Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #16

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  • #701
If you draw an imaginary vertical line centered on the pin drop labeled "Bridge Over Fooses Creek, then everything to the right of that line would fit the LE description of "west of the intersection of US Hwy 50 and County Road 225". IMO
 
  • #702
I can't find any mention of what type bicycle Suzanne was allegedly riding. Road bike or mountain bike. Per this map, it appears the personal item(s) was found on the highway.

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  • #704
It would be very interesting to have some insight of what profilers thoughts where on cases like this afterwards.
 
  • #705
<modsnip> IMO: It is not clear what if any bicycle existed accept for all the news articles published on the internet stating the following facts according to the news media providing information on the bicycle in the SM case. 1) SM went for a bicycle ride on Mothers Day. 2. LE found her bicycle, along with some of her scattered belongings a short distance from her house. 3. SM's nephew TN pleaded to the general public to please ask the Chaffee County sheriff what condition SM's bicycle was in when it was found. Based on the above information that has been published in numerous news articles, it is my opinion that something of major consequence happened to SM and her bicycle. IMO, the bicycle is a key piece of evidence in this case. For reasons I have already stated, I do not thing TN would go public urging everyone to contact the sheriff about the condition of the bicycle if the bicycle was simply staged or the bicycle didn't belong to SM. <modsnip>there have been homicide cases of females getting hit by a vehicle (while bicycling) for the purpose of raping and/or killing them <modsnip> I hope this isn't what happened to SM but based on the published news media articles, I think it is quite possible that SM was hit by a vehicle and then abducted.
 
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  • #706
I need to re-post my previous reply to poster Holl...regarding the issue of the bicycle...because a moderator here deleted it. So, I hope my new post doesn't get deleted again as I try to state the current facts about the bicycle in this case while offering my IMO: It is not clear what if any bicycle existed accept for all the news articles published on the internet stating the following facts according to the news media providing information on the bicycle in the SM case. 1) SM went for a bicycle ride on Mothers Day. 2. LE found her bicycle, along with some of her scattered belongings a short distance from her house. 3. SM's nephew TN pleaded to the general public to please ask the Chaffee County sheriff what condition SM's bicycle was in when it was found. Based on the above information that has been published in numerous news articles, it is my opinion that something of major consequence happened to SM and her bicycle. IMO, the bicycle is a key piece of evidence in this case. For reasons I have already stated, I do not thing TN would go public urging everyone to contact the sheriff about the condition of the bicycle if the bicycle was simply staged or the bicycle didn't belong to SM. I made reference in my previous moderator deleted post that there have been homicide cases of females getting hit by a vehicle (while bicycling) for the purpose of raping and/or killing them, and I cited a case that I am familiar with as an example. I hope this isn't what happened to SM but based on the published news media articles, I think it is quite possible that SM was hit by a vehicle and then abducted.
You make a good point. However listening to Dad with a phone, I think if BM knew the condition of the bike as he indicated in the video “the bike was found ... with the wheels turned“... (abrupt stop) he would have seized upon the story to ‘Dad’ and would have stopped pushing his ridiculous cat theory.
 
  • #707
Does anyone have a map that shows the location of TD and BM’s conversation? I’m trying to orient that spot with the family home and the spot where the personal items were found.

TIA
 
  • #708
<modsnip> IMO: It is not clear what if any bicycle existed accept for all the news articles published on the internet stating the following facts according to the news media providing information on the bicycle in the SM case. 1) SM went for a bicycle ride on Mothers Day. 2. LE found her bicycle, along with some of her scattered belongings a short distance from her house. 3. SM's nephew TN pleaded to the general public to please ask the Chaffee County sheriff what condition SM's bicycle was in when it was found. Based on the above information that has been published in numerous news articles, it is my opinion that something of major consequence happened to SM and her bicycle. IMO, the bicycle is a key piece of evidence in this case. For reasons I have already stated, I do not thing TN would go public urging everyone to contact the sheriff about the condition of the bicycle if the bicycle was simply staged or the bicycle didn't belong to SM. <modsnip>there have been homicide cases of females getting hit by a vehicle (while bicycling) for the purpose of raping and/or killing them <modsnip> I hope this isn't what happened to SM but based on the published news media articles, I think it is quite possible that SM was hit by a vehicle and then abducted.

ITA, The map is very helpful, and given the speed of traffic on that road, therefore an accidental hit, w/ panic is more logical than any of our others. While the helmet may have protected her head, is it possible a broken neck could have lead to her death, when she was moved? The driver may have truly intended to take her to hospital, and then realized she was dead. I need to look over that map, IMO it’s the key.
 
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  • #709
Even if the bike was mangled, that does not mean it wasn’t staged. A person who was trying to stage the bike could run it over in their driveway, toss it in the back of the pickup truck, drive a bit, and then hurl it down into the brush. The person could then proceed down the road and toss some belongings out, perhaps on their way out of town. Just my opinion.
 
  • #710
<modsnip> IMO: It is not clear what if any bicycle existed accept for all the news articles published on the internet stating the following facts according to the news media providing information on the bicycle in the SM case. 1) SM went for a bicycle ride on Mothers Day. 2. LE found her bicycle, along with some of her scattered belongings a short distance from her house. 3. SM's nephew TN pleaded to the general public to please ask the Chaffee County sheriff what condition SM's bicycle was in when it was found. Based on the above information that has been published in numerous news articles, it is my opinion that something of major consequence happened to SM and her bicycle. IMO, the bicycle is a key piece of evidence in this case. For reasons I have already stated, I do not thing TN would go public urging everyone to contact the sheriff about the condition of the bicycle if the bicycle was simply staged or the bicycle didn't belong to SM. <modsnip>there have been homicide cases of females getting hit by a vehicle (while bicycling) for the purpose of raping and/or killing them <modsnip> I hope this isn't what happened to SM but based on the published news media articles, I think it is quite possible that SM was hit by a vehicle and then abducted.

BBM

Can you explain what you mean about the bolded part?

If the bicycle was staged, I wouldn’t think that TN would know it was staged. I think he’d believe it was left there by SM after something bad happened.

MOO
 
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  • #711
ITA, The map is very helpful, and given the speed of traffic on that road, therefore an accidental hit, w/ panic is more logical than any of our others. While the helmet may have protected her head, is it possible a broken neck could have lead to her death, when she was moved? The driver may have truly intended to take her to hospital, and then realized she was dead. I need to look over that map, IMO it’s the key.

Can you please post a link for the map? I’ve been trying to find one that shows the location where TD and BM spoke in the video along the road.
 
  • #712
You make a good point. However listening to Dad with a phone, I think if BM knew the condition of the bike as he indicated in the video “the bike was found ... with the wheels turned“... (abrupt stop) he would have seized upon the story to ‘Dad’ and would have stopped pushing his ridiculous cat theory.
My take on BLM's abruptly stopping himself from further talking about the bicycle--giving more details on how it looked when it was found, is because the bicycle evidence plays a key part in SM's disappearance. IMO, LE told BLM and TN not to discuss publicly the bicycle at all anymore, otherwise they both risked jeopardizing the investigation.
 
  • #713
I can't find any mention of what type bicycle Suzanne was allegedly riding. Road bike or mountain bike. Per this map, it appears the personal item(s) was found on the highway.

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This was the earliest map used by CrimeOnLine and other reliable MSM. It starts at the neighbor's house and ends on the EAST side of the intersection of Hwy 50 and CR 225. It's kind of amazing how rapidly perceptions change during the development of a case. In this one, I am finding that a lot on MSM information that was cited early on, and is the basis of some opinions of what happened, has been scrubbed.
I've seen some investigations go completely off the rails. Unfortunately it sometimes happens. I can't ever recall an investigation that has been so infused with seemingly accurate information that simply does not stand the test of time, yet seems to be moving forward as it should. IMO
 
  • #714
<modsnip> IMO: It is not clear what if any bicycle existed accept for all the news articles published on the internet stating the following facts according to the news media providing information on the bicycle in the SM case. 1) SM went for a bicycle ride on Mothers Day. 2. LE found her bicycle, along with some of her scattered belongings a short distance from her house. 3. SM's nephew TN pleaded to the general public to please ask the Chaffee County sheriff what condition SM's bicycle was in when it was found. Based on the above information that has been published in numerous news articles, it is my opinion that something of major consequence happened to SM and her bicycle. IMO, the bicycle is a key piece of evidence in this case. For reasons I have already stated, I do not thing TN would go public urging everyone to contact the sheriff about the condition of the bicycle if the bicycle was simply staged or the bicycle didn't belong to SM. <modsnip>there have been homicide cases of females getting hit by a vehicle (while bicycling) for the purpose of raping and/or killing them <modsnip> I hope this isn't what happened to SM but based on the published news media articles, I think it is quite possible that SM was hit by a vehicle and then abducted.
A cursory Google search turns up a surprising number of "hit the bike/abduct the woman" stories. Some of them lived, some of them didn't, and some were never found. I certainly don't rule that out in SM's case, and that would also cause LE to lock everything down in order to hide what they know for a while.
 
  • #715
IMO, the driver may have realized SMs phone or fit bit, would track her so they dumped it, this could tell us the direction driver was headed, if nothing else.
It’s also possible, there was a near miss, but SM jerked off road to avoid an accident, and was injured in that attempt, no injury to the bike.
I can’t figure why the condition of the bike is such a secret, other than simply a tool to rule out false confessions, and my brain has called a time out.
LE has BMs knowledge or prior knowledge, documented, therefore if he were guilty or hired someone, this is a moot point. Why not put out the condition of the bike?... hmmmm
 
  • #716
Can you please post a link for the map? I’ve been trying to find one that shows the location where TD and BM spoke in the video along the road.
Watch the video. TD says he is on CR 225. He even shows us the road marker, near the bridge. When he meets up with BLM, occasionally you can clearly see the sign in the back that says "Y". It's the only "Y" in CR225. The camera flops all around, giving a lot of views, but at no time can you see the sides of the bridge over Fooses Creek. That means the bridge has to be well around the bend in the road. Plug all of that worthless information and you have exactly where they were standing, give or take twenty feet . IMO
To be sure, I checked it against the videos taken by AI. It all fits. IMO
(I'm proud of myself! I entered that whole explanation and never once used the word "geo-location"!) also MOO
 
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My take on BLM's abruptly stopping himself from further talking about the bicycle--giving more details on how it looked when it was found, is because the bicycle evidence plays a key part in SM's disappearance. IMO, LE told BLM and TN not to discuss publicly the bicycle at all anymore, otherwise they both risked jeopardizing the investigation.
It appears BM did not take their advice :rolleyes:

Regardless, I agree, the bike is a “key” piece of evidence whether it actually got there on it’s two wheels or someone placed it there to stage an accident or abduction. My money is on there never having been any bike ride on MD. I suspect BM neglected to to think of every little detail needed to stage such an event and LE discovered that very early on.
 
  • #718
The two young people who knew them best and lived with them, likely hold the key.

If they lived with them.
 
  • #719
Mountain biking is very different than typical roadway, pavement or cement trails and the bicycle has gearing for steep uphill climbs and descents. Thick knobby tires for mud and gravel as opposed to smooth road tires. Her home was only a short dirt road ride to the Colorado Trail system. No need to be on the highway and would be avoided on her type of bicycle
We don't know what type of tires she had her on bicycle...I bought my first custom made mountain bike from Gary Fisher in 1982, and rode it on long distance bicycle rides (over 90 miles a day)...on both highways and off road terrain...using a cross tire (a knobby mountain bike tire with a center bead) that allowed for off road riding stability, while rolling smoothly on highways. IMO, most mountain bike riders do ride on the highway and off road, while road bicyclists stay only on the road.
 
  • #720
It appears BM did not take their advice :rolleyes:

Regardless, I agree, the bike is a “key” piece of evidence whether it actually got there on it’s two wheels or someone placed it there to stage an accident or abduction. My money is on there never having been any bike ride on MD. I suspect BM neglected to to think of every little detail needed to stage such an event and LE discovered that very early on.
If we're wagering, my money is on that, too. But I have to say I was aghast at how many abductions there were where a woman or child disappeared while biking, with the bike being found in a mangled condition.
 
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