Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #17

[Madeleine74]

Don't ya think LE is busy behind the scenes pursuing their
target right now and family may have gotten wind of what's going on so therefore nobody has a "need" of additional media coverage. ??
That's what I'm reading.

Totally agree with that.

 

[MsBetsy]

Yes. So they may have started profiling in general and then ended up in a specific direction that pointed toward intimate partner violence?

No, that wasn't what I meant to say.

I was referring to the OP which discussed FBI profiling first used in the eighties to find serial killers. As far as I know it's still the basis for what's used to find a certain type of suspect. The organized/ disorganized classification is usually a major part of profiling.

But since the first step is analyzing crime scenes and victims, I guess they probably would not start out that way. The OP mentioned a case with about 30 victims, if I remember correctly, and in this case there is only one victim and no crime scene.

If they already have evidence that points to the husband as the suspect then they wouldn't need to look for an unknown suspect. I would think they would just continue to follow leads and investigate him.

LE may not have ruled out the possibility of a random abduction or murder so it could be that they are looking for a certain type of killer.

It seems to me they have been focusing on one suspect from the beginning. But that could turn out to be completely wrong. They may have several suspects, or none at all.

Imo

 

[FelicityLemon]

Say what you will about the DM, at least they are attempting to continue awareness of a missing person. More than anyone involved seems to be doing.

I suspect that any continued awareness aspect of the DM's article is purely a bi-product of their desire to get views and visits to the website. If they truly were trying, they'd do their own research and at the very least, use some updated and correct information instead of regurgitating misinformation.

When I say 'research' I don't mean copying from their previously published reports.

If they actually had tried to interview LE, they would have gotten the same information that Lauren Scharf did - nothing. No matter how hard she tried (and she did!) nobody was talking.

 

[enelram]

I can see we're circling back around a bit. I think the idea of her being lured into the great outdoors has been floated before. I'd actually forgotten about it until now.

Yep, you could go for a nice ride in the spring sunshine, a little picnic after a short hike. Bottle of wine, a blanket. Quite cosy. With or without a mine shaft nearby.

IMO

yes, yes, and remember Patrick Frazee lured
Kelsey out the night before he murdered her,
by telling her he needed help w/ a sick cow.
for some reason he didn't do the deed til next day.
Another smart genius who thought he outwitted the world similar to BM, and also remember PF already had Kelsey's replacement in place before he killed Kelsey.
didn't we call PF a selfish narcissist also?

My, so many of these intimate partner murderers have a lot in common, don't they?

 

[kay74]

No, that wasn't what I meant to say.

I was referring to the OP which discussed FBI profiling first used in the eighties to find serial killers. As far as I know it's still the basis for what's used to find a certain type of suspect. The organized/ disorganized classification is usually a major part of profiling.

But since the first step is analyzing crime scenes and victims, I guess they probably would not start out that way. The OP mentioned a case with about 30 victims, if I remember correctly, and in this case there is only one victim and no crime scene.


If they already have evidence that points to the husband as the suspect then they wouldn't need to look for an unknown suspect. I would think they would just continue to follow leads and investigate him.

LE may not have ruled out the possibility of a random abduction or murder so it could be that they are looking for a certain type of killer.

It seems to me they have been focusing on one suspect from the beginning. But that could turn out to be completely wrong. They may have several suspects, or none at all.

Imo

BBM: I go for none at all.

 

[LietKynes]

I'm afraid that may be what happened and, sad to say, she won't be found. I wonder if BM was hauling any earth-moving equipment on his trip to Denver?

Good point.
If he did, there'd be a gps showing up on his truck, correct ?
Which makes sense that there haven't been many updates at all -- LE and the FBI and CBI are busy sifting through mountains of evidence from phone pings to gps to possible friend's or coworker's testimony.
These things take time.

It's hard to be patient but we'll wait as long as it takes for justice for Suzanne.
Imo.

 

[al66pine]

Five Years before Life Ins Co. Pays $?

Seven years??!! ... then he would need her body to be found. Well so much for life insurance money as a main motive....

sbm @Lilypad13 sbm In Colorado, it could be 5 years for MisPers imo. I hope this, using cut & paste from my two posts, helps explain:
MisPers & Life Ins Claims? post 469
When an insured person goes missing & beneficiary assumes that MisPers to be dead, beneficiary will/ can file a death claim w ins co. If ins co doesn’t think the (not-yet-in-court) case is strong enough to presume MisPers is dead and denies the claim, beneficiary can:
---Petition the court to declare MisPers dead.
---Sue ins co. for death benefit.
Presumed Dead? post 473
Colorado. If no 'regular' death certificate, per (b)* below, then if MisPers is absent for five years, beneficiary can begin procedure, for ct to make a determination of presumed death, per (e)** below. After ct procedure & finding of sufficient evd to declare MisPers dead, then beneficiary would have a document (a ct order and/or death cert, I'm not sure in CO.) to send to w claim to life ins co.
BTW, life ins. claim is handled separately from MisPers' probate proceeding, unless the MisPers' estate is designated as policy's beneficiary. As always, I welcome comment, clarification, correction, esp'ly from our legal professionals. jmo

.....................................................................................................................................
Colorado Statute. 15-10-107. Evidence of death or status
"...relating to a court determination of death and status apply:...
* (b)... a death certificate ... is prima facie evidence of the fact, place, date, and time of death and the identity of the decedent.
(c) ... any record ...of a governmental agency,... an individual is missing, detained, dead, or alive is prima facie evidence of the status ... dates, circumstances, and places disclosed by the record or report.
(d) ...absence of prima facie evidence of death [...(b) or (c)...] (1), the fact of death shall be established by clear and convincing evidence, including circumstantial evidence.
** (e) An individual [whose death is not established ...(a) to (d) or ...] who is absent for a continuous period of five years, during which he or she has not been heard from, and whose absence is not satisfactorily explained after diligent search or inquiry, is presumed to be dead. His or her death is presumed to have occurred at the end of the period ...." bbm ubm rbm

 

[10ofRods]

Maybe she was lured on a hike to a remote location where there were several mineshafts nearby. That would be a better plan than harming your spouse inside of your home. JMO

I dunno, some of the theories here have convinced me that a drowning at home would be a possibility. Killers don't like to be seen and are more likely to commit crimes in familiar places. Of course, there could have been some familiar outdoor place, too.

I like to keep in mind that his truck had GPS that can't be disabled, so there are clues there. I assume LE has also looked at Suzanne's car.

Somehow, I just keep thinking that LE has a good idea of where certain things happened and have searched those areas.

 

[MassGuy]

When someone close to you has mysteriously disappeared, silence is the enemy of finding her. Look at the Vanessa Guillen case, or that of any other missing person. The family fights tooth and nail to keep the case in the spotlight.

The onus is on BM here, and to say that he is failing miserably is the understatement of the century. It sure would be nice if he could find the time to, you know, help find his damn wife.

 

[Feistyomi]

You have made such excellent points@McBetsy. The actual evidence of the Ms marriage situation and reasons for their move to CO are truly known only to the Ms, no matter how we may speculate.JMO However, the little bits and pieces we have since their move, continue to show them to be a happy, loving couple. Anything else is our speculation thru the lens of the internet. JMVHO

Perhaps answered previously - I'm sure they have looked but has anyone mentioned any abandoned wells, mines, or other locations ideal for the disposal of a body or remains? I mean, she didn't disappear, alive or dead, she is somewhere and apparently not in an obvious location. It's a big area I'm sure (not really familiar with Colorado topography, etc.) but she should eventually turn up somewhere. I don't believe she has left of her own will so someone knows or has seen something out of the ordinary in that area. If I owned property there, I'd be looking all along the most obvious routes away from the home and the bike.

I started looking at the mines?! There are mines everywhere, even one fairly close to the Ms. You can’t tell much from Google Earth, so not too much WE can do, but IMO, these have been checked out by now. We had one case here, in SC, where a teenager was held in a small underground bunker. She actually kept her wits and escaped, THAT’S rare, but it happens. Then we had our Todd Kohlhepp, who kept the young woman in some sort of storage container. For months...she survived.
I think SM is not in the mines, at least the ones on the lists, caves maybe. Lots of wilderness, out there. I believe he is somewhere near an area he has lived before that has old abandoned sheds or buildings, off the beaten path, close and familiarIMO

 

[rainbowshummingbird]

BBM:

Sure! Just ask Barbara Thomas' husband.

Once again, the ugly similarities between the two cases are hard to ignore.

"No questions asked."

Sorry, guys: That ain't how it works.

I'm going to keep asking questions…the fact that neither husband is answering them, notwithstanding.

JMO.

It’s interesting that Robert Thomas openly admitted to MSM that he failed the polygraph. Why did he do that? Is it like reverse psychology, he’s indicating that he’s so honest and innocent, and that’s why he’s transparently discussing his failed polygraph?

 

[LietKynes]

I think someone else brought this up... since Suzanne supposedly went for the 'bike ride'; that's exactly where LE are probably not searching as she couldn't get that far esp. if it was a brief, leisurely ride.

So maybe they're searching for clues anywhere from her home to Denver ?

This is nitpicky and it's not important, but I wish the thread title could just say " CO Suzanne Morphew missing from her home ." or words to that effect.
Because by now it looks almost certain that there was no ride that day.

LE's asking people to save their footage from the 8th sealed it for me.
My guess is that no one saw her in person from that day on.
Imo​

 

[MsBetsy]

Good point.
If he did, there'd be a gps showing up on his truck, correct ?
Which makes sense that there haven't been many updates at all -- LE and the FBI and CBI are busy sifting through mountains of evidence from phone pings to gps to possible friend's or coworker's testimony.
These things take time.

It's hard to be patient but we'll wait as long as it takes for justice for Suzanne.
Imo.

I remember someone said his truck definitely has GPS. If that's the case, LE must know everywhere the truck has been in the days before SM was reported missing and ever since.

Is that right? Unless it was disabled? I'm not sure how that works. Is it more accurate than cell phone data? I know there are spots where there is no service so would that affect the GPS on the truck as well?

 

[Nerissa]

I think someone else brought this up... since Suzanne supposedly went for the 'bike ride'; that's exactly where LE are probably not searching as she couldn't get that far esp. if it was a brief, leisurely ride.

So maybe they're searching for clues anywhere from her home to Denver ?

This is nitpicky and it's not important, but I wish the thread title could just say " CO Suzanne Morphew missing from her home ." or words to that effect.
Because by now it looks almost certain that there was no ride that day.

LE's asking people to save their footage from the 8th sealed it for me.
My guess is that no one saw her in person from that day on.
Imo​

Great minds & all: 'cause that's exactly what I've been thinking - this bike ride thingy. It's not confirmed.

Even a DailyMail article had as it's headline that no one saw SM on that bike ride & yet the first sentence was something to the effect: SM, not seen since mother's day after heading out for a bike ride.
ARGH!

Absolutely utterly nothing zero nada zilch has been handled in this case as LE usually would in a missing person's case

JMO
ETA link Suzanne Morphew's husband was paid to lay dirt at the building site Colorado cops are searching | Daily Mail Online

 

[rainbowshummingbird]

I dunno, some of the theories here have convinced me that a drowning at home would be a possibility. Killers don't like to be seen and are more likely to commit crimes in familiar places. Of course, there could have been some familiar outdoor place, too.

I like to keep in mind that his truck had GPS that can't be disabled, so there are clues there. I assume LE has also looked at Suzanne's car.

Somehow, I just keep thinking that LE has a good idea of where certain things happened and have searched those areas.

You’re right 10ofRods, even I think my theory on that is far fetched. Possibly I am stir crazy from lack of information.

 

[Boxer]

When was the last time she was seen ?
And why is that a hard question!
If it was Saturday, it was Saturday.
Did BM say he
got up and left while she was asleep on Sunday, why not say that?

 

[Midwestmom2019]

BBM:

Sure! Just ask Barbara Thomas' husband.

Once again, the ugly similarities between the two cases are hard to ignore.

"No questions asked."

Sorry, guys: That ain't how it works.

I'm going to keep asking questions…the fact that neither husband is answering them, notwithstanding.

JMO.

There’s only so many ways to skin a cat....Or dispose of a body or leave your lover. Just drop off the key, Lee. The bigger the tree the harder they fall. I hope they can hear him screaming TIMBER!!!!!! all the way to Indiana when they finally cut him down to size.

 

[Nerissa]

Just going to say again, since deleted previously because did not have a link:

LE does not typically bar family members from entering the house of a missing person mere hours after they've been reported missing......

DM reported that BM indeed had not been in the residence since his return from Denver....

Police and FBI wrap up search at property where missing mom Suzanne Morphew's husband worked | Daily Mail Online

Home of missing Chaffee County woman released back to family

Family was not allowed in until the 26th of May

This ain't normal folks

& I've every confidence in LE they know what went down

We've a stupid perp who thinks they are all that & a cuppa too

JMO

 

[Midwestmom2019]

I remember someone said his truck definitely has GPS. If that's the case, LE must know everywhere the truck has been in the days before SM was reported missing and ever since.

Is that right? Unless it was disabled? I'm not sure how that works. Is it more accurate than cell phone data? I know there are spots where there is no service so would that affect the GPS on the truck as well?

When that young mom went missing in Montana or Idaho, with GPS and no pings, I read up on the stuff. You can disable it by not paying the bill, call them up and say, turn the thing off. But to REALLY kill it, you have to get underneath the hood, stick your hand way deep and pull the plug out from the system. Other wise, they can find you even if it’s off. Not paid. Like in an emergency, bill paid or not, you can call for help. Or lost, can be tracked bc the service is turned on remotely. Or off. Or under the hood. So. You have to have the equipment. And it has to be connected and remain connected, like hard wired, I’d say, to be able to use it. Now, whether GPS can track after the fact while it was turned off remotely but not unplugged? Or what if it’s turned off in the truck, but on remotely. I don’t know. But I’d bet it can do that but it is not revealed to the public. Big brother and all that privacy stuff. Sometimes we forget the simplest things.

 

[10ofRods]

BBM:

Sure! Just ask Barbara Thomas' husband.

Once again, the ugly similarities between the two cases are hard to ignore.

"No questions asked."

Sorry, guys: That ain't how it works.

I'm going to keep asking questions…the fact that neither husband is answering them, notwithstanding.

JMO.

I am so glad you posted this. It's another case where the main strangeness, at this point, is that no one in the family or friend circle seems to want or need publicity for this case. It's as if no one expects their beloved wife/mother to come back. Whatever the theories of family and friends, those theories don't involve wanting the public to BOLO.

In Barbara's case, we had a verified insider/family member who really did try. He managed to get a press release from the family into the news at about 2 months out. There was one follow-up from a Las Vegas TV station (arranged by WSers, actually).

In this case, there's nothing. It's uncannily like Barb's case, except without the devoted nephew. And in Barb's case, the son made his theories public and managed to get an interview with a station local to him (he lived thousands of miles away from where she is supposed to have disappeared). I have contacted local reporters on that one, they've called LE (one lives right across the street from the station) and...::crickets::