Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #21

[LietKynes]

Makes me wonder about an affair. It always seems like that comes out in these types of cases. "Perfect" family then all of a sudden.... coincidentally there was an affair and splitting up the pie while maintaining a certain life with an ex and new woman just seems beyond the cheaters imagination. I'd guess it's that they realize somewhere in their thick skulls that the mistress isn't just with them for their winning personalities. The new person isn't going to stick around for a long divorce, financial problems, downgrades, etc.

bbm
Lol.
Well said.

My mind is churning with so many questions that might be able to be broached if the interview brings it up.... and it's msm so it can be discussed.
I do wonder if someone is sweating profusely lately ?
Or it could just be the gym workouts.
Imo.

 

[IceIce9]

this is the one! DO NOT MISS. i repeat, do not miss! lol.

ETA: the full TD they are discussing above (and more) video has just been posted on his youtube channel.

Interesting, thanks!

 

[susiQ]

Yes. It’s like they KNEW for a fact she didn’t go on that bike ride. If they didn’t know, then we would have seen all the things we usually see.

It wouldn’t be enough for a murder charge obviously, but it would close all those other doors.

You gotta love LS for her diligence & professionalism and TD for his tenacity in putting his boots on the ground. I don’t care if he finds “rumours”. That’s a small town and people know things and talk. There’s always some truth in the rumours!

 

[MassGuy]

I agree... and that's what would have kicked them into high gear so quickly...possibly getting a SW that same night.

Yes, and spurred the quick call to the CBI and FBI. When crimes like this go unsolved, it seems that mistakes are made by law enforcement early on.

Inexperience and a lack of resources can doom a case.

There’s no overstating how great a decision it was to reach out for help in those early hours.

 

[RumorMonger]

In addition, in this case the use of ground penetrating sonar could have been done with the consent of landowner. If an anomaly was observed during this process, that fact, together with the owners consent and observations of a neighbor about activities occurring on the job site on MD weekend could have all been articulated in an affidavit to establish PC for SW...IMO.

However, this job site would have had numerous people who had access to it during the relevant time period. Not only contractors and subs, but residential job sites are often not secured and pretty much anyone can walk onto them.

Also if dirt guy disposed of a body in a site prep job, the concrete guys, framers & county inspectors likely would have smelled it before the sonar was brought in.

IMO LE was simply following a lead and it appears that not much came from this lead.

BBM
IMO this is a great example for us all to understand the practical standard of probable cause (in other words, the "10 must-haves" in action) and judge the rigor of the standard. Decide for yourselves whether this is enough to indicate that issuance of a SW, in and of itself, is meaningful.

 

[susiQ]

Yes, and spurred the quick call to the CBI and FBI. When crimes like this go unsolved, it seems that mistakes are made by law enforcement early on.

Inexperience and a lack of resources can doom a case.

There’s no overstating how great a decision it was to reach out for help in those early hours.

I think that’s why I’m confident an arrest will take place in under six months. Actually, I’m willing to bet under five at this point. I don’t know what I could bet other that virtual donuts and coffee, or some more fortifying libations?

 

[oviedo]

Yes, and spurred the quick call to the CBI and FBI. When crimes like this go unsolved, it seems that mistakes are made by law enforcement early on.

Inexperience and a lack of resources can doom a case.

There’s no overstating how great a decision it was to reach out for help in those early hours.

hmm how's this for a scenario - girls try to get a hold of mom starting on may 8 and by the 10th become so worried they reach out to ________________ - (neighbor? Dad? either is plausible) - neighbor is contacted and neighbor checks for "bike" - or car or whatever based on what neighbor was told by ____________. Neighbor checks their own video (I have done this myself) and sees something odd - then calls 911 and says- Mom is missing, and there is something on my cameras you should see. We saw this in Watts - Frazee, Dulos - I think it is possible, no? Remember, 911 call has not been released. wonder why?
JMO

 

[DellaC]

That's awful, sounds like you need to find a new job...have you considered government?

The irony is the posts I'm referring to are in a thread on a Facebook page started by the family, a page they control. "Find Suzanne Morphew"

Does make you wonder who has admin/editing privileges and why did they just drop it.

 

[al66pine]

Factor Initially Prompting LE to Focus on BM?

.... a lot of security cameras in the area around the house, as there are high value rental properties.... something huge that focused law enforcement’s investigation early on. I think there’s a good chance that BM was caught either on video, or via an eyewitness, dumping that bike. Either he was actually captured doing it, or the bike was seen in the back of his pickup.

@MassGuy sbm bbm Yes, to your post. I edited my list of three possible factors prompting LE to put BM in the frame (first tentatively, a few days later more focused).
1. BM was witnessed w bike in truck or w bike at scene, on vid or by eyewitness? LE soon learned.
2. Clues of violence/injury (e.g., blood?) at M. house/prop. LE soon learned.
3. BM & SM were known by some ppl. to be living separately; or one/both had a very special friend.
LE soon learned.
^^^ All just hypothetical, unaware of any factual basis.^^^

Whatever was #3 on my list = gone. @MassGuy thx

 

[kay74]

I’d love to apologize to Suzanne on behalf of any person who hurt her.

of course! But it's not Barry! JMO

 

[Madeleine74]

Does make you wonder who has admin/editing privileges and why did they just drop it.

Assuming the answer is TN who has admin privileges of the FB page, this might be a question to submit to LaurenS and see if she can find out why TN is no longer updating or administering that page. It's come up a bunch of times in these threads, so it's an issue that has a lot of interest and much concern.

IMO

 

[Penny4YourThoughts]

where the hell is suzanne?

 

[LietKynes]

hmm how's this for a scenario - girls try to get a hold of mom starting on may 8 and by the 10th become so worried they reach out to ________________ - (neighbor? Dad? either is plausible) - neighbor is contacted and neighbor checks for "bike" - or car or whatever based on what neighbor was told by ____________. Neighbor checks their own video (I have done this myself) and sees something odd - then calls 911 and says- Mom is missing, and there is something on my cameras you should see. We saw this in Watts - Frazee, Dulos - I think it is possible, no? Remember, 911 call has not been released. wonder why?
JMO

bbm
Maybe there was more of an explanation or some conflicting information ?
Or the neighbor said something that was night and day different from what was told to her ?

As in someone saying "Well, she left this morning for her bike ride and the girls haven't been able to reach her..." ; when in actuality she wasn't seen at all that day , or the husband was seen on camera when he said he was in Denver ?

I keep think egregious mistakes were made, and LE mainly are looking for a trace of Suzanne whilst simultaneously investigating signs of someone(s) lying and hiding evidence ?
Shades of Fotis Dulos and Rob Thomas.
Imo.

 

[Megnut]

We were TOLD Suzanne was an avid cyclist... we were TOLD she bikes on Sundays before church... by a source who had a bike story to peddle....

What if Suzanne hadn't actually ridden her bike IN MONTHS?

Guess what can happen to a bike, left unattended thru winter. FLAT TIRES. Looking at it, you might not notice. Riding it you would. You wouldn't make it 2000 feet. Or 2. Throw in a wheel lock and you have an unridable bike in a ravine.

That bike could well be the biggest clue in the evidence locker, both for HOW it got there (where it was found) and WHY!

All my own speculation

 

[DizzyB]

Assuming the answer is TN who has admin privileges of the FB page, this might be a question to submit to LaurenS and see if she can find out why TN is no longer updating or administering that page. It's come up a bunch of times in these threads, so it's an issue that has a lot of interest and much concern.

IMO

I seem to remember Lauren saying she had reached out to TN and received no response. Honestly, I think she has reached out to pretty much everybody that is in any way connected, even some of the minor characters.

 

[Megnut]

FWIW I think TN is silent ON BEHALF OF THE DAUGHTERS, because anything he COULD say, might put them at risk. I think the whole community is doing the same.

JMO JMO JMO

 

[Madeleine74]

Aren't you guys & gals thankful LE sprung into action right away that night of May 10 and started a 2-prong approach in looking for SM as well as looking at the house for signs of her or signs of her disappearing? Imagine if they had taken the missing person report and sat on it for a day or 2.

Granted, some people don't like when LE gets going fast and looks askance at the family and/or friends and doesn't automatically believe whatever scenarios they're told.

Good for LE for following their process.

IMO

 

[LietKynes]

We were TOLD Suzanne was an avid cyclist... we were TOLD she bikes on Sundays before church... by a source who had a bike story to peddle....

What if Suzanne hadn't actually ridden her bike IN MONTHS?

Guess what can happen to a bike, left unattended thru winter. FLAT TIRES. Looking at it, you might not notice. Riding it you would. You wouldn't make it 2000 feet. Or 2. Throw in a wheel lock and you have an unridable bike in a ravine.

That bike could well be the biggest clue in the evidence locker, both for HOW it got there (where it was found) and WHY!

All my own speculation

Ita. ^^^

As well as the nephew asking the public to ask LE about the 'condition' of the bike.
That sounds like someone told him (TN) to ask this, and it wasn't just his own curiosity.
Imo.

 

[JnRyan]

SM buying a bike tire?
At ~ 4:00 - 5:00 min on yesterday's Pr/Evil vid, Youtuber TD said there are 3 bike shops in Salida and said Absolute Bikes employee told him shop records in their system show SM's last purchase was a tire in 2018. IIUC TD said he got no info re SM at other 2 shops.

No mention on that vid, whether TD asked
Q.What kind of bike? Mtn, st, etc? Of course that purchase -
- was in 2018.
- was not necessarily for her own bike (could have been dau's, BM's).
- may have been for a bike she no longer owns.
- may have been a tire for one of multiple bikes she owns.
Maybe not likely to tie w mystery bike (that may/may not have been found on/near trail, damaged or not damaged?).

TD said Absolute mechanic said SM did not get bike work done there, but somebody named Scott did her bike work, working from his garage. Nothing in vid re TD asking-
Q. Did bike shop install tire for her?
Maybe more bike info in records (in computer system). Well, still ~ yrs ago.

^Still interesting.

Interesting. I went on Google Maps back in May and looked for bike shops. TD mentions interviewing Absolute Bikes and Sub-Culture Cyclery, but in my search last May and again today Suzanne's missing person poster was not on the main web site or on their Facebook pages. However, the third bike shop in Salida, Salida Bike Company, had Suzanne's poster on their FB page on 11 May. The very next day and they were only one of the 3 bike shops to do anything publicly that I could find in relation to Suzanne. Was Salida Bike Company, who put Suzanne's poster on their web page on that Monday, the shop that did not want to speak TD? Maybe it is just a coincidence but maybe Salida Bike Company was Suzanne's go-to shop? We won't know though because TD didn't speak to them.

One tire in 2 years? My initial reaction is that isn't much for an avid cyclist. I bought 3 tires for one bike alone last year. But then I thought I only bought one in a bike shop. I bought the other 2 online because none of the shops carried what I wanted. Suzanne may have done the same.

She has her work done by someone named Scott or Scot? Took me all of about a minute, but there is a Scot's Bicycle Service and the owner retired last year from Absolute Bikes. If this is the same guy how did TD miss this? His address, phone number and email are on the web page.
Salida, Colorado

 

[Madeleine74]

I seem to remember Lauren saying she had reached out to TN and received no response. Honestly, I think she has reached out to pretty much everybody that is in any way connected, even some of the minor characters.

I think she just tried to get him to talk in general. Maybe if she sent him a message asking him who is in charge of the Find SM FB page he'd send back an answer. Or, I guess it can remain a mystery.