Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #26

[Cindizzi]

i was just checking twitter to see if there was anything new happening, and suzanne's profile is locked. wasn't it previously open?

moo.

I still see it. It’s srmorphew. There’s one using full names that is locked that I’ve always seen too when searching by her name.

 

[Gigi3]

in the back of a truck. on the way to a work site. nothing to see here! it would look totally normal.

Absolutely. Lots of construction workers carry ice chests to keep drinks in for the day. MOO

 

[Birmingplumb]

Since you are familiar with construction and equipment needed for which job - and you do not use terms like moverdiggiething -could you please take a look at the Bobcat (not sure if that’s a bulldozer or backhoe?) in his driveway and say if it could be used to dig a deep grave? Also would one of its intended purposes be laying a large amount of dirt in preparation for a concrete slab being poured? It looks kinda small. Is a compactor anything that could be used in a nefarious way to dispose of a body? I’m guessing it pushes all the dirt down tight so the foundation doesn’t crack if the dirt settles but not sure. Thanks @Birmingplumb! For all we know a totally different piece of equipment could have been acquired elsewhere and taken TO that job site where the FBI excavated and used there or attempted to use there and then taken away.

Since you are familiar with construction and equipment needed for which job - and you do not use terms like moverdiggiething -could you please take a look at the Bobcat (not sure if that’s a bulldozer or backhoe?) in his driveway and say if it could be used to dig a deep grave? Also would one of its intended purposes be laying a large amount of dirt in preparation for a concrete slab being poured? It looks kinda small. Is a compactor anything that could be used in a nefarious way to dispose of a body? I’m guessing it pushes all the dirt down tight so the foundation doesn’t crack if the dirt settles but not sure. Thanks @Birmingplumb! For all we know a totally different piece of equipment could have been acquired elsewhere and taken TO that job site where the FBI excavated and used there or attempted to use there and then taken away.

Here is what I think usual suspect would pop for under 20k used add trailer unless he does basements -earthmoving..

Bobcat E10 - Rental

would be in mini excavator class -used footings -yes a hole---could ususal suspect if it was him...worked on search site sat late not get done- comeback sun am pushed spread a little dirt- took machine-getting done coincedentially just when neighbor light went on ? I'd send Lauren and duplicate the noise if possible. If she is being considered credible- i.d the noise could be critical. On second thought easier to look up the decible rating of each piece of equipment then somehow simulate 105db or 140db for neighbor to listen to is it this loud Audrey?
Here is a compactor:

like this but for usual suspects equipment
Noise Source Sound Level NRR Needed Time Allowed Airboat 108 dBA 30 2 minutes Band Saw 104 dBA 26 6 minutes Blender 91 dBA 13 2 hours Blower 99 dBA 21 19 minutes Concrete Saw 112 dBA 34 1 minute Chain Saw 110 dBA 32 1 ½ minutes Combine operator 95 dBA 17 48 minutes Compressed Air 92 dBA 14 1 hr. 35 minutes Edger 86 dBA 8 6 hrs. 20 minutes Fire Alarms 95 dBA 17 48 minutes Front End Loader 95 dBA 17 48 minutes Hedge Trimmer 103 dBA 25 7 ½ minutes Juice Extractor 86 dBA 8 6 hrs. 20 minutes Miter Saw 109 dBA 31 2 minutes Plant Tissue Grinder 90 dBA 12 2 hrs. 30 minutes Pneumatic Staking 103 dBA 25 7 ½ minutes Pressure Washer 100 dBA 22 15 minutes Radial Arm Saw 103 dBA 25 7 ½ minutes Riding Lawn Mower 90 dBA 12 2 hrs. 30 minutes Sprayer, 1,000 gal. 101 dBA 23 12 minutes Tablesaw 93 dBA 15 1 hr. 16 minutes Tractor 92 dBA 14 1 hr 35 minutes Vacuum 87 dBA 7 5 hours Weedeater 96 dBA 18 38 minutes Wet/Dry Vac 94 dBA 16 1 hour

and
How many decibels is a wood chipper?
100-110 dB

 

[Lilypad13]

Reporting noise at the site is the kind of thing the Sheriff was asking to be reported.

MOO someone was trying to call attention to the noise. MOO pairing their phone and plausible activity at the work site.
Whether a person close to SM or a stranger, MOO she will be found in the isolated stretches of Hwy 50 south of Salida.

Why would someone want to draw attention to the work site if she was disposed off of Hwy 50 south of Salida? Just to mislead the investigation? Or are you suggesting by stranger that someone else killed SM and was trying to frame BM?

There are dozens of ways to deal with the animals killed in hunting. But I know only of a few of the legitimate ones, not the methods used to hide a hideous crime, but you could guess it would be similar = animal/human body.
In my experience hunters who are camped out and wanted to hunt for a few days would clean their deer, maybe put some muslin around it to keep off flies, then string it way up in a tree many yards from the tent. Someday I will tell you about the time we did that, but the grizzly got it anyway. But a lot of people just go day hunting and bring their prey back to their truck. I'm sorry, there are lots of ways to make a harvested deer lighter before hiking out with it. So many people on this board know more about cadaverine than I do. But, remember, if a person wanted to kill someone and move that body far away before dealing with it, they could in effect move a live body that has been demobilized one way or another, ie would not smell unusual.
One thing I would like to know, if a person had a leakproof plastic tote in the back of their pickup or truck, and if that tote had a dead body in it, could there be scent for the dogs if the whole container was moved out of the pickup within a couple hours of being placed there. Anyway, disposing of her via dismemberment would be my guess. Look at the Vanessa Guillen case, cement, dismemberment, and being discovered seemingly through carelessness of the alleged murderer.

Animal/human = similar things can be done. I get it...beyond awful and gruesome to think about but I can see how a hunter who murders someone and has to dispose of the body would think like a hunter.

Edit: Sorry didn’t mean those to be posted together...not sure what I did.

 

[PaulaDC]

bbm
Exactly. ^^^

Re. the bolded : Oh, I think he is.

Plus there's the $$ from the gimmee fund that he can use for his defense.
So unfair to Suzanne.
Imo.

That money is loooong gone. It gets deposited into your bank account designated by the owner of the bank account it is hooked up to.

 

[K9Enzo]

I saw a new video this morning of the dig site property with a new driveway. It’s dark, looks like asphalt they use on roads and sort of circular. I remembered an OP discussing a driveway permit. Do you think the FBI had scent dogs cover the entire property and not just where the concrete was poured? What about the ground penetrating radar used over the concrete...did they use it over the dirt areas as well? I feel certain they covered the entire property. But just what if the loud machinery during the night was someone digging a hole in the ground closer to the street where the driveway was going in the future? In the photos of the dig site, all the action was focused under the concrete slab and the pilings area near the river. I believe Suzanne is most likely somewhere else but is there a small chance she could have been missed? The loud noise heard by the neighbor is hard to dismiss without another explanation. Why and who was there running equipment that late? It’s such a big coincidence. From what we have learned about the scent dogs from you they would have been able to smell cadaverine through anything - plastic, wood, concrete, metal, lime, etc. I wonder what made the FBI cut out that rectangle in the concrete and focus the dig & sift operation in that location?

The bolded.

IMO - when using HRD dogs, they really aren't used to just wander around and randomly sniff areas. So I think it's more probable they didn't search that entire property unless LE said -SM could be anywhere here, that's what our investigation indicates. Then they may have searched the entire property.

You want the dog to have the best shot at success so the way they are utilized usually has a more thought out strategy based on info from LE (we sometimes forget in many call out's, when the dog doesn't alert, it's most likely because there's simply nothing there -this is very useful tool for LE as well).

I know of a handler that wants her team to collect all the info needed to develop the best search strategy and not share any of it with her ahead of time. She likes to bring her dog in completely blind as to not influence her dog in any way, he's that in-tuned with HER body language, voice variations, etc.

I could further speculate that they drilled/removed small concrete sections to help release any odors, that may be present, to help the dogs narrow the search down. I don't mean entire slabs like it appears they did. I believe one reason why ground penetrating radar is useful, is it can detect bodies wrapped in plastic, as an example. All my opinion.

Were we ever able to confirm if dogs were on-site during LE site dig?

 

[Lilypad13]

They would need the "bucket" attachment or one of the other attachments like the "auger" that can drill a deep hole or the "backhoe" attachment.

Im not sure how deep a hole one could make with just the "bucket" on the front but people can get creative with those machines and I suspect a person could easily get down about 4-5 feet or more with a regular bucket attachment on the front.

Link below shows all the attachments like the bucket and auger bit. From what I remember of the photo of SM's home with the Bobcat, it did have the bucket on the front. I cant seem to find the aerial photo of the home that showed the Bobcat.

ETA-The "backhoe" attachment would be even better if BM had that attachment. Not sure if he had that one. The bucket attachment on front could dig as well though, but probably not as deep as the backhoe attachment.

Bobcat Attachments - Bobcat Company

Here is what I think usual suspect would pop for under 20k used add trailer unless he does basements -earthmoving..

Bobcat E10 - Rental

would be in mini excavator class -used footings -yes a hole---could ususal suspect if it was him...worked on search site sat late not get done- comeback sun am pushed spread a little dirt- took machine-getting done coincedentially just when neighbor light went on ? I'd send Lauren and duplicate the noise if possible. If she is being considered credible- i.d the noise could be critical. On second thought easier to look up the decible rating of each piece of equipment then somehow simulate 105db or 140db for neighbor to listen to is it this loud Audrey?
Here is a compactor:

Thanks you guys! I get it now that there are interchangeable attachments for the Bobcat. Maybe BM has the backhoe or other attachments in his garage or work storage place. I have seen that compactor machine being used at a construction site where they are building a new home in my neighborhood when I was walking my dog. I had no idea what the worker was doing because it looked sort of like a lawnmower but now it makes sense. It was quite loud actually and made a thumping vibrating sound.

 

[Dr.StClements]

Maybe it was presented to her as necessary in order to meet familial financial needs. IDK JMO

Very possibly, as the Guardianship application related to the sale of a property in Indiana, which was scheduled for completion at the beginning of June, 2020.
It's also noteworthy, IMO, that SM's family reported they had not been made aware of BM's plans to apply for guardianship. His application was submitted to the court less than a month after SM was reported missing, so the daughters would most likely still be in frantic family search mode mindsets, and probably impervious (at that time) to the groundswell of rumours re BM's involvement.

 

[NuttMegg]

Why would someone want to draw attention to the work site if she was disposed off of Hwy 50 south of Salida? Just to mislead the investigationAre you suggesting someone else was trying to frame BM?

Animal/human = similar things can be done. I get it...beyond awful and gruesome to think about but I can see how a hunter who murders someone and has to dispose of the body would think like a hunter.

Yes, especially the disarticulation, let's put it that way. I never killed a deer, but I dealt with probably 100 of them afterwards, it's easy because many bones can be easily separated with just a sharp knife. I'm leaning towards premeditation as others have mentioned. His apparent peace in the aftermath of her disappearance leads me to believe he got over her sometime in the past, and is now not grieving but relieved, imo, with well thought out financial steps on the agenda 1) Saturday night comes home, not even aware she has been texting 2) gets her to the vehicle alive but restrained 3) drives to pre arranged spot to kill her, maybe doing it in a tote where no fluids or smell would remain at the spot, 4) drive to pre-thought out place to scatter remains, (up some mountain road, or in plastic bags in bins, stopping now and then) 5) back home in time to leave at 5 am, getting rid of tote or container or ice chest somewhere like in pieces in garbage bins. But I still think that 5 am hour has something tying it to the time line, like he had to be seen, or not to be seen, or....what? Also, he had to be oblivious to the interruption (or topic of) of texting, because it was a red flag.

ETA well the phone had to be taken by him. Maybe he knew how to smash/burn the card or whatever, to stop further action from the phone.

 

[PaulaDC]

We only know what's been reported from the neighbor, being awakened by construction equipment, over the course of a half hour. Then when she turned on lights and opened the door to look out, silence.

Just occurred to me, what she DIDN'T report hearing (at least to MSM) is, subsequent to that, a personal vehicle start up and drive away.

Possible explanations:

She heard that and reported it.

She DIDN'T hear OR report it because

a) she was asleep again when the vehicle departed

b) the vehicle was running the entire time, too quietly for her to hear

c) the start up was quiet and her poor hearing simply didn't hear it

What equipment could have been powered up, such that, when the lights went on, operation could cease? Was its purpose complete?

Digger?

Woodchipper?

Auger for footings? Didn't several fail? Perhaps someone prepared additional columns for footings in an area that didn't REQUIRE footings.... Fill them back in, finish with landscape boulders or more soil.... nice, deep hidey holes.

Suzanne unexpectedly stops texting Saturday evening... and a very short time later, someone is hard at work, at night, in the dark.

Oddly industrious, no?



JMOJMOJMO

Why are all those collumns around the river side of that home they dug up anyways? And they were all dug up. What are the purpose as the house foundation was in front of those?

 

[Dr.StClements]

I honestly appreciate your post! But to be fair - I never mentioned her age or demeanor. Not all calls to LE are true or as they seem. Nothing wrong with her calling it in. She absolutely should have. LE will sort it out to determine if it's credible or not. Maybe they did and that resulted in the site dig. *I* just don't believe the site dig was because of her info. IMO

Perhaps the site dig was based on triangulated data. We know, from previous reports, that this woman was not the only person reporting something they felt to be significant about the case. The owner of the site where the house is being built volunteered that he had contacted police to inform them that the husband of the missing woman was working at the building site. He also said that he'd known BM for only 3 weeks prior to the work commencing and that it was BM who'd initiated contact, saying that he was looking for landscaping/site work in the area.
So those are two independent witness accounts that the public know about, and there's likely to be several more that LE has information on, whereas the public don't.

 

[Boxer]

Why would someone want to draw attention to the work site if she was disposed off of Hwy 50 south of Salida? Just to mislead the investigation? Or are you suggesting by stranger that someone else killed SM and was trying to frame BM?

Animal/human = similar things can be done. I get it...beyond awful and gruesome to think about but I can see how a hunter who murders someone and has to dispose of the body would think like a hunter.

Edit: Sorry didn’t mean those to be posted together...not sure what I did.

Go to worksite at 9pm, leave phone proceed down Hwy 50 in a pre GPS car. Round trip 30 -60 minutes. Return to work site make noise loading equipment.

 

[Lilypad13]

The bolded.

IMO - when using HRD dogs, they really aren't used to just wander around and randomly sniff areas. So I think it's more probable they didn't search that entire property unless LE said -SM could be anywhere here, that's what our investigation indicates. Then they may have searched the entire property.

You want the dog to have the best shot at success so the way they are utilized usually has a more thought out strategy based on info from LE (we sometimes forget in many call out's, when the dog doesn't alert, it's most likely because there's simply nothing there -this is very useful tool for LE as well).

I know of a handler that wants her team to collect all the info needed to develop the best search strategy and not share any of it with her ahead of time. She likes to bring her dog in completely blind as to not influence her dog in any way, he's that in-tuned with HER body language, voice variations, etc.

I could further speculate that they drilled/removed small concrete sections to help release any odors, that may be present, to help the dogs narrow the search down. I don't mean entire slabs like it appears they did. I believe one reason why ground penetrating radar is useful, is it can detect bodies wrapped in plastic, as an example. All my opinion.

Were we ever able to confirm if dogs were on-site during LE site dig?

Yes I think it was reported on MSM or maybe CCSO that a search was done using dogs and gpr at the site but not positive and there was a photo of a handler there on site holding a dog leash but would have to search media thread for link and I’ve got to peel myself away soon and get something productive done today. I wonder if it was just one dog or multiple dogs? And if Suzanne was wrapped in plastic or a game bag or in an ice chest or whatever other options we can think of here - would a dog who was only led around the slab and river area be able to smell someone buried in the ground much closer to the street under what is now a driveway? I’m going to go back and look at those photos again and see if there is anything near the street that looks different from the area around it. I’m obsessed. What if all this time and after that big excavation by the FBI she is still there?!

 

[NuttMegg]

Sorry, what happened to SM's phone? Do we know?

 

[Gigi3]

Sorry, what happened to SM's phone? Do we know?

We have never been given that information. No pings or anything, which is unusual in a “missing” persons case, IMO.

 

[NuttMegg]

We have never been given that information. No pings or anything, which is unusual in a “missing” persons case, IMO.

So we don't know if the police have it? Or maybe the abductor took it.

 

[Dr.StClements]

Yes, it was.

It was still open just over a week ago, as was her Instagram account.

 

[Gigi3]

So we don't know if the police have it? Or maybe the abductor took it.

Exactly. I feel like LE must have it because surely we would know if they were looking for it?

However, LE has been so tight lipped about everything else...

 

[Dr.StClements]

Yes I think it was reported on MSM or maybe CCSO that a search was done using dogs and gpr at the site but not positive and there was a photo of a handler there on site holding a dog leash but would have to search media thread for link and I’ve got to peel myself away soon and get something productive done today. I wonder if it was just one dog or multiple dogs? And if Suzanne was wrapped in plastic or a game bag or in an ice chest or whatever other options we can think of here - would a dog who was only led around the slab and river area be able to smell someone buried in the ground much closer to the street under what is now a driveway? I’m going to go back and look at those photos again and see if there is anything near the street that looks different from the area around it. I’m obsessed. What if all this time and after that big excavation by the FBI she is still there?!

The earliest news feeds reported both cadaver and retrieve dogs being used at the first BM/SM property search, and cadaver dogs being utilised at the building site.

 

[Boxer]

Yes I think it was reported on MSM or maybe CCSO that a search was done using dogs and gpr at the site but not positive and there was a photo of a handler there on site holding a dog leash but would have to search media thread for link and I’ve got to peel myself away soon and get something productive done today. I wonder if it was just one dog or multiple dogs? And if Suzanne was wrapped in plastic or a game bag or in an ice chest or whatever other options we can think of here - would a dog who was only led around the slab and river area be able to smell someone buried in the ground much closer to the street under what is now a driveway? I’m going to go back and look at those photos again and see if there is anything near the street that looks different from the area around it. I’m obsessed. What if all this time and after that big excavation by the FBI she is still there?!

Just MOO nothing identifiable from her home environment will be found with SM.