Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #18

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IMO, LE controlling the narrative would make more sense, especially if CBI and FBI are involved. Although, If it WERE BM and the family distrusts him, we’d probably have lots of leaks, hmmmmm!

BAD GUY=BG I couldn’t be all Criminal minds, unsub, I’m open for suggestions?
I am only on my second case here, didn’t mean to be confusing, sorry?!
bbm

I will agree with you on the "leaks"... would love to hear what Suzanne's family is really thinking !

My opinion only -- is that LE have said little to the family and for some it's frustrating since the people who truly love and miss Suzanne have to be in such anguish. :(
Or ... what LE said have the family in grief already and this is why they're not clamoring for her rescue ?
As in they understand she may not be coming home ?

Hoping they can be comforted knowing LE, CBI, and the FBI are working on this case diligently--- just away from the public and people giving out information in spontaneous interviews.
MOO
 
Interesting that the Sheriff hasn't asked for tips lately - the last posting was June 10. I guess they have what they need from the public by now?? 7 weeks - no active searches....Where can she be??
JMO
There may still be searches, and we just aren’t aware of them. One of their later press releases mentioned there had been 10 large-scale searches performed. We had no idea about most of those.
 
I don’t think we should assume SM was weak in any way. She was supposedly mountain biking.

49 and thin build doesn’t mean weak.

MOO

There was a fabulous photo on SM of Suzanne and her daughters. SM’s back was to the camera and her arms we kind of “up around” her daughters who were facing the camera. SM was wearing basically a backless dress, she was in incredible shape! Lean and muscular, her back muscles and arms were on point, beyond toned and honed! Clearly she spent a lot of time at the gym, Pilates or yoga, possibly ALL from the looks of her! Based on the daughter’s appearance, it was a recent photo- within last year (?)

Based solely on that photo, she’s not skinny, weak or frail. She’s super fit and dedicated to her health and fitness- and looked strong to me! Unless a multitude of things have transpired since that photo- none of which would allow her to mountain bike that challenging area. JMO

I keep thinking of that photo and others I’ve seen posted of her whenever it’s mentioned that she’s frail - you can still be what people may view as a “petite or tiny” woman YET be super strong, athletic and fierce! IME...:oops:
 
BBM:

Agree with the entire contents of the above post.

Focusing specifically on the bolded point:

BM appears to be quite anxious about that bike, doesn't he?

First, there's "family spokesperson" TN coming out and saying that the bike had been found, the fact that LE hadn't made that info public, notwithstanding.

Next, we have "family spokesperson" TN exhorting the public on the FB page to "Ask the sheriff about the condition of the bike!" or however he worded that missive.

Finally, we see/hear BM on video showing TD the spot where her bike was allegedly found, what position it was in when found, and complaining that "10 people touched the bike," that the Sheriff's Department "had screwed everything up," "they shouldn't have touched it," "should have left it," etc.

The bike was a staged prop.

Someone intended for LE to latch onto that bike, and chase it all the way down the labyrinthine rabbit hole.

Clearly, something stopped LE from following that script.

Based on all of the above, I'd say there's every indication that the fact LE's maintained radio silence about the bike definitely has BM rattled.

JMO.
BM is used to telling people what he wants them to do, and usually they do it. Only in this case, the investigators evaluate the situation based on evidence and what the circumstances tell them about who is and isn’t being truthful.

He thought that he was going to tell LE what happened: LOOK here’s the bike, LOOK here’s where Suzanne was abducted, and THIS is what happened to her.

LE hasn’t been persuaded by BM’s bike story. BM is taken aback by this because he’s used to getting his way. He’s shocked that there is this thing happening that he’s unable to bully or buy his way out of.

IMO
 
trying to catch up here. this is all so frustrating. so is it a known fact that she actually was seen on the bike that day or is that speculation? and why is le so quiet at the moment?
No, it’s not a fact that she went on a bike ride at all. In fact, many of us believe that the bike ride never occurred in the first place, and the bike was staged.

Using other recent high profile Colorado cases as a guide, the silence of law enforcement is indicative of one thing: they know this is a homicide, and not an abduction.

I think they have a prime suspect, and a rough picture of what occurred. As we don’t know what evidence they have, and because there is no body, I think this is going to take many months until we see a major development.
 
Yes, and despite his efforts, tidbits of his true nature have trickled out, however sparingly, both by family in IN via Crime Online and others through “alternate” media. Regardless, of whether he made SM disappear, his recent actions support the “not so nice” things said about him. He is a self absorbed individual, an “Ich Mensch,” as my mother would say. In BM’s world, he comes first. Life is about him, what he wants, what he needs. As long as you go along with his wishes, life is “good,” sort of, until you stand up to him and then I strongly suspect, it isn’t. That kind of control is malignant.

BBM

“The relative said they have never seen or heard about any specific issues in the Morphew’s marriage, and that the couple seemed happy. But they did indicate that Barry could be somewhat controlling.”

He’s been in charge of what happens for a long time,” they said.

“Barry always seemed to be a good guy and a supportive husband,” the relative said. “I’d be surprised if anything happened. But sometimes we don’t know people as well as we think we do.”

‘We’re in the dark’: Missing Suzanne Morphew’s family waits and worries two weeks after Colorado mom’s mysterious disappearance [EXCLUSIVE]

Well, it appears the relative KNEW he was controlling. I can only imagine what went on “behind closed doors!”
I hesitate to judge someone’s entire life on several comments made in these few interviews. Do we know the transcriptions are verbatim, word for word? Do we know the reporter didn’t ask leading questions to elicit the answer they wanted? Do we know of more than one display of temper? 52 yrs old. Perhaps the other party had a more extensive history of temper? IMO, these few comments are more likely an indication people not realizing that simply trying to be agreeable, rather than argumentative can be twisted. These few comments that have been speculated across our nation may be why others close to the Morphews ARE publicity shy. JMHO
 
BBM:

Agree with the entire contents of the above post.

Focusing specifically on the bolded point:

BM appears to be quite anxious about that bike, doesn't he?

First, there's "family spokesperson" TN coming out and saying that the bike had been found, the fact that LE hadn't made that info public, notwithstanding.

Next, we have "family spokesperson" TN exhorting the public on the FB page to "Ask the sheriff about the condition of the bike!" or however he worded that missive.

Finally, we see/hear BM on video showing TD the spot where her bike was allegedly found, what position it was in when found, and complaining that "10 people touched the bike," that the Sheriff's Department "had screwed everything up," "they shouldn't have touched it," "should have left it," etc.

The bike was a staged prop.

Someone intended for LE to latch onto that bike, and chase it all the way down the labyrinthine rabbit hole.

Clearly, something stopped LE from following that script.

Based on all of the above, I'd say there's every indication that the fact LE's maintained radio silence about the bike definitely has BM rattled.

JMO.
The bike was a staged prop. Your comment-

I've been reading up on spouse murderers and
2 common things LE sees are:

1. staged situations
2. POI distances himself from the area of murder. in other words, pretends they're in


Denver, totally out of town.
just throwin this out there.

moo
 
Yes a drifter, that's what I was thinking of. Saw her, what an opportunity and probably no struggle because she is thin and maybe even weak from cancer treatments. :(

I ride. If I was weak from cancer treatments I doubt I could. It’s a full body workout, going up and done hills, turning, etc.

I sweat hard and get sore muscles.
 
The bike was a staged prop. Your comment-

I've been reading up on spouse murderers and
2 common things LE sees are:

1. staged situations
2. POI distances himself from the area of murder. in other words, pretends they're in


Denver, totally out of town.
just throwin this out there.

moo
Exactly. The purpose of staging a scene is to direct the investigation away from where it would otherwise go (the spouse in this case).

There is no need for a random killer/abductor to do this, as their anonymity negates any need to misdirect. Besides that, they usually just want to get away from the scene.

Spouse killers almost invariably try to create distance:

“It couldn’t have been me because I have an alibi that puts me here.”
 
There may still be searches, and we just aren’t aware of them. One of their later press releases mentioned there had been 10 large-scale searches performed. We had no idea about most of those.
Yes that is true - apparently the CO reporters aren't nosing around up there where she "disappeared" either because they haven't reported anything lately - so if they are searching it would appear it's on the old QT - IMO.
I better go check out their tweets -
 
Ooh, what an interesting idea that it could be assumed by family and friends that they shouldn't speak because BM said it was what LE wanted!

I can't imagine that at least one of those people wouldn't directly contact LE and either ask if it was true or asked 'why', or asked for specifics such as "can't I just talk to _______ to get this out there?" Maybe trying to negotiate how they could help by asking the public for their help, or by just getting her name and face out there to remind people. I think they must be wondering the same things as people on this site.

I can't imagine all of them feel this way, but it's possible: no one wants to take a chance by speaking because a skilled interviewer or even a "very nice and sympathetic" reporter or journalist can relax someone into speaking about something they never wanted to talk about. It's too easy for some of us to let things slip. Skilled manipulation, grrr. BUT, not everyone is the same, so I still don't understand why no one (other than the occasional "anonymous" talking to non-msm) is talking to msm or even a single, specific and friendly journalist.

I understand that people are judgmental because no family or friends are making statements or giving interviews or making pleas, but adults generally make their own decisions. Either LE asked them not to speak and they're cooperating, or family and friends are making a choice to not speak and it might have nothing to do with whether or not a spouse may have asked them to keep schtum. It's just so hard for me to imagine that every single family member and friend has chosen not to speak unless they made that conscious choice.

It's not like there's a court order or credible threat of violence if they speak to media. I'm pretty sure we'd know about either one of those, but since everyone there is so quiet...

It's actually very impressive to me that so many people remain silent. Something's up.

There have to be criminal charges in order for there to be a court gag order. So yes we would know if there was one of those.
 
IMO, there was some degree of surveillance. My speculation is our Bad Guy saw her leave for ride, set up while she was on the trail, ambushed her on her way back, a little tired, but actually relaxed, on the home stretch.

Maybe. I’d think there would be at least a picture of a suspicious vehicle released by now if that were the case.

MOO
 
Ooh, what an interesting idea that it could be assumed by family and friends that they shouldn't speak because BM said it was what LE wanted!

I can't imagine that at least one of those people wouldn't directly contact LE and either ask if it was true or asked 'why', or asked for specifics such as "can't I just talk to _______ to get this out there?" Maybe trying to negotiate how they could help by asking the public for their help, or by just getting her name and face out there to remind people. I think they must be wondering the same things as people on this site.

I can't imagine all of them feel this way, but it's possible: no one wants to take a chance by speaking because a skilled interviewer or even a "very nice and sympathetic" reporter or journalist can relax someone into speaking about something they never wanted to talk about. It's too easy for some of us to let things slip. Skilled manipulation, grrr. BUT, not everyone is the same, so I still don't understand why no one (other than the occasional "anonymous" talking to non-msm) is talking to msm or even a single, specific and friendly journalist.

I understand that people are judgmental because no family or friends are making statements or giving interviews or making pleas, but adults generally make their own decisions. Either LE asked them not to speak and they're cooperating, or family and friends are making a choice to not speak and it might have nothing to do with whether or not a spouse may have asked them to keep schtum. It's just so hard for me to imagine that every single family member and friend has chosen not to speak unless they made that conscious choice.

It's not like there's a court order or credible threat of violence if they speak to media. I'm pretty sure we'd know about either one of those, but since everyone there is so quiet...

It's actually very impressive to me that so many people remain silent. Something's up.
Wow! Just wow! Such an astute observation. It says a lot about the character of the Ms friends and family. MOO, which I choose to extrapolate to BM himself. Well said, indeed.
 
Maybe. I’d think there would be at least a picture of a suspicious vehicle released by now if that were the case.

MOO
I doubt there is a px, based on one CCSO Facebook post, it wasn’t the vehicle make and model, it was more the nature of its staging. JMO I would hope this would be screened for legitimacy, but it’s still not a linkable source, is it?
 
I saw an early report that no one actually saw her on the bike that day. Hold on.

Are we allowed to cite Crimeonline?

If not, in the hidden interview, Barry said that the neighbor went to check on his wife and saw her car there, but her bike missing. Essentially it sounds like he was saying that’s how they “knew” she had gone on a ride. He didn’t mention anything about Suzanne being seen on her bike.

And frankly, if she had been I think posters would show her bike, and print: “Last seen on this bike on such and such street, at approximately 10:05 am.” Or something to that effect.
 
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