Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #27

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  • #841
Oh yeah, I’m sure there will be a case for premeditated murder here.

My point is that I don’t think he woke up that morning, knowing that he would kill Suzanne.
ah, gotcha, and agree.

Do you believe they will at some point have enough evidence to arrest him?
 
  • #842
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lmao, when your right. your right. you too @enelram and @Megnut
 
  • #843
ah, gotcha, and agree.

Do you believe they will at some point have enough evidence to arrest him?
I absolutely do. The issue is we don’t know what they have in order to prove that Suzanne is in fact dead. If the physical evidence isn’t there, then this could take a while. Time is your friend in that regard, as the longer Suzanne is missing without any signs of life (witness sightings, financial activity, etc), the more likely it is that she is dead.

A crime like this doesn’t lend itself to getting away with it. There are just too many things to overcome (cell phone data, surveillance footage, witness sightings, GPS).

Had the CBI and FBI not been called in as fast as they were, and had this case been investigated solely by the sheriff’s department, I wouldn’t be anywhere near as confident.

Whatever it was that seems to have influenced law enforcement’s reaction from early on (they didn’t appear to be lost), just has to be damning.

The clock is ticking, and it’s only a matter of time.
 
  • #844
I’m in the fit of rage camp. Don’t know what caused it, but I think that he didn’t have a plan. I also believe on some level he is in denial, that because he may not have meant to kill Suzanne, somehow he feels less guilty.
 
  • #845
I always thought IF there was a homicide, that it was premeditated. Mainly based on the number of coincidences that weekend - warmer ground with the spring thaw, kids gone, little contact with people due to quarantine.

However, I've since changed my mind since BM seems to now concede that he was operating equipment at 11:30 at night. This doesn't seem like a planned event. Too much risk for detection (which turned out to be the case).

So I'm now in the fit-of-rage camp.

Either way ... that poor woman.
Well to the camp were all anxiously awaiting BM to officially be named a POI. Its infuriating the way BM cant be bothered to at all engage, encourage, or promote the finding of SM. I wish I was in Colorado so I could do something productive with my distaste for the man. And by that I mean like conduct a search party and nothing ominous except maybe giving him one of my classic cold as ice resting 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 face looks
 
  • #846
I think Barry is 100% guilty. I am completely on the fence as far as rage or premeditation.

I do think, under it all, Barry was already planning his life as a widow and was mightily disappointed after she survived this bout of cancer. Were they even together during the first one? No matter, because I think Barry was "Wild at Heart" and Suzanne wasn't buying that anymore.
Way back in these threads, I spoke as a cancer survivor about the hospital counseling that we received, warning us that it was possible our husbands would leave us or be very unhelpful during our trials -- the percentage is truly terrible. I think that BM was looking forward to the single life. I have no idea whether he had a girlfriend, but I believe he was disappointed that SM wasn't removed from his life naturally. Perhaps the rage simmered underneath for a while, and on that Saturday night it boiled over. And then he didn't have any idea how to clean it up. Telling the truth and turning himself in never occurred to him.
 
  • #847
Oh yeah, I’m sure there will be a case for premeditated murder here.

My point is that I don’t think he woke up that morning, knowing that he would kill Suzanne.

About time you showed up!

Then again, to quote your idol, Blanche from The Golden Girls: "Better late than pregnant."

JMO.
 
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  • #848
Well to the camp were all anxiously awaiting BM to officially be named a POI. Its infuriating the way BM cant be bothered to at all engage, encourage, or promote the finding of SM. I wish I was in Colorado so I could do something productive with my distaste for the man. And by that I mean like conduct a search party and nothing ominous except maybe giving him one of my classic cold as ice resting ***** face looks

I doubt BM will ever be named a POI. It seems to be pretty standard in Colorado that a case like this is termed “a missing persons investigation,” right up until an arrest.

We saw that in the Berreth and Stauch cases.

Once an arrest is made, I expect we’ll hear the all too familiar refrain: “sadly, we do not believe Suzanne is alive...”
 
  • #849
Way back in these threads, I spoke as a cancer survivor about the hospital counseling that we received, warning us that it was possible our husbands would leave us or be very unhelpful during our trials -- the percentage is truly terrible. I think that BM was looking forward to the single life. I have no idea whether he had a girlfriend, but I believe he was disappointed that SM wasn't removed from his life naturally. Perhaps the rage simmered underneath for a while, and on that Saturday night it boiled over. And then he didn't have any idea how to clean it up. Telling the truth and turning himself in never occurred to him.
I would like this 100x. And I think Barry heartily subscribed to the "Wild at Heart" thing.

MOO
 
  • #850
I doubt BM will ever be named a POI. It seems to be pretty standard in Colorado that a case like this is termed “a missing persons investigation,” right up until an arrest.

We saw that in the Berreth and Stauch cases.

Once an arrest is made, I expect we’ll hear the all too familiar refrain: “sadly, we do not believe Suzanne is alive...”
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO. I believe you, but as a totally random member of the public of another state, I wish they were a little more communicative. I know they have to hold things back for various reasons but man their really going for the "keeping it close to the vest title".

Sadly I agree. It bad enough this happened, but the not knowing what happened or why is just cruel and unusual to the families
 
  • #851
But if his intent was to kill her when he _____
____ SM, and his knowing that the ________ would cause her death, isn't that also consider premeditated if his intent was
to kill her even if it wasn't planned for that moment?
asking for a friend....

If I knew what the ______ you were asking, I might ________ be able to ________ ________ your question.
 
  • #852
I absolutely do. The issue is we don’t know what they have in order to prove that Suzanne is in fact dead. If the physical evidence isn’t there, then this could take a while. Time is your friend in that regard, as the longer Suzanne is missing without any signs of life (witness sightings, financial activity, etc), the more likely it is that she is dead.

A crime like this doesn’t lend itself to getting away with it. There are just too many things to overcome (cell phone data, surveillance footage, witness sightings, GPS).

Had the CBI and FBI not been called in as fast as they were, and had this case been investigated solely by the sheriff’s department, I wouldn’t be anywhere near as confident.

Whatever it was that seems to have influenced law enforcement’s reaction from early on (they didn’t appear to be lost), just has to be damning.

The clock is ticking, and it’s only a matter of time.
Yes absolutely, tick tock BM......

So nice to “see” you, you’ve been missed!! :)

IMHO
 
  • #853
To be honest everyone, Ive never really watched the news because I find it depressing. (dont worry i use daily apps to stay informed). So as a result I usually start following cases closer to trial. This is the first time Im watching a missing persons case unfold as it happens. Is it typical for LE to release so little to the public? Should we consider it a good or bad sign or no sign at all?
 
  • #854
That's a whole lotta magical thinking, poor BM.
Oh yeah, I’m sure there will be a case for premeditated murder here.

My point is that I don’t think he woke up that morning, knowing that he would kill Suzanne.

I agree. I forget that premeditation doesn't have to mean days of planning and preparation.
Btw, hope Tampa Bay is treating you right. Good of you to give us a little of your precious time.
 
  • #855
If I knew what the ______ you were asking, I might ________ be able to ________ ________ your question.
aww can'tcha read the puzzle??
just insert the act of ---------------
using a --------------
there, does that help?
 
  • #856
To be honest everyone, Ive never really watched the news because I find it depressing. (dont worry i use daily apps to stay informed). So as a result I usually start following cases closer to trial. This is the first time Im watching a missing persons case unfold as it happens. Is it typical for LE to release so little to the public? Should we consider it a good or bad sign or no sign at all?

Half the cases I have followed on here were Colorado ones. The silence is standard.

I take it as a very positive sign, as frustrating as that is. If we were seeing frequent press conferences, then I’d actually be concerned. That would be a sign that law enforcement isn’t remotely close to making an arrest; it would be a sign that they need a great deal of help.

In the Berreth case, they initially handled it as if all options were on the table (detailed missing persons flyer, last known video, major press conference).

We didn’t see that here, and I have to believe there’s a solid basis for that behavior. This isn’t the CBI and FBI’s first rodeo.
 
  • #857
Way back in these threads, I spoke as a cancer survivor about the hospital counseling that we received, warning us that it was possible our husbands would leave us or be very unhelpful during our trials -- the percentage is truly terrible. I think that BM was looking forward to the single life. I have no idea whether he had a girlfriend, but I believe he was disappointed that SM wasn't removed from his life naturally. Perhaps the rage simmered underneath for a while, and on that Saturday night it boiled over. And then he didn't have any idea how to clean it up. Telling the truth and turning himself in never occurred to him.
Good on you @Goldenseal that you survived the disease and are here to tell us about it.

We also had a first-person account of BM attending one treatment with his wife. According SM's fellow patient, BM seemed annoyed he was there (esp. in comparison to her daughters that usually accompanied Mom to treatment).

I agree that BM's distancing and discard had already started. I would not be surprised if SM confronted BM about it on Saturday -- given the opportunity that their daughters were away and would not be subject to his narc rage.

MOO
 
  • #858
To be honest everyone, Ive never really watched the news because I find it depressing. (dont worry i use daily apps to stay informed). So as a result I usually start following cases closer to trial. This is the first time Im watching a missing persons case unfold as it happens. Is it typical for LE to release so little to the public? Should we consider it a good or bad sign or no sign at all?
My personal opinion and thoughts as a Crime Hag going way back.

I think LE used to be much more "out" to the public, asking for tips, leads, nuggets. Now, with electronic data so very on-the-nose, they don't have that need so much. It's very hard now to NOT leave some sort of electronic footprint, and I think, takes a tremendous amount of research and willingness or ability to leave a lot behind, like a phone, watch, current vehicle, debit card,etc. It's really difficult to be untraceable these days. Which also creates suspicions.

I also think a lot of the crazy social media impedes cases now. NOT WS, I'm talking the crazy reddit, FB groups, whatever else. Creates a lot of distraction for LE. So, the less they say, the less chance of it getting muddied and muddled. Some of the FB stuff I am reading about this case right now is just laughable, it's just so ridiculous and out there. And the lesser crime You Tubers? Oh my giddy aunt. I want a unicorn, too! They are that level of credible.

So, I understand LE keeping it quiet. It hurts my dark crime hag heart, but I get it and I believe in justice, so, there we are.
xo
 
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  • #859
If I knew what the ______ you were asking, I might ________ be able to ________ ________ your question.
Let me give it a shot!
1. Strangled
2. Strangling
Just a wild guess! Now with respect to your “fill in the blanks,” I’m drawing a blank :p:D
eta: except the first one h e l l, right? Do I get a point for that one?
 
  • #860
aww can'tcha read the puzzle??
just insert the act of ---------------
using a --------------
there, does that help?
got it .... thanks
 

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