Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #27

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  • #501
I wish she would have said if BM asked if they had cameras, I would expect that.

Funny you should mention cameras. Now that Fox21 has reported on the Note, I think this is a good question for LS to ask the store manager of PS Market whether or not BM made any inquiry about their store surveillance, or if he asked whether or not LE had asked to view their surveillance.

Unfortunately, one of the problems with coming forward with information is that its near guarantee you'll be attacked by social media groups. I recall hearing the FB'ers were challenging the manager on the authenticity of the Note and her response was that BM was on store surveillance that would confirm he stopped and left the note.
MOO
 
  • #502
BM's Evd at IN Guardianship?
@lamlawindy bbm sbm Thanks for your response.
IIRC, BM/BM's atty must put on evd that SM "cannot be located upon reasonable inquiry" so ct can make finding that SM is an ICP.* Also iiuc, petition asked ct to take judicial notice of MSM reports of SM's missing status, and apparently the judge did, for temp Letters and Apptmt, which iirc, applied only to permit closing of that one pending IN. prop sale.
At Sept. hearing, what can BM/BM's atty offer as evd that SM "cannot be located upon reasonable inquiry."


Is it likely ct would rule evd is not sufficient for to find either -
--- SM could not be located, in view of only 3-4 mo's having passed since reported missing or
--- reasonable inquiry had not been made yet, in view of only 3-4 mo's having passed since reported missing.
AND
therefore SM is not ICP? Ergo, temp g'ship is terminated?
As always I welcome comment, clarification, correction, esp'ly from our legal professionals.
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* 3. http://iga.in.gov/legislative/laws/2019/ic/titles/029#29-3-1-7.5
GUARDIANSHIPS & PROTECTIVE PROCEEDINGS

"Sec. 7.5. "Incapacitated person" means an individual who:
(1) cannot be located upon reasonable inquiry;"
IN statute permits ct to extend temp G'ship for additional 90 days.
 
  • #503
Funny you should mention cameras. Now that Fox21 has reported on the Note, I think this is a good question for LS to ask the store manager of PS Market whether or not BM made any inquiry about their store surveillance, or if he asked whether or not LE had asked to view their surveillance.

Unfortunately, one of the problems with coming forward with information is that its near guarantee you'll be attacked by social media groups. I recall hearing the FB'ers were challenging the manager on the authenticity of the Note and her response was that BM was on store surveillance that would confirm he stopped and left the note.
MOO


seriously, i don't think i have ever witnessed a case where people are so divided about the main "poi's" guilt, and facebook is the main (dumpster fire) stage for people to express it. it's nuts. i would love to know the psychology behind what makes posters go to someone's personal page leave horrible comments! it boggles the mind.

go back and read the comments on the newest daily mail article i posted yesterday. it's divided there as well, only slightly less derisive than fb. here's the link: Husband of missing Colorado mom Suzanne Morphew, 49, claims cops have 'destroyed evidence' | Daily Mail Online

*some very interesting comments there, too.
 
  • #504
I agree with you on this, @tmar. BM knew the property owner lived out of state. He didn’t consider the fact that neighbors might might notice someone out there in the middle of the night. Furthermore, he thought his plan was so foolproof that LE would be looking anywhere but in his direction. MOO


i think, too, that he thought he could get away with it bc he has money. he thought he wouldn't be a suspect bc "rich bros" don't have to pay the same price as us peasants, and they would NEVER suspect him, and he's a firefighter, too. he thought LE would, naturally, believe his story from the get-go bc he's one of them. that's the kind of guy he comes across as to me. arrogant.
 
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I was also under the impression that the storekeeper was not aware there was a missing cyclist (SM) and asked BM for a description of his wife and what she was last seen wearing when BM reportedly went to his truck and came back with his 3 line description that he'd jotted down on the back of a receipt. (i.e., baby blue bike, helmet, biking clothing).

RSBM

His note wasn't very helpful, but I'd kind of like to see what's printed on the OTHER side of it.

Date, time-stamped records are often VERY helpful.

Could LE get so lucky that he'd use the back of an incriminating receipt?

JMO total conjecture
 
  • #507
BM's Evd at IN Guardianship?
@lamlawindy bbm sbm Thanks for your response.
IIRC, BM/BM's atty must put on evd that SM "cannot be located upon reasonable inquiry" so ct can make finding that SM is an ICP.* Also iiuc, petition asked ct to take judicial notice of MSM reports of SM's missing status, and apparently the judge did, for temp Letters and Apptmt, which iirc, applied only to permit closing of that one pending IN. prop sale.
At Sept. hearing, what can BM/BM's atty offer as evd that SM "cannot be located upon reasonable inquiry."


Is it likely ct would rule evd is not sufficient for to find either -
--- SM could not be located, in view of only 3-4 mo's having passed since reported missing or
--- reasonable inquiry had not been made yet, in view of only 3-4 mo's having passed since reported missing.
AND
therefore SM is not ICP? Ergo, temp g'ship is terminated?
As always I welcome comment, clarification, correction, esp'ly from our legal professionals.
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* 3. Indiana Code 2019 - Indiana General Assembly, 2020 Session
GUARDIANSHIPS & PROTECTIVE PROCEEDINGS

"Sec. 7.5. "Incapacitated person" means an individual who:
(1) cannot be located upon reasonable inquiry;"
IN statute permits ct to extend temp G'ship for additional 90 days.

"Cannot be located upon reasonable inquiry"

He did put out that 26-second facebook video.

"Oh, Suzanne, if anyone is out there who can hear this, who has you..."

Facebook is a pretty big newspaper. Maybe he's hoping it's a sufficient platform for legal notice.

Gotta hand it to him -- not only did he cover all the mountains, he covered all the countries.

Come September, I hope the the Court is fully aware of the circumstances surrounding Suzanne being missing and does everything to protect her interests, including from anyone who brought her harm and/or attempts to profit from her absence.

We need justice for Suzanne. For her memory, for her daughters, for her father and brother, her friends and entire family.

Let's find her and bring her home. It's not too soon.

JMO
 
  • #508
I thought they shut down in person/physical presence at schools - but switched to online platform like other school systems? Or did they just shut down completely?

My nieces/nephews attending various colleges went online and kept the schedule for exams/end of year tests, etc.
I remember exams were always in May around MD.
JMO
Ski areas and schools all closed, schools switched to online instruction but not immediately
 
  • #509
Jonbenet, Chris watts, patrick frazee, suzanne morphew. Colorado has by far the greatest number of horrific crimes against women and children in the country. Why?
All but Frazee moved there from elsewhere,
Colorado has always been a state with an influx of transplants and tourism
 
  • #510
Yes, it's all so predictable. Strike up the band and let's hear a rousing chorus of that old standard: Rush To Judgment.

All together now!


Oh dear. I think I've been misunderstood. When I said "rush to judgment", I was mocking what murderers claim. And how they always (as you say) sing the same old song.
Sorry, my mistake as I did misunderstand. Thank you for clearing it up though. :)
 
  • #511
After learning the demographics of the area (i.e., a clear understanding of BM's audience and his community), I've discussed BM's reward with individuals very similar to BM. I'm pretty confident with my control group. Let's just say they essentially confirmed my opinion of both BM's reward and the matching of the reward by his friend.

First, I don't believe SM was safe when the reward was offered.
I think BM's $100K was really no more than BM keeping up his bragging rights to his image. I think the match was probably half and half, goodwill, also somewhat bragging, and to shut or stop BM his tracks. Nobody one-uped him, but matching him was more or less the equivalent. MOO
Interesting to note the match reward family has not updated their FB page notice of flyer posted since June 7th
 
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  • #513
I'm speculating here with my own opinion but after BM's uncle Bob told LS that BM was his late brother's only son, I personally think BM exhibits the profile of the youngest child, raised by a mother and older sisters that treated him as if he was a prince.

I think women have been taking care of BM his entire life, and he still expects this -- including from his wife and daughters. I also think the women in his life have been enabling BM since early childhood to blame others whenever anything goes wrong, quickly dismissing the notion that BM could ever be at fault.

Let me be clear, I am not criticizing any of the women here because I believe they too are victims of narc BM that has long had the ability to charm and manipulate them for their ongoing, blind support. It's years of conditioning where not even the slightest hint of criticism can be tolerated by BM without triggering an outburst of 'narc rage.'

MOO
Excellent post @Seattle1, thank you!
Many people do not realize this phenomenon
but it certainly exists. It does mold the young boy for who/what he becomes when mature.

Notice who showed up for BM when trouble
happened, his mother. And she stayed at his home to fully support the little prince in his time of need. How old is he again?

Also may be reason BM may have preconceived
hostility w/ male LE/sheriff. Have they called him out for bad behavior before? Or does BM
'expect' other men not to fully buy or believe his BS that he's been spewing his whole life to puff up himself? Men often recognize his type
pretty quickly. And call him to task.
Wonder where his sisters have been in all this?
 
  • #514
BAM! Good post!

I think we are seeing a pattern emerge. The pattern is that of a liar. I don’t think this is something that BM just started doing as a result of this case. IMO, BM has always had a penchant for lying. I think he was called out for it in IN, and that could be one reason for the “new start” in CO.

Just from hearing/seeing everything we have learned So far, there is evidence that BM is a liar. Does that make him guilty of murder? No, but when you are innocent, there is NO need to tell these lies or make excuses for them.

We have heard from attorneys on this thread that he would be advised NOT to talk, and I think he probably was, but BM can NOT stand to let others have control of the narrative.

And then BM brings God into the story. IMO, he has done this Christian routine before and it served him well, so let’s sprinkle that into the mix.
I think BM fits the definition of an arrogant, narcissist to a T, but some who have been gaslighted before will probably continue to be, while others will see right through him.

I'm speculating here with my own opinion but after BM's uncle Bob told LS that BM was his late brother's only son, I personally think BM exhibits the profile of the youngest child, raised by a mother and older sisters that treated him as if he was a prince.

I think women have been taking care of BM his entire life, and he still expects this -- including from his wife and daughters. I also think the women in his life have been enabling BM since early childhood to blame others whenever anything goes wrong, quickly dismissing the notion that BM could ever be at fault.

Let me be clear, I am not criticizing any of the women here because I believe they too are victims of narc BM that has long had the ability to charm and manipulate them for their ongoing, blind support. It's years of conditioning where not even the slightest hint of criticism can be tolerated by BM without triggering an outburst of 'narc rage.'

MOO
These posts really nail BM.
 
  • #515
These posts really nail BM.
yeah, they do!!
My own speculation-
I think the gig was up with SM. After all these years she saw through his facade. Maybe the girls too. Then it would seem to BM like they were ganging up on him.
You can't possibly live under the same roof with this type man for years and years and not be cognizant of what he's doing. Always denying his responsibility. Not always telling the whole truth. Blaming others for his failings. This can get old, really old.

This is also the common period for middle aged men to go out and seek greener pastures.
Find a little new female that doesn't know his schtick. Someone who thinks he walks on water, still. Cause she doesn't really know him and his weaknesses and personality she accepts his BS at face value. She also accepts his stories of how his wife neglects him, won't do this or that anymore, and gladly becomes
'the other woman'. This gives him his 'power'
back. Now he has the confidence to move forward to change his drudgery life where nobody at home appreciates him anymore.
Old wifey becomes a thorn in his side, always
nagging, complaining. Gradually the love is
chipped away, whatever was there. His sights are on his new life that could be, if not for that one problem that stands in his way.
So he devises his plan to eliminate that one problem, that's the roadblock to this wonderful new life he wants.
Yup, this was all pre-planned.
moo
 
  • #516
I know a lady who has a husband that reminds me of BM. They also have two daughters. She said to me one time..if Bob isn’t happy then nobody is happy.

I wonder if Suzanne and the girls walked on eggshells around BM.

If Barry wasn’t happy then nobody was happy.
 
  • #517
yeah, they do!!
My own speculation-
I think the gig was up with SM. After all these years she saw through his facade. Maybe the girls too. Then it would seem to BM like they were ganging up on him.
You can't possibly live under the same roof with this type man for years and years and not be cognizant of what he's doing. Always denying his responsibility. Not always telling the whole truth. Blaming others for his failings. This can get old, really old.

This is also the common period for middle aged men to go out and seek greener pastures.
Find a little new female that doesn't know his schtick. Someone who thinks he walks on water, still. Cause she doesn't really know him and his weaknesses and personality she accepts his BS at face value. She also accepts his stories of how his wife neglects him, won't do this or that anymore, and gladly becomes
'the other woman'. This gives him his 'power'
back. Now he has the confidence to move forward to change his drudgery life where nobody at home appreciates him anymore.
Old wifey becomes a thorn in his side, always
nagging, complaining. Gradually the love is
chipped away, whatever was there. His sights are on his new life that could be, if not for that one problem that stands in his way.
So he devises his plan to eliminate that one problem, that's the roadblock to this wonderful new life he wants.
Yup, this was all pre-planned.
moo
I agree. Premeditated and as someone somewhere else commented, that’s why there hasn’t been an arrest yet, in their estimation. LE are going for the gusto. First degree.

Patience...........they’ll get there!
 
  • #518
I know a lady who has a husband that reminds me of BM. They also have two daughters. She said to me one time..if Bob isn’t happy then nobody is happy.

I wonder if Suzanne and the girls walked on eggshells around BM.

If Barry wasn’t happy then nobody was happy.
Men like this 'train' those around them over the years. They train the wife and kids that life is easier and less chaotic when they go along rather than go against.
I jokingly refer to these wives as dishrags, not in a disparaging way but it's how they get treated by the household ruler. The ruler whips them around like a dishrag, and has no respect for them.
I've seen this toooooo many times.
 
  • #519
To my knowledge there were no reports of any roads closed off that first night. We know that within 24 hours over 100 LE personnel were involved in the search. By Wednesday both the CBI and the FBI were involved. Searches continued all week and involved canine teams, divers, SAR, swift water rescand officers on foot. It was on Thursday that the personal item was discovered. The Sheriff said they discovered the personal item which I take to mean it was one of the LE searchers. CCSO had stated they did not need volunteers, but Barry stated that he and his teams were searching a 200 mile radius. BM said that LE would not tell him what the personal item was which ruled out one of his search teams.
When the Sheriff announced that the item had been found, he also announced the road closure on Friday. This was an important search because that is a very busy highway that goes west over Monarch Pass. It was reported that they did not find anything else during that search. We do know from published reports that official searches continued until at least Sunday when photos were posted of dive teams searching local waters.
Hope this helps.
Chaffee County Sheriff's Office
Yes, perfect. Thank you for this.

It brings more questions though. Im sure we have discussed this threads ago, but with what we know now I wonder - what was the significance of the "item" that caused a highway shutdown (a rare occurence) vs the bike (that LE wont speak of) not closing the area down?
 
  • #520
All but Frazee moved there from elsewhere,
Colorado has always been a state with an influx of transplants and tourism
there's been studies done on the impact on families who moved away from extended family to a far away place. The family dynamics can change drastically as can the stressors of new jobs, new schools, few friends.
Isolation from old extended families has been mentioned many times in these studies as having a deleterious effect on domestic relations and domestic violence.
We see this in my state (Florida) as many families are transplants.
 
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