Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #20

[Dave F.]

Would LE use the fact, that a lot of people naturally look at the spouse as being the perpetrator, LE would use that to their advantage wouldn't they? Maybe they do have someone in mind and are 'using' BM, and waiting for a mistake to be made by another suspect that we have no knowledge of? ( Just throwing it out there, got to consider all possibilities - even slightly far fetched ones )

I don't think that LE would ruin a peripheral victim's life in a cavalier manner to solve a case, but this could be a highly organized crime which requires time and a lot of investigation. There would certainly be some advantage in allowing the illusion that LE had zeroed in on a different theory than what actually happened to go on while a complex case is being constructed one detail at a time. IMO

 

[OldCop]

66 days and no arrest? Isn't that ranging a wee bit past the "taking a long hard look" phase? JMO

Nah, the long hard look is 10 years down the road when the Cold Case Guys give it another go around and find that final nail that seals the coffin, both literally and figuratively.

 

[Dave F.]

Nah, the long hard look is 10 years down the road when the Cold Case Guys give it another go around and find that final nail that seals the coffin, both literally and figuratively.

.................but it is past the FIRST long hard look phase, isn't it? Doesn't a case get turned over to Cold Case Investigation after the initial investigation has gone cold? IMO

 

[abstr]

I don't think that LE would ruin a peripheral victim's life in a cavalier manner to solve a case, but this could be a highly organized crime which requires time and a lot of investigation. There would certainly be some advantage in allowing the illusion that LE had zeroed in on a different theory than what actually happened to go on while a complex case is being constructed one detail at a time. IMO

IMO, LE isn't pointing a finger or saying a word, people are speculating that it is only Barry they are looking at, but we really don't know much at all about the investigation or theories or facts they may have.

 

[OldCop]

.................but it is past the FIRST long hard look phase, isn't it? Doesn't a case get turned over to Cold Case Investigation after the initial investigation has gone cold? IMO

I dunno. I think they are still long hard looking. The sheriff said no one has been ruled out. It takes time to rule everyone out. Plus, they just did another search of the house. They would have needed probable cause for that. And, if they did find something on that search, they have to wait for the forensics on whatever they found.
The investigation doesn’t go cold until they have nothing left to follow up on and don’t have enough to prosecute. I don’t think we are there yet. So the long hard looking continues.
MOO

 

[MrsWatson]

Yep, you can add an "Inquisitor" machine to the list.

It can detect a single drop of blood that is over twenty years old. It's been tested at graveyards. Example: if you say your great, great, great grandfather is buried amongst 20,000 gravestones, and put a sample of your DNA (fingernail clippings) in the machine with about 85% accuracy, his machine will point right at where your grandfather rests in his grave.
Grave-Detection Machine, Invented by Dr. Arpad Vass Receives Long Awaited Approval for his Patent in July 2018 – ForensicRecoveryServices.org

I did some reading about this. Seems it might not be all it's cracked up to be.

https://static1.squarespace.com/sta...051eaeb8/1594835865277/Inquisitor+Opinion.pdf

Granted, that's just one other scientist's opinion. Interesting stuff, though.

 

[Madeleine74]

I was following the Isabel Celis case till that one turned all of us upside down. A LOT of us - and I was one of them - who thought the father was guilty looked like fools when it was solved. Even one podcaster, Micheal Whelan of the "Unresolved" podcast did a special podcast where he apologized for his theory blaming the dad. After that I said I would do my upmost to keep an open mind because no matter what the LE and media put out there that indicates a slam dunk it may not be so.

Jumping the gun is easy to do and the results reverberate when it's incorrect. I followed the Celis case for a while. LE was very much targeting the father and the resultant pile-on was unfortunate. But that pales in comparison to the infamous debacle of crowdsourcing armchair sleuths in 2013, convinced they were solving the Boston bombing case, all the while IDing the wrong guy, publishing the guy's name out to the world, and making a mess of it all. "Oops, my bad," was the resulting sentiment.

IMO

 

[Murphy1950]

I did some reading about this. Seems it might not be all it's cracked up to be.

https://static1.squarespace.com/sta...051eaeb8/1594835865277/Inquisitor+Opinion.pdf

Granted, that's just one other scientist's opinion. Interesting stuff, though.

I know what you mean Exactly, I so hear you and it just seems too off the wall. The thought creeps me out and don't understand how it could possibly work...detect a drop of blood? but this was news a few days ago

...FWIW
40 years later, some of Gina Hall’s remains found in Pulaski County

 

[Lilypad13]

^^^^I think list covers ~all except little green man in UFO landing on US Hwy 50?^^^^^

RSBBM
They are little grey men and they usually bring the person back where they abducted them from.

 

[Madeleine74]

I doubt that Barry Morphew will talk to Lauren. Major kudos to Lauren, though, if she can actually get Morphew friends or acquaintances in Salida to say something. The wall of silence has been unbelievable.

If BM has a criminal defense attorney and that attorney is worth his/her retainer fee, s/he'd be telling BM not to make public comments *IF* he's a POI in a criminal investigation. As an attorney you'd be advising your client the same, I would think.

 

[Ontario Mom]

A lot of sleuthers appear to be going all in on BM. I can’t. I’m still holding back a couple of chips until I see more cards.

I'm probably 90% in favor of it being BM who caused SM to disappear.
A few little things here and there give me pause, so I can't be "all in" just yet.

 

[Ontario Mom]

MOO. When I look at this picture I see a man with flat eyes, seemingly a bit annoyed. He is “guarding” the doorway in a controlling manner. His wife is hanging back, very tentative, with a smile that doesn’t look quite genuine, but she must show it to say “everything is all right here”.
What do you see?

I've no idea what the context of this photo is, but when I look at it I see a hotel room, family on vacation and one of the girls maybe knocked on the door, dad answered it in a joking way as if to respond to a sales call, him saying "sorry, not interested" and closing the door. Mom standing behind smiling, because it was funny.

There are actually pics of my family in a villa in Florida, that look almost exactly like this. If I suddenly disappeared and someone saw one of those pics, they'd likely assume the wrong thing about the pic. I might too, if I didn't know the context of the pic.

jmo

 

[Charlot123]

I dunno. I think they are still long hard looking. The sheriff said no one has been ruled out. It takes time to rule everyone out. Plus, they just did another search of the house. They would have needed probable cause for that. And, if they did find something on that search, they have to wait for the forensics on whatever they found.
The investigation doesn’t go cold until they have nothing left to follow up on and don’t have enough to prosecute. I don’t think we are there yet. So the long hard looking continues.
MOO

Can “long, then longer, then even longer” hard looking obliquely point at more planning going into the case? How to use Colorado terrain, to hide the body, how not to leave digital traces, or make the traces confirm one’s alibi. Maybe someone even studied Colorado’s famous cases - CW’s, PF’s - to avoid their mistakes.

 

[24Brix]

So we have a picture. Probably a hotel room, from the looks of it, a doorway connecting two rooms directly. Check out the locks on his right side facing camera. But while you all are looking at his face, I note he is left handed. That fact might come in handy later. And there’s a pile of what? Pillows, blankets to his left, right side of the picture. At first I thought they looked like bags of rice. More hotel stuff.
ETA: Yes, he looks a bit annoyed. Trying to get comfortable in a hotel room and kids or others wanting to come join them when he had other ideas.

I’m seeing temporary “festival” bracelets (or theme park bracelets or whatever) on their right wrists. (So I’m not sure what the “tell” is on left-handedness.) I agree, that is hotel bedding on camera-right, just beyond the nightstand. But I think this is the main door to the room, not a connector-door between rooms, due to the card-lock that appears above the handle. I believe that’s a desk below their arms in the background with one of those mesh Aeron (sp?) chairs behind it. At first I thought there was a piece of “smoking glass” on the desk but I think it’s probably a water goblet in front of a plastic water bottle. As for their expressions, what I’m seeing is SM pleased to see the photographer while BM’s patience is being tried just a bit. The photographer is certainly not being invited in.

All MOO.

 

[Charlot123]

I'm probably 90% in favor of it being BM who caused SM to disappear.
A few little things here and there give me pause, so I can't be "all in" just yet.

It seems very convenient for BM to make SM disappear, as they are bound by common property. I am very much interested in finding out if there are any subtle differences in CO and IN property laws that made the move advantageous for him.

This being said, history of the world gives ample examples as to how jurisprudence could be abused, especially by tyrants, so I try to adhere to the rule “not accused - not guilty”. It doesn’t mean that we can’t sleuth, or point out at obvious discrepancies in the stories, or do whatever we are doing. But I have noticed that there is a mental block in my mind, and I can’t say to myself, “BM’s doing”. Instead, I say “I wish I knew more”.

After KB’s case, I am paying more attention to “character witnesses”. Remember that woman who posted about PF being abusive to horses? She sounded off at that time, and yet, she gave a 100% correct description of him. So as of today, single voices describing BM as “controlling” have relevance to me. But still, I can’t yet accuse as there is not enough proof. Can only say, “suspicious” and watch the property battles if they emerge.

 

[rainbowshummingbird]

I'm probably 90% in favor of it being BM who caused SM to disappear.
A few little things here and there give me pause, so I can't be "all in" just yet.

What would you say is the 10% that prevents you from going all in?

 

[JnRyan]

I doubt that Barry Morphew will talk to Lauren. Major kudos to Lauren, though, if she can actually get Morphew friends or acquaintances in Salida to say something. The wall of silence has been unbelievable.

Yes, I seriously doubt Barry Morphew is going to talk to Lauren, or any other media person. I'm hoping if she is making the 2.5 to 3 hour trip that indicates she might have others, friends or acquaintances, that are willing to speak to her. The employees in her favorite bike shop, bookstore if she frequented there, craft store maybe or coffee shop or any other place she frequented enough that they can talk about her.

 

[Charlot123]

No Body Recovery But LE Quickly Treats as Suspicious Injury/Death. Why?
Shortly after MisPers report is receved and investigation begins , if LE quickly (say, 4-24-72 hrs) swerves from all possibilities on list* to focus on poss death by husband, what would cause change of focus so quickly?

Evidence of Severe Injury or Death, but short of body recovery? These at home?
---amt/volume of blood lost at scene is inconsistent w life, matches victim's DNA.
--- small amts of brain tissue, indicating non-survivable injury.
--- small amounts of other tissue, e.g., a few fingernails or teeth, not necessarily a non-survivable injury, but in conjunction w a few other clues, e.g., evd of fight/violence, (DomVio diary, email, texts, other e-trail?) well, possible? my 2 cts.

??? What other evd/clues would support injury/death (at home?), caused by husband (or other?)--- that LE could have discovered so quickly?
...................................................................................................................................
* At very beginning, LE is open to all possibilities:
--- lost/injured/attacked in wildernes, still there, & needs rescue?
--- deliberate self harm, ending in death?
--- secretly left to live by self or w other-person-in-life, spontaneous or looooong planned?
--- abducted by stalker/stranger/local-ish resident/old-home-area person/transient; who also
(spontaneous or planned), intended to hold as captive for nefarious purposes & eventual death?
--- suffering injury/death, spontaneous or planned, at husband's hand?
^^^^I think list covers ~all except little green man in UFO landing on US Hwy 50?^^^^^

Injury/death at another known person’s hand? Be it a relative, a relationship, an ex, a husband’s ex, someone in her orbit. Almost 30% chance.

 

[Trackergd]

Plus, they just did another search of the house. They would have needed probable cause for that.

Respectfully snipped

Bingo. And this is why years of LE first hand experience overrides all the background chatter, social media nonsense and rampant speculation.

There is not enough hard evidence for any of us to really say "who did it", however the activities of LE that we are privy to, "seem" to point at one individual. That individual may or may not have had one or more confederates. That individual may have had one or more motivations (Sex, Money or Revenge) Time will tell. I have been at this long enough to know that when folks get fixated on one person, the case can suddenly go sideways and you have a whole new cast of characters. All we have is our own personal percentage of probability that Actor "B" committed one or more criminal acts. Mass Guy is correct. LE his holding all the cards and we are not privy to the cold hard facts such as cell phone records, documents, forensic results from the house, forensic results from one or more vehicles, forensic results from one or more remote location, interviews with witnesses and family, etc. Due to the lack of strings to pull, we tend to rehash the same tidbits with little progress. Maddening as it may be, we have to work with what we have and should be respectful of each others opinions.

 

[susiQ]

IMO, LE isn't pointing a finger or saying a word, people are speculating that it is only Barry they are looking at, but we really don't know much at all about the investigation or theories or facts they may have.

At this point I fully believe BM is involved in SM’s disappearance. But I have not ruled out that he had help in someway by others either knowingly or unknowingly by them.If more people involved, more time to solve. JMO