Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #21

[Dave F.]

i honestly think they were trying to ask her if she was scared being on the site, without saying "since you're a woman, were you scared (of the murderer) being on the site?"

i did notice her reaction, but i have nothing but respect for these 2 gentleman and really don't think they meant any harm or were being sexist in that moment. i felt like well, they are just from a different generation and therefore might think a little differently than we do today, and perhaps it just came out wrong. these days you have to carefully verbalize every thought that comes out of your mouth in a live moment, or else you're labelled as something horrible when someone gets offended. (i hate it, which is why i try to keep my mouth shut. lol. i wouldn't dare do a live stream for this very reason, so kudos to the live-streamers out there! it takes guts! )

I'm from a different generation........one which heard that kind of talk constantly, and I cringed when I heard it. IMO

 

[1987]

Same but now i know the river is a 100 yards from where the bike was found i feel the river is way less likely now.

300 feet is really not that far, in a accident a person could be very confused about what was what direction. if you were going to stage something to look like a accident wouldn't you put the bike closer to the river? the distance to the river could also be in question if there was a attempt to stage it to look like a accident.

 

[BeachSky]

Makes sense since the gym had been closed for at least a couple of months at that point, from covid. Not like the gym members would be seeing each other.

Plus, there were already enough searchers who had training and were members of or affiliated with LE doing searches. LE was very clear that the public's assistance was not needed in that respect.

Well if he’s been going to the gym - it’s been open.
Suzanne was a regular at that gym and she is still missing.
So instead of working out, why doesn’t he walk up to various regulars..say can you help me search for my wife?
He had nooooooo problem bragging (in his recorded chat )about his buddies looking here & there.

MOO

 

[windrower]

IMO, BM working out at the gym feels like he is moving on. Maybe he’s staying in shape for a sweetie pie, one who isn’t SUZANNE.

Follow the money, the heart, the power.

 

[susiQ]

Well if he’s been going to the gym - it’s been open.
Suzanne was a regular at that gym and she is still missing.
So instead of working out, why doesn’t he walk up to various regulars..say can you help me search for my wife?
He had nooooooo problem bragging (in his recorded chat )about his buddies looking here & there.

MOO

CBM
Because he’s not looking for her and he can’t even make an effort to pretend. I mean, there’s selling, buying, a well to be drilled, driveways to be put in and a new house to be built! How on earth would he find TIME to look for his wife??? The gym is likely how he gets to see someone? Until it isn’t “too soon” anymore?? MOO

Sorry, that sounds angry doesn’t it? These cases make me really angry

 

[Minordetails]

I'll go back to my very basic question: How do we KNOW that is the spot? Because BM said it was? Or because some third party like LE or a searcher confirmed it?

I don’t believe there is anything ‘secretive’ about the spot where the bike was found. IMO there could have been a dozen or more personnel show up at the scene when the call was put out that the bike had been located. In a small town, rural area, word would get around quickly and every one would know the spot. MOO

 

[Birmingplumb]

$ 1000 dollar hit-man accomplice----consider the source-- IMO...(just like personal assistant hired in New York decapitated tech CEO). Sicking how value of human life has been reduced these days-especially Chicago.

 

[scapa]

It’s such a ridiculous theory. If SM went flying down that hill, on her bike, she would have been found with her bike. I personally know of two people, my elder brother and my best friend’s son, that had a serious bike accident that resulted in an ambulance ride and a few days in hospital and weeks of bed rest. Neither one could “get up and go” anywhere.

I’m really curious about the damage to that bike, and whether it is consistent with being hit by a car, being thrown down the hill or someone driving over it on purpose to make it look like it was hit by a car. I suspect the latter.

Interesting. I wonder if that bike has been carefully examined for, say, pickup truck tire marks.

Or mountain lion paw prints.

Or the telltale halting swerves of a mountain lion trying to drive stick.

Ridiculous indeed.

Very glad that LS is still digging away at this one.

 

[DellaC]

DBM

Question: When using WS across multiple devices, do other folks have the issue of a reply you've posted via device A showing up as an unposted draft on device B?

 

[LietKynes]

CBM
Because he’s not looking for her and he can’t even make an effort to pretend. I mean, there’s selling, buying, a well to be drilled, driveways to be put in and a new house to be built! How on earth would he find TIME to look for his wife??? The gym is likely how he gets to see someone? Until it isn’t “too soon” anymore?? MOO

Sorry, that sounds angry doesn’t it? These cases make me really angry

bbm
Ita.
Don't be sorry. You are right to be angry, I am as well.

I don't think someone else is very upset at all ...iykwim ?

Sometimes I become discouraged and feel like we here at WS and maybe some others like LS and LE are the only ones who are angry for Suzanne !
As far as the gym (smdh), remember it was said before that BM was 'grieving', maybe he needs to keep up his strength in the face of all of this ?
Imo.

 

[EggSalad]

The newly discussed bike info by LS is very interesting to me since I’m a mountain biker.

-The dirt road it happened on is pretty wide
-If she was riding home, she’d be on the opposite side of the road from the ravine.
-If she was heading out from the house, she’d be riding on the side of the road of the ravine.
-Since a personal item was found further away from the bike crash and house, you could presume she was riding home, so it doesn't make since to be riding on the left hand side of the road next to the ravine.
-A typical mountain bike wheel damage is called ‘taco ing’ your wheel, ie bashing in part of it from a long drop or hitting a rock really hard. Neither of those options could happen on that dirt road.
-If the damage happened from the bike going into that ravine, there would probably be more damage to the bike than just the front wheel. The rear derailer would probably be bent and if she had a carbon frame, the frame would almost certainly have damage. If the only damage was to the front wheel, it would certainly lead to the thought of the bike being planted there.
-Also depending on the scenario (bike crash, kidnapping, animal attack) you’d have a lot of disturbed foliage for obvious reasons.

So we don't have all the details but we’re starting to get more and they are pointing towards the alleged bike accident being a plant.

 

[DizzyB]

If there was a bike crash, there would have been evidence of such. The bike was always a problem.

 

[Minordetails]

After watching the latest LS video, two things I learned:

1) SM was avid gym goer (daily)
2) It was not uncommon to see BM and SM out walking together.

I’m interested in hearing what SM’s friend has to say later this week. I get the feeling that SM had a presence in her community, was a friendly, recognizable face, but that very few people could tell you who her favourite author is or what her favourite meal is. JMO

 

[Truecolors]

The newly discussed bike info by LS is very interesting to me since I’m a mountain biker.

-The dirt road it happened on is pretty wide
-If she was riding home, she’d be on the opposite side of the road from the ravine.
-If she was heading out from the house, she’d be riding on the side of the road of the ravine.
-Since a personal item was found further away from the bike crash and house, you could presume she was riding home, so it doesn't make since to be riding on the left hand side of the road next to the ravine.
-A typical mountain bike wheel damage is called ‘taco ing’ your wheel, ie bashing in part of it from a long drop or hitting a rock really hard. Neither of those options could happen on that dirt road.
-If the damage happened from the bike going into that ravine, there would probably be more damage to the bike than just the front wheel. The rear derailer would probably be bent and if she had a carbon frame, the frame would almost certainly have damage. If the only damage was to the front wheel, it would certainly lead to the thought of the bike being planted there.
-Also depending on the scenario (bike crash, kidnapping, animal attack) you’d have a lot of disturbed foliage for obvious reasons.

So we don't have all the details but we’re starting to get more and they are pointing towards the alleged bike accident being a plant.

I had similar thoughts about the bike being on that side of the ravine. It would point to SM (or other) traveling from the house toward highway 50 when it ended up in the ravine. The personal item could’ve been deposited by SM (or other) after the bike ended up in the ravine.

One scenario: SM is grabbed, bike tossed, SM throws items from abductor’s vehicle.

Another scenario: Bike is planted. Then personal item is planted.

The tire damage is very interesting. If SM simply had an accident, the personal item found off highway 50 could indicate that she climbed up to the road and walked in that direction, away from home. LE did confirm a search in that area near the beginning, so they may have thought the same. Until this video, I didn’t realize how close the bike and the item were (allegedly) found.

MOO

 

[EggSalad]

I had similar thoughts about the bike being on that side of the ravine. It would point to SM (or other) traveling from the house toward highway 50 when it ended up in the ravine. The personal item could’ve been deposited by SM (or other) after the bike ended up in the ravine.

One scenario: SM is grabbed, bike tossed, SM throws items from abductor’s vehicle.

Another scenario: Bike is planted. Then personal item is planted.

The tire damage is very interesting. If SM simply had an accident, the personal item found off highway 50 could indicate that she climbed up to the road and walked in that direction, away from home. LE did confirm a search in that area near the beginning, so they may have thought the same. Until this video, I didn’t realize how close the bike and the item were (allegedly) found.

MOO

It’s also interesting that BM keeps throwing out unlikely scenarios: 1. Kidnapping - based on his reward video 2. Mountain Lion

It only took you and I 5 minutes to realize how odd and unlikely that potential bike scene is. If I’m an innocent husband, I’m openly talking about how odd the bike scene is and how it doesn’t add up. Instead, he is doubling down on highly unlikely scenarios.

 

[Megnut]

If Suzanne walked and biked that route with any regularity, a personal item of hers could've been dropped absolutely by accident. An earring, earbuds.... neither planted nor related to the crime.... JMO

As for the bike, it was early May....not much for foliage yet, doubtful anything was yet leafed out, is it possible that the mountain lion intended to cartwheel the bike closer to the creek but it caught itself on a tree?

If the mountain lion intended for better staging, was he disappointed with his minor league toss?

All kinds of weird evidence if the lion went down there and repositioned it more to his liking.

Just some of my own thoughts, making me go hmmmmm....

 

[lonetraveler]

I like to envision Suzanne returning home alive and well, like the lady from “Gone Girl.”

“Honey, I know I didn’t do anything to find you, but that’s because I know how strong you are, and that you didn’t need any help. I knew you’d come home eventually. While you were gone, I took care of numero uno, just like I knew you would want. Look at how ripped I am for God’s sakes! Oh, and we need to talk about some financial wheeling and dealing I did while you were away. How are you? Did that mountain lion treat you well?”

I know that there is nothing funny about this case but I have to admit that I laughed out loud when I read this post.

 

[Truecolors]

If Suzanne walked and biked that route with any regularity, a personal item of hers could've been dropped absolutely by accident. An earring, earbuds.... neither planted nor related to the crime.... JMO

As for the bike, it was early May....not much for foliage yet, doubtful anything was yet leafed out, is it possible that the mountain lion intended to cartwheel the bike closer to the creek but it caught itself on a tree?

If the mountain lion intended for better staging, was he disappointed with his minor league toss?

All kinds of weird evidence if the lion went down there and repositioned it more to his liking.

Just some of my own thoughts, making me go hmmmmm....

BBM

That would be an interesting question—did SM normally walk or bike where the personal item was found? There’s a trail through that area. I wonder if the item was found near the trail or on the side of highway 50?

MOO

 

[lonetraveler]

bbm
Good points.

But imo I don't necessarily believe the bike was found there.
And I don't care what BM says.

I think LE might have the bike in their possession but something about it gave LE hinky vibes.
Had the bike sustained damage ?
Was it wiped clean ?
Someone in a past thread suggested that if it was locked in a particular way that it wouldn't have been rideable.
And if LE discovered that....
Just one little fib will tell them that all is not as it looks.
Imo.
Or maybe the description by a certain person as to where it could be found, and voila' !

LE aren't saying anything really, and it would appear they're building their case.
It's like the least 'slip' and rumors will start flying around .

BBM: This has been my thought all along. JMO but maybe the bike was taken off of the bike rack on the car and maybe whoever tossed it down the ravine forgot to notice that the wheel was locked so that it would not spin while driving the vehicle.

 

[JnRyan]

BBM: This has been my thought all along. JMO but maybe the bike was taken off of the bike rack on the car and maybe whoever tossed it down the ravine forgot to notice that the wheel was locked so that it would not spin while driving the vehicle.

As one who does a lot of cycling and carrying my bike in a bike rack this is new to me. How do you 'lock' a wheel?