which contradicted what he had told the police. And if so, we will soon find out.

 

[waldojabba]

The "firing" was not good...that's on Barry and it stinks. I don't think the other two were doing anything wrong and may have relieved MG's mind if she did have a concern she might not be paid.

At approx the five minute mark
Here is a portion of Lauren's intereview with Morgan Gentile - Morgan recounts Barry's guys approaching her about her pay not looking like "hush hush" money / how the guys advised her she did not have to give up her phone /Morgan then recounts being fired by Barry basically for giving her phone to police and cooperating. Lauren includes a clip from Barry characterizing his long time "employee" as a meth head who is just mad her fired her so she is saying bad things.

 

[Megnut]

At approx the five minute mark
Here is a portion of Lauren's intereview with Morgan Gentile - Morgan recounts Barry's guys approaching her about her pay not looking like "hush hush" money / how the guys advised her she did not have to give up her phone /Morgan then recounts being fired by Barry basically for giving her phone to police and cooperating. Lauren includes a clip from Barry characterizing his long time "employee" as a meth head who is just mad her fired her so she is saying bad things.

I wonder what Barry said in his firing text.

For poor finish work on the wall with the wrong tools that he'd left in the hotel when he rushed away, having been at the wall all day with workers present?

Or did he change it up?

Good news. Whatever he said on whatever device he said it on, LE has it.

JMO

 

[MrsWatson]

I wonder what Barry said in his firing text.

For poor finish work on the wall with the wrong tools that he'd left in the hotel when he rushed away, having been at the wall all day with workers present?

Or did he change it up?

Good news. Whatever he said on whatever device he said it on, LE has it.

JMO

MG was also uncomfortable enough with the entire situation to move out of the area.

 

[K9Enzo]

Agree with all you said but it’s all a guess at this point. That’s why I would like to hear from him. He was with BM’s nephew when the two tried to shake down MG and threaten her with not getting her pay from Barry and told her she didn’t have to turn over her phone to LE. Are you willing to give him a pass for that? I am not. He should have known the moment Barry asked him to do something so wrong that Barry was not so innocent.

I would have to believe that’s exactly how that went down and it was the intent to shake her down. To me it sounds like a fantastical story. I just don’t believe BM has henchmen…at all. MG is another person in this awful story who I believe got a unfair shake by social media. IMO

 

[FromGermany1]

a
All JMO

I agree with you. He wants to be seen as the ultimate he-man. That’s what the “we men just need sex” is all about. Real men and, according to Barry, kidnappers want sex. IMO they didn’t have sex often. I don’t think Suzanne would have gone along if it was more than once in a while. If he ever forced himself on her, she likely would have put it on her list of reasons to divorce. When Suzanne told JL she wouldn’t deny Barry sex, it was because IMO it didn’t happen too often and Barry would whine and carry on and stop his feet like a toddler if she said no. FFS he’s a middle-aged man googling “how to make a girl orgasm” (on YouTube - he needed a visual?) and other adolescent boy searches. I doubt he wanted to please Suzanne. Going by his other searches, it’s more likely he planned to use this new-found knowledge on some barely legal girl he was trolling for.

It really irks me that he’s referred to as some kind of skilled hunter. He’s no hunter. He’s a killer, who had to tranq deer to take their racks, who would let a turkey stumble away wounded (if that story is true) without following to put it out of its misery. I don’t doubt he shot and killed animals but he had absolutely no respect for them. Bible-reading Barry probably believed God put the animals there solely for him to exploit.

He’s a braggart and a one-upper, constantly telling everyone about his latest manly accomplishments. I’ll bet the people around him got sick of listening to him go on and on about his supposed machismo. I lived with someone who incessantly bragged about himself. It was exhausting. Once, just for $8!&s and giggles, I counted the number of days in a row he bragged about something- 97! No lie.

I wonder, what he did with his sex ambitions, when he left his useful wife for his many hunting tours (even out of Indiana)? He must have been famished each time, poor man.

 

[FromGermany1]

I would have to believe that’s exactly how that went down and it was the intent to shake her down. To me it sounds like a fantastical story. I just don’t believe BM has henchmen…at all. MG is another person in this awful story who I believe got a unfair shake by social media. IMO

BM had to send henchmen. Imagine, he would have been photographed, meeting with MG! The worst nightmare for him as a super faithful husband. IMO

 

[Megnut]

If Suzanne and Barry were in town on Thursday for pizza, Suzanne may indeed have had a quiet evening on Friday. And had pizza. Leftover pizza.

The calm before the hellstorm.

What I want to know is where Suzanne thought Barry was all night Friday into Saturday. With his abnormally high cell activity. By the river. FWIW I don't know that he was down by the river. IMO he may have been up by the river.

It was May. No foliage. With a scope, could he have been sightlining Suzanne's bedroom window? Setting up a high powered camera which he then viewed Saturday morning, while at the beachsite with MG?

That would explain a lot.

JMO

 

[K9Enzo]

From what I can tell...everyone or just about everyone they talked to is there as I mentioned earlier. I believe they did talk to Lauren. There was that strange period after she called him on the phone and then the confrontation at the condo when his daughter was upset. And that is only 2 times I suspect they had a conversation with her. I'm sure she was doing her share of knocking on doors as an investigative reporter. They talked to non-media you tuber/videocasters also from what I saw on the list that had been taping and looking around the area. I'm wondering if some of the names that aren't easily recognizable were people that were on the "people's search" in the fall with Suzanne's brother that were dog handlers or who turned over information they found or called in tips on which they followed up. They have allowed 4 weeks for trial so clearly not all 500 people on that list are going to be in court testifying and that is only the prosecution side...defense might have witnesses also so even if they could get through 6-8 a day which is pretty speedy with testimony and cross there won't be anywhere near 500. It's all going to depend on what prosecution will be allowed to use as evidence I would think and what theory they are going with - if they are sticking with the dart gun theory or have modified their theory. If they aren't going to use the bobcat for example, they don't need the DSI guy that helped with the blade change IMO. If they aren't going to use the search at the river house there are quite a few people in investigators and including the lady who heard noises she couldn't quite remember which night but close to the date Suzanne went missing they may not need or call as another example in my opinion.

Good thought on a dog handler(s) being on the witness list from AM’s search- one is. IMO