Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #17

[Gigi3]

I am not asking for a media tour, but something MORE than the "oh suzanne" missive. Something other than "too soon" yet willingness to talk it up to a stranger, rather than making another public appeal. His stance/actions requires cognitive dissonance on his part, and this is difficult for me to put aside. That being said, I would not make an impartial juror.

I’m with you LOL.
After all, this is a missing person case right? I guess I would expect a little more information to go on? Instead of the silence. MOO

 

[al66pine]

Life Ins Policy Contestability Period

A colleague of mine who works in the insurance field once told me that life insurance policies often have a two-year contestability period. The life insurance company could investigate for two years before paying if there is any indication of foul play....

@lamlawindy sbm So your thought is -- Life ins co. could withhold/delay paying death benefit to designated beneficiary, while LE investigates possible criminal actions (foul play) leading to the (as of yet, hypothetical) death? Yes? No? @lamlawindy ? TiA

Aaaaand a litle bit more on this: Life ins co. could withhold/postpone paying benefits, pending company's investigation seeking possible misrep's on application for policy, per below.
Contract terms
"... Any misrepresentations by the insured on the application may also be grounds for nullification. Most US states specify a maximum contestability period, often no more than two years. Only if the insured dies within this period will the insurer have a legal right to contest the claim on the basis of misrepresentation and request additional information before deciding whether to pay or deny the claim." ^ Life insurance - Wikipedia

 

[Minordetails]

On a scale of 1 - 10, I wonder where BM would rank the probability of himself being arrested in the next 6 months?

 

[Deleted member 267005]

On a scale of 1 - 10, I wonder where BM would rank the probability of himself being arrested in the next 6 months?

I am going out on a limb and guessing 'negative 5'. Overconfidence is a killer! no pun intended, IMO.

 

[Madeleine74]

With all due respect, I do not disagree with your last paragraph, although I do detect some condemnation. I too want to see justice served both HOT and COLD in this case. You asked 'why do WE need more?' If it is "all about LE solving the case, what are YOU doing here? Really, I am not trying to be a jerk, I just took your response as a bit odd.

IMO

I saw first-hand the other side of a missing person/murder case, specifically as it affected the family and friends of the murder victim. I have a lot of empathy for the people who are on a very sad journey waiting for a loved one to be found and dealing with the grief, and then confronting the circus that tends to form, with reporters, social media, rumors, and all of it.

And because I've followed numerous cases over 2 decades, I already know that LE keeps things close to the vest and that's the way it is and there are good reasons for that silence. I respect that.

 

[Minordetails]

I am going out on a limb and guessing 'negative 5'. Overconfidence is a killer! no pun intended, IMO.

And yet he has chosen to stay out of the spotlight... ? I don’t know. Is he scared? Is he smart? Is he innocent?

 

[Feistyomi]

Oh, I agree that husbands definitely kill their wives, and I follow too much true crime not to be skeptical.

However, I’m used to seeing the husband/family standing together alongside LE at press conferences and such. I don’t think I’ve ever seen the lone social media plea put out without LE and nothing more. It’s just baffling to me.
JMO

You are absolutely correct, I think they know exactly who it is. Not BM!
IMO, The BAD GUY is a local character, who drifts in and out of town. He’s a bit of a loose cannon, so everyone is keeping a low profile. LE is going thru every scrap of information they have on him and here’s the real scoop. The locals know he could be the one, and they ARE on high alert. He’s lived all over the place, almost as many places as there are mines.
BOTH SM and the BG are missing, they could be together somewhere. This is speculation on my part.

 

[10ofRods]

2 to 3 hours away would still be much better than halfway across the country.

Her school is in Chaffee County, per Suzanne's social media. It's easy to find, it's an hour away from the family home.

 

[Deleted member 267005]

IMO

I have a unique perspective since I saw first-hand the other side of a missing person/murder case, specifically as it affected the family and friends of the murder victim. I have a lot of empathy for the people who are on a very sad journey waiting for a loved one to be found and dealing with the grief, and then confronting the circus that tends to form, with reporters, social media, rumors, and all of it.

And because I've followed numerous cases over 2 decades, I already know that LE keeps things close to the vest and that's the way it is and there are good reasons for that silence. I respect that.

As do I, the widow of someone murdered.

 

[Madeleine74]

dbm

 

[10ofRods]

Don’t you guys believe he has some beater trucks for his landscaping biz? Probably older with no GPS to worry about? MOO

Nope. I don't think he even had much of a 'landscaping biz.' I think he rented some basic equipment and bid on small jobs, all his "workers" were solo subcontractors and they had their own trucks. That's my belief, from what I've seen. It's just a hunch.

 

[Feistyomi]

As do I, the widow of someone murdered.

So sorry to both of you, prayers.

 

[Deleted member 267005]

So sorry to both of you, prayers.

It was long ago, but still present in every thought I have. Thank you for your thoughts and prayers. Truly.

 

[Minordetails]

You are absolutely correct, I think they know exactly who it is. Not BM!
IMO, The BAD GUY is a local character, who drifts in and out of town. He’s a bit of a loose cannon, so everyone is keeping a low profile. LE is going thru every scrap of information they have on him and here’s the real scoop. The locals know he could be the one, and they ARE on high alert. He’s lived all over the place, almost as many places as there are mines.
BOTH SM and the BG are missing, they could be together somewhere. This is speculation on my part.

Given the obvious alternative narrative, I would welcome this outcome.

 

[vaporlass]

LE failure to warn residents. Irresponsible?
@vaporlass bbm Ppl post the ^ on some threads, but such a warning seems virtually pointless to me. A 'dangerous person is always stalking/prowling & killing' someone, somewhere, sometimes. In fact, dangerous people, plural. All over the US.
On virtually every episode of Dateline NBC, Keith Morrison says: The grisly death of this vibrant young woman/perky, tennis playing grandmother took place in a neighborhood/town/city where residents don't lock doors of their houses or cars. Oh really, in the twenty-first century? Maybe I'm a knucklehead for not having LE/FD monitored security system in the home, but how hard is it to lock doors, etc?
If a family/household habitually does not lock doors, etc., why would they start taking safety measures after LE warning? Okay, okay, different comfort levels about locks, personal safety zones & measures.
But let's say tonight CCSO/LE arrests the Bad Guy for SM's disappearance/injury/death, then is it no longer advisable to lock doors, etc, because one BG is in jail, off the streets? What about allll the other BGs out there? End of rant, jmo. lol.

I do NOT consider LE irresponsible at all. But, I would expect a warning if LE thought there was someone in the vicinity abducting people, yep, yes I would... I don’t think there are that many STRANGERS out stalking and murdering people, but I think there are a lot of people getting killed by someone they know... which is quite different and would certainly NOT require a warning (which is my point) if I went back to the Hot Springs in Salida.
I’m not expecting anyone to get on a loud speaker, a newspaper article would be enough to warn me to be more aware and careful while vacationing.

 

[fcavanaugh]

As do I, the widow of someone murdered.

I am so very sorry for your loss.

 

[Dave F.]

Given the obvious alternative narrative, I would welcome this outcome.

I think there is a very good chance @Feistyomi is onto something that addresses those pesky questions of what, where, how and why.
What is it now? Forty-six days into the investigation? Watts, Frazee and Stauch were all past the arrest and into hearings by that milepost.
This case does not appear to me that it is going to be a slam dunk. IMO

 

[vaporlass]

purple bolding mine

@al66pine : Good post. ^^^
We don't have to agree -- but I think we already are in agreement.
The actual identity doesn't have to be revealed and in fact I think it should be withheld until (hopefully) an arrest is made.
That's if there's been foul play, and I sadly think that's happened as I don't see Suzanne letting her girls wait and be in anguish this long.

My .02 : Is that the specific identity is not necessary to warn the public of, no.
Esp. if it's just a poi or someone LE are concerned about at that time.
So that's not what I was saying -- but I could have clarified the comment a bit better.

A BOLO could encompass anyone from a stalker to a random abductor to a person possibly known to the Morphews'.
Not the "who", just that LE believe she was kidnapped.

If LE believe someone took Suzanne I do think the public should be warned that they think she was abducted.
A 'be on the alert' if nothing else.

Along with a description of when she was last seen outside of the family and also what she was wearing.

The fact that LE haven't described her bike, where it was located, and its' condition is troubling.
The silence makes it appear that LE don't think this is what happened.

So, no danger to the public at large as in LE think whatever may have happened to Suzanne was within her circle of family or acquaintances.
Not just persons known to Suzanne, but to her husband as well.

Sorry if that wasn't clear.

But even IF LE think she was abducted... would it be premature to tell the public to be on the lookout for Suzanne ?
My .02 is no and for other missing persons cases there was a final photo and in some cases a "last seen here" video.

ITA. Thank you for clarifying my opinions as well.

 

[Murphy1950]

Word. I would not listen to a SOUL if my child/mate were "missing". I would gladly offer myself up for 'sacrifice' and any/all public scrutiny. I don't know a single 'innocent' soul that would handle it differently. It would be all emotion, 24/7, and screaming from the rooftops, giving up all privacy to find my loved one.

The world would stop from the second of their disappearance. No real estate deals, not even if initiated before the 'disappearance'. I am befuddled, really, at how ANY semblance of business transactions, normal life, etc. could occur so close to a disappearance.

I cannot get past the following:

"Too soon..."

"Oh Suzanne..."

What? Nothing I could say would be "too soon" and "oh suzanne?!?" still SOOOO weird to me to start off like that. I CANNOT discount the tone of his voice in the "Oh Suzanne..." almost if placing blame on dear SM. IMO, as always. I have ZERO insight into this case, and can only comment from personal opinion.

Never 'too soon' to say, "I love you, I miss you, please come home", "give me my wife back", "i hate pumas", or whatever the sentiment may be...

Thought about it but couldn't snip this comment , it's just too perfect . Many Meows

 

[rainbowshummingbird]

I legit HATE agreeing w/ ANYone who has TB as a prof pic, but I will make an exception in your case.

If only there was a way to block the pic without blocking the user.