Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #18

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  • #901
This case, has me “hooked” and it will remain that way until there’s some resolution.

I got to thinking, what would “I” do, if my hubby went “missing” under suspicious circumstances and I got the feeling LE didn’t believe my story, but I was innocent of any wrongdoing. What would I do?? First off, I would talk to media, in fact, I would hunt them down to help me, to keep the story, forefront in people’s minds. Secondly, I’d be riding LE daily for information. Thirdly, I would come to WS, and listen to what the good people here have to say. Of course, I would “like” all the posts that perceive me as innocent. :) I would vigorously challenge those that perceive me to be guilty. This forum is the best by far for civilized conversation and I would absolutely engage, knowing that I am in the company of critical thinkers that care about what happened even if the majority consensus isn’t in my favour. Then, if I’m brave enough, I’d hop over to the devil’s “punchbowl” and see what’s being spun over there :p Yes, risky I know :eek:

What I would NOT do, is put out a 26 second infomercial and offer a reward for his SAFE return. Although I would want him back safely, that would not be a prerequisite of the offer. Because if I were innocent, I would KNOW he’s likely NOT safe, wherever he is. I would want anyone who has ANY knowledge of what happened to come forward and claim whatever amount I could truly afford to offer. And, I would do this regardless of whether he is found safe or dead or never found, although that would be hoped for, safe return. Because, at least if someone discloses intimate knowledge of what occurred, LE would have something to focus on, digital trail of perp(s), where to look for video evidence. That’s me, just my .02 worth.

So Barry, how about a REAL offer?!
 
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  • #902
LE appears, in my opinion, to be focused on a POI/s. When I had snooped around in the early days of Suzanne being missing, I came across a couple of individuals that I put on my own short list. Based on proximity, habits, and possible knowledge of BM’s whereabouts at the time, they stayed on that list for me. Nothing would surprise me. However, if it was one of those individuals, I believe this would be wrapped up by now. And BM would have been more vocal in his innocence.
 
  • #903
I haven't checked the jail roster lately - has anyone? I'm very impressed with LE and the tight control over this because I have not even heard/seen any tiny bit of a leak. What is going on? Something similar to this I imagine: (reposting)
'We never wanted to let her down': Meet the investigators who helped solve Kelsey Berreth's murder
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Chris Adams: So at first, it started out as a missing person on Sunday, Dec. 2. Monday morning rolled around so we looked at it a little more. Dec. 4, nothing new came up, things just weren’t sitting right with me. The vehicles were sitting there, we just couldn’t bring any proof or signs that she left on her own.

We couldn’t find any signs of struggle, or anything like that. So, I decided to reach out to the FBI.
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it's a good read IMO. nothing else going on in her case that I have found..
JMO
 
  • #904
Woah...I never thought of that!! That’s such a good idea for hiding a body in that area...did you think of that or see it in a show or movie? A bush or tree on top! Dog prob can’t smell either due to being inside the tin drum. Evil genius but let’s hope BM didn’t actually do that.
Sound like Jennifer Farber Dulos. Maybe the murderer had an accomplice. Or two? A dumb girlfriend. A close friend who hated his wife, too. Any number of ideas comes to mind. But being prepared months in advance is right up there at the top. The murderer didn’t think that LE would give up so quickly on the missing, bike accident scenario so quickly, that’s all.
 
  • #905
It seems as though LE has their POI in their sights. Just investigating to help build a case.
 
  • #906
Let's be clear here: we all understand that WS is a facts-based forum and the comment in question, stated as fact was "LE has only acknowledged that they found the bike" which is blatantly untrue.

Not on their own or when specifically asked has LE confirmed they located the bike, the condition of the bike, or even whether SM was seen riding a bike. Nada.

Would it make sense that just because BM also floated his theory that SM was possibly attacked by a mountain lion to insist that LE said SM was attacked by an animal? It's not true.

Sorry, BM doesn't speak for LE no matter how badly the facts get twisted. MOO

I'm sorry, you are correct, of course - I went and listened again to the Sheriff and the question asked of him. There is no indication stated, implied, intimated or otherwise cleverly worded that could be interpreted as LE having or not having SM's bike.

FACT
In TD's (approved by Websleuths) video BM is talking about SM'S bike. He talks about its location, its position, and his thoughts about how LE (mis)handled it."

OPINION
It doesn't make sense that he'd be talking about LE finding his wife's bike, if LE hadn't found it.
To me, it makes sense that LE does have SM's bike.
 
  • #907
Stephanie (Butzer) Rose

@stephaniebutzer


As of this morning, the Colorado Bureau of Investigation confirmed the below info regarding the #SuzanneMorphew case:

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No arrests made

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Suzanne has not been located

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The family is cooperating

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This remains a missing persons case
9:16 AM · Jul 6, 2020·

(sorry about the odd format)
 
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  • #909
Stephanie (Butzer) Rose

@stephaniebutzer

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Friday would be the two-month mark since #SuzanneMorphew went missing from Chaffee County. As of now, this remains a missing persons case and has never been a homicide case. Previous story on why little info has been released to the public: https://bit.ly/3cPtH0i

Very interesting. Never a homicide case. ??
I think they would need evidence that points to Suzanne being deceased in order for it to be a homicide investigation. Jmo
 
  • #910
I think they would need evidence that points to Suzanne being deceased in order for it to be a homicide investigation. Jmo
Right. Iirc, Gannon Stauch’s case remained a missing child case right up until they cuffed LS. And, Patrick Frazee was cooperating right until he wasn’t. This release doesn’t surprise me at all.
 
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:eek::eek::eek::p:p:p:p:p:p:D It WAS!!! I’m going to read it when a have a few minutes!!:p:p:p

Thanks, again sorry about that. I get excited sometimes and have no one in my household to discuss this case with. When I read that article about how many people get lost in the wilderness it gave me a new perspective. I live in the South near the Gulf of Mexico and have never been to Colorado or any state with that much wilderness, mountains and rugged terrain. I should have also included the original post too because even though I was responding to K9Enzo post, credit and thanks to @Tate123 for sharing the article and book recommendation with us. I promise to edit and be more concise next time. :rolleyes:
 
  • #913
Good to know Suzanne's family is cooperating with the investigation.
 
  • #914
Really?! So if they got into an argument and it got physical and he choked her to death in a fit of rage it is still considered premeditated? I did not understand what crime of passion meant then. What if he got angry, shoved her and she hit her head and died?..it only takes a second to shove someone so that would not be premeditated?? If he got angry and pulled out a gun and shot her that takes seconds to minutes to do so that would be premeditated. If he held her head under the water in the tub that would definitely be premeditated then...and especially cruel and heinous. Confusing but I think I understand. So if he planned it way in advance or “pre-planned” to kill her does that goes into the degree in the charges such as 1st degree? What is the difference in 2nd degree and manslaughter? TIA!
I did some research to try and answer my own questions. This article helped me so I’m sharing in case any others are as confused as I was about the premeditation aspect. Many of you have been on WS a lot longer and followed numerous murder cases so ya’ll probably have a much better grasp of the law than I do...but I’m learning!
The Bloody Truth: Understanding First Degree Murder | Halt.org
 
  • #915
JMO
What makes this case unusual to me is both LE and SM's family and friends have for the most part been quiet and neither is providing anything significant lately that tells us much of anything.

So we really have no idea if LE is close to solving this or if they have made a lot of progress and are getting close to some sort of resolution or not.

One thing we can safely assume though is that LE has lots of information that we dont have.
That surely has given them some areas that they are pursuing. Listing some of the things LE knows by now or is actively obtaining.

*LE investigators would know if there was any blood found in the home or not.

*LE would know if any of their dogs hit on any cadaver smells near the home or not, or near the bicycle area or not. Assuming cadaver dogs were brought in.

*LE would know if the husband's alibi has checked out or not.

*LE would attempt to find out the last time someone other than the husband last spoke to SM or saw SM. Someone external that could vouch for the last time SM was heard from or saw by anyone.

*LE would have interviewed or attempted to interview the children by now, and whatever information they gave LE would help paint a picture of the family dynamics.

*LE would have all the phone records by now of all pertinent people and so they will be looking at the data and trying to see if any of it provides clues to what happened to SM.

*LE would have whatever security camera footage was available and they would be looking through all of that for clues. Business footage and private footage both for whatever they managed to obtain.

*LE is going through all the phoned in tips and following up on each one of them. That in itself would take a lot of time.

*Probably more things LE have either found out already or are pursuing.

So by now, some of those things are known by LE and some of the things are actively being pursued. They may or may not provide the public much more information until there is some major break in the case. Or something gets leaked to the press somehow like a new search area of a specific place or something along those lines.

Until we can get another bread crumb from either LE, or family, or the press, or someone close to the investigation, we are left in the dark as to the real status. The real status is known to LE only and if they could provide a real status, it should fall into one of three main statuses.

1*They did all the above and they still dont have any idea what happened to SM.

2*They did all the above and it has pointed them in a very specific direction and they are working to get more evidence that will prove what they expect happened here.

3*They did some of the above and nothing has helped so far but they have a lot more things that they have to pursue still.
 
  • #916
I watched an episode of Dr. Oz yesterday that had Jennifer Kesse's parents on one segment. She disappeared in 2006. Jennifer's parents felt that police were not doing enough. So, they went to work on their own.

Jennifer's parents acted in a way that I think any (innocent) person would behave if a loved one were missing.

They have done every that they possibly can to locate her. The parents have printed up fliers; kept Jennifer's face in the media by giving multiple interviews; hired a lawyer, a PI, organized search parties, sued for the police records.

The parents have made it their life mission to find their loved one. I would like to think that I would be doing the same for my loved one. I mean, who could really rest one day not knowing where the person is or what happened?

The only reason that I can see that a person would do nothing is that the person knows what happened to his or her loved one. I can see no other reason to remain so indifferent and so silent
 
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  • #917
A “missing persons” case only? This doesn’t ring true.

Why would friends and relatives of the victim be asked by LE not to comment for the sake of the integrity of the investigation of the missing person?

It can only be that the investigation is so close to home that such comments might compromise the investigation due to the very proximity the perpetrator has to the the victim, her children, and the evidence.

moo
 
  • #918
Stephanie (Butzer) Rose

@stephaniebutzer

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Friday would be the two-month mark since #SuzanneMorphew went missing from Chaffee County. As of now, this remains a missing persons case and has never been a homicide case. Previous story on why little info has been released to the public: https://bit.ly/3cPtH0i

Very interesting. Never a homicide case. ??

IMO, I'm tempted to take the reporters word for this (bolded) - has never been a homicide case. For me, I would like to see this statement followed by - according to CCSO (as an example).
 
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Stephanie (Butzer) Rose@stephaniebutzer

As of this morning, the Colorado Bureau of Investigation confirmed the below info regarding the #SuzanneMorphew case:

  • No arrests made
  • Suzanne has not been located
  • The family is cooperating
  • This remains a missing persons case

9:16 AM · Jul 6, 2020
 
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