Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #95

[waldojabba]

I watched Lauren’s interview with MG for the first time, the one posted above. Her answer about the extent of her relationship with Barry suggests to me that she’s not being honest. Her squirms, her eye movements, her inflection.

I wouldn’t at all be surprised if there was much more to their relationship. She’s very pretty and young, they were together alone a lot, he would pick her up for long drives to jobs, they would stay in hotels in out of town jobs. She seems to know a lot about him, his daily activities, his personality and moods, his relationships, the sound of his truck, etc.

that would explain to me why he expected her to be so loyal, to tell her about his skill at burying a body, to feel free to talk to her about hush money, about not cooperating with an investigation.

Why would he not want her to talk or show her phone? The most likely obvious thing would be that he did not want anyone to find evidence of him having affairs.

moo

@WestGL
Yes totally agree esp now with watching MG again in that interview - there was a picture of SM when younger and MG bears a striking resemblance - time will tell !

 

[sk716]

Join the club. I'm pretty sure Shoshona was the housekeeper for that home.
IMO

Different woman altogether.

I do believe Barry had access to the Cushman home pretty much any the time. When you know and get along with your neighbors you usually leave a spare key with them. JR knew the code to get into the Morphew home, so it stands to reason that since the Cushmans lived elsewhere part of the year that the nearest neighbor knew how to access the house in case of emergency. Suzanne knew and trusted the Cushmans well enough to call them when Barry was stalking her and SO at PP.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Where do you think he would go off to when he would leave? IMO, he already had somewhere to go.
I don't think he was home Wednesday or Friday evening, according to the PH testimony.
IMO

SD maybe?

 

[Momofthreeboys]

She clearly implies there is another woman by her response. Barry also uses the term "love" rather than another woman. A little Bill Clintonish with his response.

But remember the public was sleuthing for a mistress and many internet groups and chats had fingered MG personally....I believe that is why she claimed she wasn't "the other woman"....not that she "knew" necessarily there was another woman. We may never know if there was "another woman" because it may not factor into the trial or no one can substantiate a recent affair to their time in Colorado - they don't really need it to suggest a motive IMO.

 

[jakat]

I wonder, what he did with his sex ambitions, when he left his useful wife for his many hunting tours (even out of Indiana)? He must have been famished each time, poor man.

If he even was on a hunting trip. He probably lied about those trips, too. He was with another woman. JMO

 

[sk716]

BM description per wh

I swear these attorneys purposely make mistakes to confuse, then instead of sticking with the correct information they quickly change the subject. Can you imagine how confused a jury will be if the Judge doesn't nip this in the bud immediately.[/QUOTE]

That is my impression as well.

 

[Scootie98]

But remember the public was sleuthing for a mistress and many internet groups and chats had fingered MG personally....I believe that is why she claimed she wasn't "the other woman"....not that she "knew" necessarily there was another woman. We may never know if there was "another woman" because it may not factor into the trial or no one can substantiate a recent affair to their time in Colorado - they don't really need it to suggest a motive IMO.

I think early on, most, including myself, were operating on the assumption that if there was an affair going on...it was BM exclusively who would be having an affair. I for one was seriously surprised at the publication of Suzanne's affair. I think the "other woman" narrative floating about early on reinforced that assumption. We didn't hear about "another man" for months.

 

[Scootie98]

If he even was on a hunting trip. He probably lied about those trips, too. He was with another woman. JMO

If he wasn't hunting alone, or wasn't hunting when supposedly hunting with others....I think his hunting partners will be hard pressed to cover for him.

 

[jakat]

And I wonder if their disappearances would ever have been connected?

If Suzanne didn't have a spy pen I think not. She had Jeff well hidden.

JMO

 

[Iwondertoo]

Among other things, MG may have known about Shoshona. She wouldn't be the first mistress to visit a boyfriend on a job.
Maybe Barry treated MG like 'one of the guys' as in bragging about this one or that one. He did have profiles on dating sites - no idea when that began. And who were the women, not family members, Barry was face-timing with in jail?
We don't have long to wait now.
Just speculation and JMO

BBM

How did I miss that? Where was it shown he had profiles on dating sites? Somehow I never heard that before.

I've never been totally convinced Barry even had affairs. Suzanne's best friend and sister have said he did but as far as I know, that was based on statements they were told by SM. To my knowledge, there has never been any proof of an affair. (Not that it even matters in the death of SM.)

JMO

 

[sk716]

Need confirmation from some sleuthers. This is where Barry's truck is after 02:30 on the 11th through the 15th. I'm guessing that this is where CCSO processes seized vehicles. I can't find any readable signing on the exterior of the building. There are a couple of signs at the gate, but I can't make them out on street view lending to my theory that this is CCSO property. If we can all agree that this is CCSO property, I can stop entering the Parking Light activity into Google Earth.

Google Maps

 

[Cindizzi]

If Suzanne didn't have a spy pen I think not. She had Jeff well hidden.

JMO

I don’t know, but it was a very small town and high school they both attended. LE went to Indiana and interviewed many people. If JL had suddenly gone missing around the same time, news of that would probably make it’s way back “home” ( even though he lived in Michigan). News travels fast on Facebook.

Someone like SO might remember the incidents described in the screenshot below.

After that, LE would definitely have to see if there was a connection.
Perhaps they would find that JL’s business trips and vacations placed him in the same cities at the same time as SM.

Might sound far fetched lol. I’m just guessing at scenarios.
JMO

 

[notbornyesterday]

Barry's nephew (TN) handled this whole thing as incompetently and bizarrely as anything I've ever seen.

He gave out very little information, refused to go on camera, made bizarre requests of the media, had that strangely worded crowd funding campaign (at the time called it an obvious scam), and appeared to use distancing language at one point. Then he dropped off the map, never to be heard from again.

I've thought all along that he must have had some reservations, but I think the encounter with Morgan (and George) was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Because that whole situation does sound like attempted witness tampering, and I imagine law enforcement called him on that and it scared him to death.

Then he went dark.

I hope to hear from him at trial.

Why do you suppose there hasn't been any charges brought against him and George for that? Do you think he gave info to LE and switched sides when he was confronted? Maybe he didn't want to go down with the ship on the SS Barry? I have thought that might be the case since he did go radio silent and he wasn't at the PH with his mother and grandmother. Maybe that is what Barry's sister was referring to when she confronted Lauren about (paraphrasing) ruining their family. Could there now be a rift between Trevor and the family?

 

[Momofthreeboys]

BBM

How did I miss that? Where was it shown he had profiles on dating sites? Somehow I never heard that before.

I've never been totally convinced Barry even had affairs. Suzanne's best friend and sister have said he did but as far as I know, that was based on statements they were told by SM. To my knowledge, there has never been any proof of an affair. (Not that it even matters in the death of SM.)

JMO

I agree, we don't know that he had profiles on dating sites. We do know that he or someone using his device did web searches for Ashley Madison and some other sex related searches. If investigators uncovered profiles that information has not been made public. And no, LE did not uncover an affair at the time they made that statement. There is all kinds of fascination and speculation out in chatland and here about Barry and his sex life both when they lived in Indiana and since they moved to Colorado but very little that we know for fact other than he seems to enjoy sex...like most people I suppose. I think I can buy into the possibility that he was unfaithful -- potentially one night stand type stuff or certainly attempts...but I think if he had something more continuing that LE would have uncovered it if it was local. Part of Suzanne's luck was it doesn't sound like she and JL were ever together in Salida so she was able to keep it super duper hidden although some have questioned that also and wonder if Liber visited Salida. Her texts the week before she went missing don't fit the dialogue one expects with a husband one is fed up with and thinking of divorcing so who knows. I personally think LE would have at minimum asked JL if he had ever visited Suzanne in Salida during the two years they were hooking up.

 

[sk716]

I see a witness for the Department of Corrections in Cannon City, CO on the list. Anyone have thoughts on what that can be for? Would they have used dogs in the search or is that where Barry was housed?

I was looking for something else and stumbled on this blurb:

The search resumed on Monday May 11 with Search and Rescue. They once again scoured the area. Members were then called from the Chaffee County Tac Team along with search parties from the Department of Corrections and the area was once again scoured.
More than 100 help search for missing woman in Chaffee County | FOX21 News Colorado​

 

[OldCop]

OldCop might have changed the theory on what was inside the can.

RSBM
The market trash dive still bugs me. Was he retrieving something or discarding something? It also bugs me that, if true, there was video of BM at the market and LE failed to retrieve it before it was over written.

 

[DizzyB]

Need confirmation from some sleuthers. This is where Barry's truck is after 02:30 on the 11th through the 15th. I'm guessing that this is where CCSO processes seized vehicles. I can't find any readable signing on the exterior of the building. There are a couple of signs at the gate, but I can't make them out on street view lending to my theory that this is CCSO property. If we can all agree that this is CCSO property, I can stop entering the Parking Light activity into Google Earth.

Google Maps

I would have thought the county would own whatever land their building sat on, but I am having trouble finding without an exact address. Assessor

 

[DellaC]

Need confirmation from some sleuthers. This is where Barry's truck is after 02:30 on the 11th through the 15th. I'm guessing that this is where CCSO processes seized vehicles. I can't find any readable signing on the exterior of the building. There are a couple of signs at the gate, but I can't make them out on street view lending to my theory that this is CCSO property. If we can all agree that this is CCSO property, I can stop entering the Parking Light activity into Google Earth.

Google Maps

Edited to remove extraneous stuff I left in post.

Through the Chaffee County Planning and Zoning Office: qPublic.net - Chaffee County, CO - Report: R380504100032

 

[Megnut]

If he even was on a hunting trip. He probably lied about those trips, too. He was with another woman. JMO

I wonder if, when Suzanne thought he was hunting (in greater Colorado, Utah, Montana), he was actually just across the way.

Cozying up at the Cushman's.

The incident where Suzanne and SO were afraid -- oh, I believe he stunk, but I wonder if he was closer all along than Suzanne realized.

Furthermore if Barry had side pieces, all he had to find was one other man in the same skeevy skiff. Two men alibi-ing each other. Tell my wife you're with me. *wink, wink*

JMO

 

[sk716]

Welp, I've got 10+WS pages open in tabs and it's likely in one of them.
During the prelim hearing, there was questioning - I think between E and Grusing - about Friday night. What happened is she lumped the pizza night with Suzanne's text saying she'd had a peaceful evening the night before - pizza- looked at properties. Lindsey objected and the judge intervened. What I believe happened is Barry 'misspoke' *cough* to LE and it wasn't Fri but Thur she was talking about when she sent the text.
It was confusing as heck when reading the tweets and I think they finally figured it out at the PH.
E, subsequently, decided to quickly move onto another subject *cough cough*.
I must have a hairball, please excuse me..

IMO

ETA: Can the original poster of that PH exchange please chime in? I just took a brief look and couldn't find it. If not, I'll tag you @Cindizzi when I look at my profile comments.

Here's the whole schizophrenic mess I think you're referring to:

Q Eytan: And later that day at 3:51 pm what appears to be is there was a fight about money again, correct?

A Harris: What are you referring to?

Q Eytan: At 3:51 — let’s back up. At 2:43 p.m that day Suzanne received the following message from Barry. “I’m sorry if things went the way they did. I have a problem dealing with the way you accused me of hiding checks. If you think I’m as terrible of a person to hide our accounts and have ones you don’t know about you don’t know me. All I do is for you and the girls. All. When I’m dead, which won’t be long, you guys will be taken care of. Please stop being angry. If I can control my hurt heart I think I can overcome your distant unlovingness toward me. Honey, I swear it’s the hardest thing I’ve had to do. I love you I always will.”

A Harris: Just to be clear, you said that’s from Mr. Morphew to Suzanne, correct?

Q Eytan: Suzanne received the following message from Barry

A Harris: Yes.

Q Eytan: And what he’s commenting about is — it appears to be an argument about money, correct?

A Harris: It appears to be, yes.

Q Eytan: It also appears to be that they had an argument where Suzanne was once again accusing Mr. Morphew of having an affair, correct?

A Harris: Sorry I was focused on the money part.

Q Eytan: Sure. At 3:51 Suzanne received another message from Mr. Morphew, “I promise you were wrong about all the crazy thoughts about me. I have always been faithful. Always. why would I ever want another when I’m married to the most beautiful, sweet, kind, loving, woman as you? Only a fool would stray from an angel like you,” correct?

A Harris: Correct.

Q Eytan: Same day. 7:15 pm when Mr. Morphew went to get pizza from Moonlight Pizza Ms. Morphew let Jeff Libler know that she was free to talk. She said at 7:18, “He’s gone for a bit.” That correct?

A Harris: Can I look on the messages?

Q Eytan: Yes.

A Harris: I’m having a hard time finding it. Can you remind me of the content again?

THE COURT: “He’s gone for a bit.” “Can you talk?”

A Harris: I don’t see that on the night of 5/6 in LinkedIn.

MR. LINDSEY: Look at 5/8.

BY MS. EYTAN:

Q Eytan: 5/8. I apologize, 5/8.

THE COURT: So the pizza thing is May 8th not May 6th?

Q Eytan: May 8th.

A Harris: Now I’m getting confused. So May 8th at what time in the evening?

Q Eytan: 7:18

A Harris: I’m sorry, I’m not finding it.

Q Eytan: Okay let me back up. On May 6th, there was this text argument we just talked about, correct?

A Harris: Correct.

Q Eytan: On May 7th, there’s a text between the two of them saying how magical the last two days were, correct? Between Mr. Morphew and Mr. Libler. Do you recall that text?

THE COURT: I’m sorry I’m lost.

MS. EYTAN: I’m backing up dates. So I’m backing up from Moonlight Pizza. Sorry.

BY MS. EYTAN:

Q Eytan: Okay so backing up. there was a text argument that we talked about, the I’m done and the apologies and statements from Mr. Morphew on May 6th,

A Harris: Correct.

Q Eytan: May 7th.

A Harris: Yes.

Q Eytan: Mr. Libler and Ms. Morphew are texting and one of the things they text to each other about is how magical the last two days have been.

A Harris: And what day was that?

Q Eytan: May 7th, 7:25 am

MS. EYTAN: Can I please approach the witness and help.

THE COURT: That’s fine.

A Harris: Yes.

BY MS. EYTAN:

Q Eytan: As you can see on May 7th, Ms. Morphew continues to text message between Mr. Libler a lot of the day, correct?

A Harris: Correct.

Q Eytan: But you remember from looking at the investigation that — and in your timeline — that at 4:43 on May 7th Ms. Morphew lets her husband, Barry, know she’s been studying all afternoon and had veggie soup on for dinner. You recall that?

A Harris: Yes, I recall that statement.

Q Eytan: And Ms. Morphew’s next report about Barry beingbetween the report about Barry to Mr. Libler is on May 9th at 8L21 am, the next report about Barry where she says to Mr. Libler after he asked her how her night was and she said, “I had a fine, quiet night. Picked up pizza and looked around town at houses for sale. Still talk of Arizona.” Correct?

A Harris: Correct.

Q Eytan: So Ms. Morphew is telling Mr. Libler that she had a fine night with Mr. Morphew on May 8th, correct?

A Harris: Yes.

MR. LINDSEY: Judge, I’m going to object. That’s very much speculation. Fine evening does not mean anything other than she had a fine evening and who she was with, or who she wasn’t with, it’s not in the text, that’s complete speculation.

THE COURT: It would help if we could get the testimony about the pizza. That got very confused because you had the date wrong.

So I think if we can establish that they had pizza on the 8th and on the 9th she said she had a fine night, I had pizza there’s a link there, but we don’t have the pizza part yet.

MS EYTAN: Okay.

BY MS. EYTAN:

Q Eytan: On May 8th at 7:15 pm Ms. Morphew lets Mr. Libler know that she can talk to him on WhatsApp.

A Harris: You said 7:15 on May 8th.

Q Eytan: Okay, we’re going to move off the pizza. Okay? let’s move to Suzanne’s secret bank account. On April 23, 2020. Suzanne’s Gmail account received a statement from her Green Dot account, correct?

A Harris: I’m actually —

MR. LINDSEY: I’m going to object. This is beyond the scope.​

Went with a slightly larger chunk than usual so Hurricane Iris's confuse and change the subject strategy is a little more obvious. I imagine it's really hard to keep track of her "questioning" in person.