Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #95

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  • #681
BBM
I realize I'm just coming in at the end of some long conversations.

However, I just want to add: where would we be without Lauren and her tenacity??!

I thank God there are reporters, let alone women, who are willing to go above and beyond the call of duty to get the truth. She alone, for what she has done deserves a Bam!!
When I grow up I want to be her!

As for prosecution and what they "are allowed to use".... no doubt in my mind they will get the job done!

I remember like it was yesterday, when I hiked the hills of Mark Redwine's house. Many of us were distraught, tired and cold... and after coming home I can't tell you how many times I cried myself to sleep for a boy I did not even know.

So, I'll tell you one thing---we knew he was guilty and we knew he killed his son and we knew we were going to find his body... and we knew Mark was going to be proclaimed guilty.

I don't want to hear about the shortcomings, weaknesses, or foibles of Lauren. She has got done what so many of us wish to God we could do on our own.

She is fighting for Suzanne, that's all I need to know.

There was nothing in my comment that "dissed" Lauren nor did I list shortcomings, weaknesses or foibles. She was the only investigative reporter doing what she did and was doing what all investigative reporters do...knocking on doors.... so of course I think LE has spoken with her. Without Lauren, Ashley and Carol, none of us would know what was going on in the courtroom. I take umbrage at the implication that I was "dissing" Lauren. I have the utmost respect for trained journalists. I do agree with Mass however, that journalists do not generally take the stand and their corporate office generally fight it if they are subpoenaed.
 
  • #682
She was told she didn't have to cooperate, she did cooperate, and then Barry fired her.

Of course if Barry had nothing to hide, then he had nothing to fear by her talking to law enforcement.

No one was looking out for her; they were looking out for Barry.

Most damning though, is Barry was looking out for Barry.
The "firing" was not good...that's on Barry and it stinks. I don't think the other two were doing anything wrong and may have relieved MG's mind if she did have a concern she might not be paid.
 
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I've been sure for a long time now, as sure as I can be without video. I also think her fiance may have found out about it which led to their breakup.
IMO
Curious if her fiancée is on that witness list?
 
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This is what I can find about Friday night May 8.
In one of his interviews Grusing told BM that until they had recovered SM’s texts with JL on Saturday , they thought something had happened to her on Friday night
( I’m still looking for that quote).
Pretty sure it was covered in an earlier post how at the PH it was corrected that Barry misstated the pizza was on Friday when it was really Thursday evening. I hope I got it right this time, it's confused me all along - and therein lies the confusion.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong?
IMO
 
  • #687
You and me both @justtrish. It makes no sense that Barry would accuse Sho's daughter and boyfriend of doing something to Suzanne, if he didn't even know her. How does that even work? How did he know Sho even had a daughter with a boyfriend?

And how would Sho, and much less her boyfriend, know if "a strange car" was around Puma Path on the weekend Suzanne disappeared? Weren't those properties rentals? If rentals, then surely there are always "strange" cars around the area! Why would Sho's boyfriend even go so far as to go on the record and say that? Why would Sho tell LE that? It's very, very interesting that those are the 2 people that saw anything unordinary around the area that weekend.

I'll never be convinced they didn't know each other before May 9, and I'll be shocked if she isn't involved in this, even in a small way.

I can think of one very pertinent reason Barry might have been interested in a cleaner...

Imo.

What might make more sense is he said that to throw them off the trail that he and Sho had anything going on.
 
  • #688
I was under the impression that they went to MG to let her know she would be paid but not in a way that would look suspect. I do believe she said later that she was paid for the time in Broomfield. I think I would have also told someone if I was in their position that they did not need to speak with the police or turn over their phone voluntarily. That is pretty normal for anyone who might be interviewed by LE and is sound advice IMO. I think we would need to know the exact conversation that took place before jumping to the conclusion that they were "shaking down" MG. So I do not perceive, without benefit of knowing the exact conversation that they did anything wrong in reaching out to MG. I'm sure she was concerned on some level if she would be paid in all the turmoil.
Well, if I worked for someone or somebody worked for me, I would not think of their paycheck for their work as "hush money" .. I mean, who would even say that, unless someone wants somebody to NOT talk.

It feels threatening of her pay and her job and ......
OH,, yeah.. she did get FIRED ... because she gave LE her phone.

I wonder if she even got her paycheck for her work job in Broomfield and for the Saturday morning "sand raking" job ??

From article--
Gentile said she and Puckett packed up and drove back to Salida, where the investigation into Suzanne’s disappearance was well underway. She said, back in town, she was approached by two men, both linked to Barry, who told her, “We would give you your paycheck, but we don’t want it to look like hush-hush money. You have rights, but you don’t have to give CBI your phone.”

Still, Gentile reports she did cooperate with most of what investigators asked of her, including, she said, five interviews. She also turned over her phone, but said she declined a polygraph.

“I know my rights and I don’t have anything to hide,” she said.

She says she heard from Barry again, days after, through text.

“He fired me because I gave up my phone,
I wasn’t staying quiet and I was complying with CBI,” she said of that interaction. “I feel like if he was innocent, he would have talked to me. I worked with him every day for a long time.”

‘I’m not the other woman’: Second contractor speaks out about Suzanne Morphew investigation | FOX21 News Colorado
 
  • #689
I’m still thinking Barry was ticked that she wouldn’t have sex that night so he took off to find someone who would or just to leave as he sometimes did. I figure he was still upset at work Saturday with MG and that’s why he left work was to confront Suzanne and tell her she wasn’t getting a divorce and maybe he somehow saw her communicating with JL.
Where do you think he would go off to when he would leave? IMO, he already had somewhere to go.
I don't think he was home Wednesday or Friday evening, according to the PH testimony.
IMO
 
  • #690
Well, if I worked for someone or somebody worked for me, I would not think of their paycheck for their work as "hush money" .. I mean, who would even say that, unless someone wants somebody to NOT talk.

It feels threatening of her pay and her job and ......
OH,, yeah.. she did get fired... because she gave LE her phone.

I wonder if she even got her paycheck for her work job in Broomfield and for the Saturday morning "sand raking" job ??
I luv how she got fired for turning her phone over.

Lol! "So Barry, why would you be so desperate that law enforcement never get near MG's phone????"
 
  • #691
I was under the impression that they went to MG to let her know she would be paid but not in a way that would look suspect. I do believe she said later that she was paid for the time in Broomfield. I think I would have also told someone if I was in their position that they did not need to speak with the police or turn over their phone voluntarily. That is pretty normal for anyone who might be interviewed by LE and is sound advice IMO. I think we would need to know the exact conversation that took place before jumping to the conclusion that they were "shaking down" MG. So I do not perceive, without benefit of knowing the exact conversation that they did anything wrong in reaching out to MG. I'm sure she was concerned on some level if she would be paid in all the turmoil.
That's a nice way of putting it but that's not even close to what they said to MG. IIRC, they brought her pay with them and told her they didn't want her to take as though it were a bribe - or something to that effect - but with the caveat of how she didn't have to give her phone over to LE. Scared her enough for her to leave town. Doesn't sound like friendly advice to me.
We'll find out when she testifies. Barry will shake his head "no no no" much like he did in his short plea to Suzanne on a facebook video. His one and only public appearance which I believe was 7-8 days after her 'disappearance'.
IMO
 
  • #692
That really weird, contrived quiver in his voice makes me giggle every time I watch the video. He must have googled how to be a concerned husband of a missing wife for that one.
But he missed the part where one must not continuously shake their head NO when trying to convey the truth.
IMO
 
  • #693
I imagine that some of the people who originally believed in Barry have changed their minds over the last year or so. His behaviour (new girlfriend, selling Suzanne's RR so quickly, also the house) will have given them pause.
 
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She may have to, unless the DA can work around it. Her interviews were first-hand and recorded. She could always get a book out of the deal. :)
LS has always come through for us and more importantly Suzanne Morphew so I thank her for all her hard work. Also the George with however many tours may have come around. I would hate to he him but I thank him also for his service in the military. Barry has apparently fooled the majority of women in his life so IMO everyone else deserves the benefit of the doubt. If you’re fortunate to have never known a Barry or experienced their toxicity, good for you. Unfortunately most of us have had at least one bad passenger and hopefully the jury is not immune to this. IMO
 
  • #696
Yes ITA.
And we don’t have a written transcript of this phone interview with Special Agents in December 2020 showing that JL said “ I don’t believe “ or “ I don’t think”.

We have one sentence from the Agent’s report that says:
“ After referencing the LinkedIn messages before and after, JL does not believe they used WhatsApp that time or later that day”.

I think the part about looking at the LI messages is key.
We have no idea what 2 of his messages say.

Not defending JL at all.
Just trying to use critical thinking while putting aside any judgments of his other behavior.
MOO
I don't think they got that far. Barry was busy murdering her.
IMO
 
  • #697
LS has always come through for us and more importantly Suzanne Morphew so I thank her for all her hard work. Also the George with however many tours may have come around. I would hate to he him but I thank him also for his service in the military. Barry has apparently fooled the majority of women in his life so IMO everyone else deserves the benefit of the doubt. If you’re fortunate to have never known a Barry or experienced their toxicity, good for you. Unfortunately most of us have had at least one bad passenger and hopefully the jury is not immune to this. IMO
I have mad respect for Lauren.
I don't know if GD had knowledge that Barry killed Suzanne or not, or if he eventually figured it out or not.
I certainly think he used very bad judgement in accosting MG and touching the bike. That's really all I know about him. I'm also not going to blindly give anyone a pass.
As far as knowing someone(s) like Barry? Unfortunately and to my embarrassment, I could write a book.
 
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Fair question @Love Never Fails I disagree about the willingly, but just my thoughts based on my own life experiences and knowing someone else, who I believed in for years, they were that good.

I do think Barry is that good at being "cunning". Excellent at it and he had a lifetime of practice. People were finally catching on to him in Indiana, he had been able to fool so many for a very long time but it was finally coming to light… hence the necessary move to Colorado. As for the TN/GD/MG

Trevor sure abandoned his role as family spokesperson awful quickly. I too wondered why he got involved with the Morgan business. I am thinking that Barry presented two stories initially, depending on who he was talking to.

Trevor and the guys got she may have run off, she hasn’t been happy, could be the cancer re-bout, I don’t really know, someone could have talked her into going, I know she’s been friending strangers lately, maybe she didn’t feel loved anymore that’s my fault, but we want her back, all is forgiven.… (hence, Trevor thinking that “no questions asked” was meant for Suzanne and what a great guy his uncle is.) Thought it was interesting in one of Trevor's interviews, "Suzanne if you're hearing this" George on the other hand, just feeling badly for his friend.

The church group, less likely to buy infidelity, got the mountain lion story.

As to Morgan and Trevor/George’s involvement. It was awfully early on. I can hear Barry

“She’ll raise hell (Morgan) if she’s not paid but now it will look bad…I don’t care if she talks to police…I really don’t, but she is a drama queen, I know Morgan. I’m afraid she’ll set me/us up, for attention/drama if nothing else. I can’t handle this right now. Listen, we don't need this"

Barry's way of distancing Morgan...

And they (George and Trevor) thinking they are helping….go off to visit Morgan and pay her. Who knows what was actually said? Later, Trevor has some light bulb moments.
Okay, I can buy this the way you're putting it but there's one thing that has always stood out in my mind..
In an early interview or statement, Trevor referred to Suzanne as his Aunt and Barry as her husband. Never forgot it.
What's THAT about? I even asked here if I was mistaken as to who's relative he was? Maybe it's nothing, I don't know.
IMO

ETA: Can you people keep it down? I'm trying to catch up over here... sheesh!
SO KIDDING! :D
 
  • #700
BBM
I realize I'm just coming in at the end of some long conversations.

However, I just want to add: where would we be without Lauren and her tenacity??!

I thank God there are reporters, let alone women, who are willing to go above and beyond the call of duty to get the truth. She alone, for what she has done deserves a Bam!!
When I grow up I want to be her!

As for prosecution and what they "are allowed to use".... no doubt in my mind they will get the job done!

I remember like it was yesterday, when I hiked the hills of Mark Redwine's house. Many of us were distraught, tired and cold... and after coming home I can't tell you how many times I cried myself to sleep for a boy I did not even know.

So, I'll tell you one thing---we knew he was guilty and we knew he killed his son and we knew we were going to find his body... and we knew Mark was going to be proclaimed guilty.

I don't want to hear about the shortcomings, weaknesses, or foibles of Lauren. She has got done what so many of us wish to God we could do on our own.

She is fighting for Suzanne, that's all I need to know.
I love this. All of it. :)
 
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