Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #20

[rainbowshummingbird]

Yes! That’s because that’s what innocent people would do. Nothing could stop us. Not LE and not people pointing fingers at us, because all that matters is finding our loved one. We’re not seeing that here...at all.

There have been many who were under LE’s scrutiny when their loved ones went missing, to name a few: Mark Lunsford, Marc Klaas, and Ed Smart. All these guys weathered LE’s focus on them and they kept on keepin’ on; looking for their abducted child and speaking out. They were never deterred.

 

[Fireflize]

OP stated “he lost a few job opportunities” I was wanting links to that. Where is that on MSM? And the subsequent information?

ETA- you were the OP. Just went back to see who stated he “lost a few jobs”. Where did you get this information? Please I’m genuinely interested.

Sorry Ether, I was just wondering if he had negative repercussions from the assault. People do pick sides.. Speculation.

 

[Madeleine74]

Have been reading the posts about people losing it at the workplace .... now if people were all speculating and insinuating that you did something to your wife and you didn't, wouldn't that cause you to completely lose it .... I mean, you'd be absolutely livid ..... wouldn't that lead you to make yourself available for an interview .... (hey, definitely pick Lauren) ..... and tell the story, the facts, I mean, I'd be furious.

BBM

IF BM retained a criminal defense attorney (as Nancy Grace claimed he did nearly 2 months ago), that attorney would 100% advise their client not to make public statements, not to give media interviews, regardless of what anyone else says or insists the spouse should do, regardless of how livid the client might feel about the speculation and insinuations.

If someone goes to the expense (which is not insignificant) to retain an attorney to protect them and they ignore the attorney's advice, they're a fool, IMO. Might as well go flush thousands of $$$ down the toilet since that's the equivalent result. Just keepin' it real here; I'm not on the side of any POI.

Personally, I would not speak to the media. I would speak with LE investigators, with my attorney present, and that's where my 'interviews' would occur *if* I was considered involved in any crime. I would stay off social media, stay out of the limelight, and follow the advice of my attorney. Now, if a loved one went missing and I had nothing to do with it? I would cooperate, help LE as much as I could, do whatever they advised since they have expertise (and I do not).

IMO

 

[Charlot123]

I'd spend my last cent trying to find a 'missing' loved one. PI's, posters, banners, and self-paid searches by professionals of every kind.
Not to mention, you couldn't KEEP me off of MSM begging the community, the state and the world to help me find them.
But that's just me, I guess.

Not only you, and not only the loved one. Someone who you saw once or twice, but who disappeared, and did not have many close people left. What can you do? Well, at least, bump the thread so that the person is not forgotten, right? Every normal human being is trying to help.

Agreed.

My father owns a very lucrative land development business. One might say he is a work aholic. So, I have no problem with BM conducting business/land transactions and such because my dad would probably do the same. I have seen my dad go straight into business mode when a tragedy struck because that’s just how he handles things.

However, I can assure you that if something like this happened, my dad would “throw money” at the situation if he felt like he couldn’t get answers. I’m talking reward money, private investigators, bill boards etc... that’s how he handles things beyond his control (doesn’t make it right but that’s a whole other story). He would probably hire a PR team if needed.

That’s what is so confusing to me. BM has not done anything besides that video to help in finding his beautiful wife (that we know of)
Why?

MOO

I remember the situation that happened in mid-90es in another country. The sister of the guy I vaguely knew, who at that time was the head of an enterprise (money!), was killed in her apartment, with her husband and child. Before, they were tortured to get the combination of the bank safe, where they had deposited the money from selling an apartment. I don’t know the details. I know the brother hired a PR, it took the PR a year to find the group. All that he initially had was a video from the bank where the woman looking very much like his sister was withdrawing the money.
It cost him a lot. But he found the sister’s killers. I think the experience made him religious, and changed, in general. I might be able to find the links, it used to be a big case.

 

[ethereal*22]

I wouldn't know if the proceeding took place in an actual court but a judge signed off on a "Diversion" as to BM's guilt.
To my limited knowledge, that is basically 'probation' after whatever time determined, would be expunged.
The 'accused' was found innocent of any crime.

Thank you for your response and info , so seldom.

I have looked for this interview at the beginning of thread with the other media links- I don’t see it. Anyhow, it’s one side of a story. I live in a world where after hearing both sides I’m usually still left shaking my head with neither adding up to much. Integrity, honesty- not always easy to come by.

 

[marylamby]

Thank you for your response and info , so seldom.

I have looked for this interview at the beginning of thread with the other media links- I don’t see it. Anyhow, it’s one side of a story. I live in a world where after hearing both sides I’m usually still left shaking my head with neither adding up to much. Integrity, honesty- not always easy to come by.

He said he gave all of the records to LE. I've no reason to doubt that.
ETA: I would imagine that BM's lawyer would've taken exception to that if it were not the truth. After all, BM initiated the charges (again, 6 mos later) and was either after revenge or a monetary civil suit, or both.

 

[Tate123]

Often, I’m honestly afraid to voice my thoughts and feelings here -

How many of us, honestly would post away here, freely as many do if we were not anonymous? What if starting right now we had to pull back the green curtain and show ourselves- ? Post as ourselves verified on SM or the like, with our real photos and information available...?????

sbbm
You would have to give me time to do my make-up.
I know what you are saying.. some people would prefer to stay in the background.

 

[Itsapuzzle]

BBM

IF BM retained a criminal defense attorney (as Nancy Grace claimed he did nearly 2 months ago), that attorney would 100% advise their client not to make public statements, not to give media interviews, regardless of what anyone else says or insists the spouse should do, regardless of how livid the client might feel about the speculation and insinuations.

If someone goes to the expense (which is not insignificant) to retain an attorney to protect them and they ignore the attorney's advice, they're a fool, IMO. Might as well go flush thousands of $$$ down the toilet since that's the equivalent result. Just keepin' it real here; I'm not on the side of any POI.

Personally, I would not speak to the media. I would speak with LE investigators, with my attorney present, and that's where my 'interviews' would occur *if* I was considered involved in any crime. I would stay off social media, stay out of the limelight, and follow the advice of my attorney. Now, if a loved one went missing and I had nothing to do with it? I would cooperate, help LE as much as I could, do whatever they advised since they have expertise (and I do not).

IMO

Has he retained a criminal defence attorney, really? I didn't know that, thought it was probably an attorney to advise him about maybe the search of his house, the confiscation of all his things, that kind of stuff. Me, I'd be speaking out if I was innocent "listen to me" I'd be saying, "how dare you ...." You're either innocent or guilty. Respect your opinion though Madeleine74, no worries. MOO

 

[Madeleine74]

Has he retained a criminal defence attorney, really? I didn't know that, thought it was probably an attorney to advise him about maybe the search of his house, the confiscation of all his things, that kind of stuff. Me, I'd be speaking out if I was innocent "listen to me" I'd be saying, "how dare you ...." You're either innocent or guilty. Respect your opinion though Madeleine74, no worries. MOO

I don't know if he did. Nancy Grace claimed it on her podcast 6 to 7 weeks ago. She's an approved source, however, she's not necessarily correct and has been wrong about many things in the past in other cases. It's why I always begin this with IF so people understand I'm not saying it's a fact that he did retain a criminal defense attorney.

BUT, *IF* he did and IF he decided to not take the advice of an attorney, that would be stupid, IMO.

 

[DizzyB]

Yeah I’m not sure he retained a criminal defense attorney. I assume he “talked to his lawyer” but there has been no confirmation of anything. We know who the Indiana attorney was for getting Suzanne declared incapacitated. So if you want to get nit picky, yeah, Barry hired an attorney. But for what..

 

[Madeleine74]

Not only you, and not only the loved one. Someone who you saw once or twice, but who disappeared, and did not have many close people left. What can you do? Well, at least, bump the thread so that the person is not forgotten, right? Every normal human being is trying to help.

BBM and IMO, in general:

- Do what LE requests. If you (the general you, not specific to any one poster) have specific information related to the missing person case, call the tip line.
- Trust the experts who are working the case.
- Don't interfere with the investigation or anything LE is doing.
- Don't start or spread rumors (I'm not saying anyone here is doing that).
- Pray, if that's of comfort.
- Get involved in helping with one of the cold cases on WS in the meantime. There are many cases, and smart, creative minds could be of assistance.

It's a big world out there and this case is discussed in many other places. Do a Google search if you need reinforcement. There is attention on this case. Most importantly, CO LE and related agencies who are assisting have not forgotten, have not given up, continue to work the case, and this is not considered a cold case.

Again, IMO.

 

[Itsapuzzle]

Yeah I’m not sure he retained a criminal defense attorney. I assume he “talked to his lawyer” but there has been no confirmation of anything. We know who the Indiana attorney was for getting Suzanne declared incapacitated. So if you want to get nit picky, yeah, Barry hired an attorney. But for what..

I was just meaning the attorney was probably hired to advise about the searching of his house, taking his phone, all that stuff, that's all ..... not being nit picky .... it's just an explanation why he got one. I'm no expert, lots of experts here who can answer though. Cheers

 

[marylamby]

I was just meaning the attorney was probably hired to advise about the searching of his house, taking his phone, all that stuff, that's all ..... not being nit picky .... it's just an explanation why he got one. I'm no expert, lots of experts here who can answer though. Cheers

I don't think Nancy Grace would pull that out of thin air. She may have her flaws but she's also aware of ramifications of falsehoods.
JMO

 

[ethereal*22]

At the end of the original post that you reference, was MOO
Indicating an opinion

Thank you! MOO to all of it- got it. I had read other posts that referenced lost jobs - those were probably MOO’d too- hard to keep track of verified, speculated, theorized, fantasied- or other-wised - Like what happened with the notion that a house was listed or a bike was found- so difficult to keep it separated fact from fiction.

So to answer another’s burning question something about do I have any hesitation that BM is not the perp- heck, I don’t even know if there was a bike or a ride, and I’m not shamed to admit this. And I can theorize until my head blows up- give me some CW, PF, FD, LS kind of hinkiness - and flat out textbook 101 lying, cheating, utterly strange backgrounds, info that came right out, etc- mofos ( as someone here long ago so wonderfully used that term, who I miss dearly, their witty posts) - BM has played this well if it’s him- to me he is FAR from the above mentioned full blown creepers/freak shows who had all but a neon sign pointed to their evil heads -

Many of you have done a commendable job at comparing, speculating, theorizing and rationalizing how it must be him, and I digress, it must, who else is there right? Yet because of my life experiences I am waiting on facts. Of oh I have little to none. I hope to one day know just why this is-for Suzanne, not me.

 

[lamlawindy]

I have a question. Have you ever been at your office and become so enraged with a client that you threw everything off your desk onto the floor and then body slammed them?
Me either.
To be honest, I don't know one person in my entire life that has gotten into a physical fight with another human being at work.

I personally haven't but I've represented about 10 clients who have (& prosecuted about 3 others back in the day). It happens, just not in all industries.

 

[Dave F.]

I was just meaning the attorney was probably hired to advise about the searching of his house, taking his phone, all that stuff, that's all ..... not being nit picky .... it's just an explanation why he got one. I'm no expert, lots of experts here who can answer though. Cheers

Retaining a good attorney is ALWAYS an excellent idea in Colorado, if the person can afford it. Just ask KK, next time you see her on the street.

Retaining an attorney does not in any way bar a person from cooperating with LE. That is LE's choice. Again, ask KK if cooperation through an attorney pays, when you see her out and about.
JMO

 

[lamlawindy]

BBM

IF BM retained a criminal defense attorney (as Nancy Grace claimed he did nearly 2 months ago), that attorney would 100% advise their client not to make public statements, not to give media interviews, regardless of what anyone else says or insists the spouse should do, regardless of how livid the client might feel about the speculation and insinuations.

If someone goes to the expense (which is not insignificant) to retain an attorney to protect them and they ignore the attorney's advice, they're a fool, IMO. Might as well go flush thousands of $$$ down the toilet since that's the equivalent result. Just keepin' it real here; I'm not on the side of any POI.

Personally, I would not speak to the media. I would speak with LE investigators, with my attorney present, and that's where my 'interviews' would occur *if* I was considered involved in any crime. I would stay off social media, stay out of the limelight, and follow the advice of my attorney. Now, if a loved one went missing and I had nothing to do with it? I would cooperate, help LE as much as I could, do whatever they advised since they have expertise (and I do not).

IMO

You're 100% correct: if I was hired by Barry Morphew to advise him on a possible criminal matter involving Suzanne, I'd absolutely tell him to keep quiet, not post anything, etc.

As I've said before on WS, though, clients often have a habit of talking/boast/posting, which isn't exactly helpful.

 

[Madeleine74]

You're 100% correct: if I was hired by Barry Morphew to advise him on a possible criminal matter involving Suzanne, I'd absolutely tell him to keep quiet, not post anything, etc.

As I've said before on WS, though, clients often have a habit of talking/boast/posting, which isn't exactly helpful.

BBM

It's delicious for case followers when a POI does (talk/boast/post), not to mention the prosecutor(s).

Or as I like to think of it: "You have the right to remain silent" ... (but not the obligation ).

 

[Feistyomi]

BBM

IF BM retained a criminal defense attorney (as Nancy Grace claimed he did nearly 2 months ago), that attorney would 100% advise their client not to make public statements, not to give media interviews, regardless of what anyone else says or insists the spouse should do, regardless of how livid the client might feel about the speculation and insinuations.

If someone goes to the expense (which is not insignificant) to retain an attorney to protect them and they ignore the attorney's advice, they're a fool, IMO. Might as well go flush thousands of $$$ down the toilet since that's the equivalent result. Just keepin' it real here; I'm not on the side of any POI.

Personally, I would not speak to the media. I would speak with LE investigators, with my attorney present, and that's where my 'interviews' would occur *if* I was considered involved in any crime. I would stay off social media, stay out of the limelight, and follow the advice of my attorney. Now, if a loved one went missing and I had nothing to do with it? I would cooperate, help LE as much as I could, do whatever they advised since they have expertise (and I do not).

IMO

ITA
YES, innocent people do hire attorneys. It serves no purpose to do more interviews, etc. The two videos have brought a lot of scrutiny, much of it negative. Neither seem to have produced any breaks in this case.

we have seen nothing to indicate BM has not cooperated fully with the investigation. IMO
Given the tight lid LE has kept on this investigation, IMO BM is following their lead. I believe LE has been the force guiding and controlling the narrative, since the beginning.

 

[marylamby]

You're 100% correct: if I was hired by Barry Morphew to advise him on a possible criminal matter involving Suzanne, I'd absolutely tell him to keep quiet, not post anything, etc.

As I've said before on WS, though, clients often have a habit of talking/boast/posting, which isn't exactly helpful.

Why would you advise an innocent person to NOT reach out for help in finding his wife????
Would you suspect him as the person who killed her?