Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #28

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  • #501
They may not have know he was out-of-town but I have a feeling he was keeping a VERY close eye on his phone that day. Whether or not he immediately answered those texts or calls is another matter!
Those phone records are going to have a story to tell. If his phone was on, it’s going to tell law enforcement where he was, and when he was there.

If his phone stopped moving, it’s likely to point law enforcement to areas of interest, assuming that he had no reason to be in a particular place.

If his phone was off for certain periods of time, that could hamper things substantially. I think there are going to be dead spots in his movements, where he was effectively off the grid.
 
  • #502
‘An animal did not attack her’: Missing Suzanne Morphew’s brother says he thinks someone tossed her bike down a hill; pleads with Barry Morphew to take a polygraph test

Moorman told Fox News that he and Barry Morphew went to the area where Suzanne’s bike had reportedly been found; his comments indicate that the bike was found at the bottom of a hill. As CrimeOnline previously reported, Suzanne’s husband has floated the idea that his wife may have encountered a mountain lion while riding her bike.

“I said to Barry ‘Hey, I don’t think she fell off the hill on that bicycle or rode over the edge.’ I said, ‘I believe a human being threw this down here,'” Moorman told Fox News.

“An animal did not attack her because there absolutely was no blood evidence and no tracks on the ground, no scent from an animal,” he said. “I stood there and looked and I realized that nobody rode over the side of that hill. There would have been signs of a struggle or you would have been skinned up.”
 
  • #503
I honestly think it could go either way. The one thing BM does seem to show concern about, is how hes being perceived by the public. Now that SM brother has made a very specific and public plea to him, he may feel forced to do something. They left him no wriggle room or loops to sneak out of talking to LE (they clearly know his sneaky style well) Doing nothing could be just as bad a doing something. Granted hes a mixed bag of decision making so you could be right

True. It is a 50 - 50 chance and i think the girls is a lot of pressure for him too. I hope he will give a confession and get it over with. Jmo
 
  • #504
I honestly think it could go either way. The one thing BM does seem to show concern about, is how hes being perceived by the public. Now that SM brother has made a very specific and public plea to him, he may feel forced to do something. They left him no wriggle room or loops to sneak out of talking to LE (they clearly know his sneaky style well) Doing nothing could be just as bad a doing something. Granted hes a mixed bag of decision making so you could be right
I think BM’s control over those girls is strong. One is twenty. She has witnessed her beloved mom going through chemo for her cancer. She KNOWS what that does to a body. She knows how scary cancer can be and yet she has not reached out to her grandfather. Does she even know her grandfather has cancer? I guess that depends on when GM was diagnosed, before or after SM “disappeared.” How completely did BM isolate SM and his daughters from SM’s family?
 
  • #505
Not sure if already posted?

FOX News video interview with Andy Moorman
Brother of Suzanne Morphew speaks out about his sister's disappearance

Whoa. Thanks for posting this, osu!

Very powerful statement by Suzanne's brother.

AM, speaking directly to BM:

"Please Barry, if you can see this, I would really love it if you would take the time to revisit the authorities and go over everything once again. Take a voice analysis and a lie detector and clear yourself. Put my mind at ease and everybody out there's mind at ease. If you want to shut the rumors down, that's the way you do it.

You need to find your wife. That should be your only goal, is to find your wife.
And whatever you're asked to do by the authorities, is what you should do.
If you're not guilty, step up to the plate."


I love that he used a baseball expression there at the end to call out BM.

JMO.
 
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  • #506
‘An animal did not attack her’: Missing Suzanne Morphew’s brother says he thinks someone tossed her bike down a hill; pleads with Barry Morphew to take a polygraph test

Moorman told Fox News that he and Barry Morphew went to the area where Suzanne’s bike had reportedly been found; his comments indicate that the bike was found at the bottom of a hill. As CrimeOnline previously reported, Suzanne’s husband has floated the idea that his wife may have encountered a mountain lion while riding her bike.

“I said to Barry ‘Hey, I don’t think she fell off the hill on that bicycle or rode over the edge.’ I said, ‘I believe a human being threw this down here,'” Moorman told Fox News.

“An animal did not attack her because there absolutely was no blood evidence and no tracks on the ground, no scent from an animal,” he said. “I stood there and looked and I realized that nobody rode over the side of that hill. There would have been signs of a struggle or you would have been skinned up.”

Its interesting how he came to the same conclusion as most of us did about the bicycle being thrown down there by an individual.

We only had news articles and things to work with but he was actually able to see the location and came to the same conclusion.

For me, it wasnt until one of the TD videos where we saw the alleged location of the bike where I finally concluded the bicycle should have been closer to the top if she had a normal wreck or even if an animal pounced from the side and knocked her off the side. I dont think the bike would have been that far down because of the brush we were seeing that went all the way to the top. I feel the bike would have gotten tangled and hung up more closer to the top.

To me, it looked like someone was standing on the road and was swinging the bike off the road to make it that far down without tangling in the brush closer to the top near the road.
JMO
 
  • #507
Yes, so much! And just like PF keeping that beautiful baby from her grandparents, BM is doing the same thing with his girls, ending contact with the Moormans. Tells you just what kind of guy he is. No character, no empathy for what that family is going through knowing their daughter and sister is gone and now they are being denied access to SM’s children too :mad:

I guess I am missing something, how is a 21 year old is being denied access to the Moormans?
 
  • #508
Its interesting how he came to the same conclusion as most of us did about the bicycle being thrown down there by an individual.

We only had news articles and things to work with but he was actually able to see the location and came to the same conclusion.

For me, it wasnt until one of the TD videos where we saw the alleged location of the bike where I finally concluded the bicycle should have been closer to the top if she had a normal wreck or even if an animal pounced from the side and knocked her off the side. I dont think the bike would have been that far down because of the brush we were seeing that went all the way to the top. I feel the bike would have gotten tangled and hung up more closer to the top.

To me, it looked like someone was standing on the road and was swinging the bike off the road to make it that far down without tangling in the brush closer to the top near the road.
JMO
I reached that conclusion based on law enforcement’s behavior, in that they didn’t treat this as an abduction. The only explanation I could come up with, is that the bike was planted.

If there’s no abduction, then a bike ride is spectacularly unlikely.

I think the reason the bike was thrown so far, is that BM wanted to delay the discovery of the bike, which would in turn delay discovery of Suzanne’s disappearance. He had to put time and distance between that location, and establish an alibi.

The problem is that he apparently does not know how real life works, and how crimes are committed.
 
  • #509
True. It is a 50 - 50 chance and i think the girls is a lot of pressure for him too. I hope he will give a confession and get it over with. Jmo
I wish! But I doubt he has any intention of confessing to anything. jmo
 
  • #510
Its interesting how he came to the same conclusion as most of us did about the bicycle being thrown down there by an individual.

We only had news articles and things to work with but he was actually able to see the location and came to the same conclusion.

For me, it wasnt until one of the TD videos where we saw the alleged location of the bike where I finally concluded the bicycle should have been closer to the top if she had a normal wreck or even if an animal pounced from the side and knocked her off the side. I dont think the bike would have been that far down because of the brush we were seeing that went all the way to the top. I feel the bike would have gotten tangled and hung up more closer to the top.

To me, it looked like someone was standing on the road and was swinging the bike off the road to make it that far down without tangling in the brush closer to the top near the road.
JMO

Yes, agree. I'm a longtime mountain-biker and as I think I mentioned in a long-ago thread, a MB is not an easy thing to throw, especially for someone who isn't used to their trajectory in a legitimate spill or their weight and balance.

Having fallen from dozens of bikes in hundreds of rides across a baffling variety of terrains ;), an MB bike has a pretty regular, even predictable, range of ways in which it can fall and land, and hoisting itself over or though brush and/or reversing its orientation or course in defiance of the physics of falling is definitely a red flag, IMO. I'd be surprised if LE didn't run a few tests with a similar bike to test BM Accident Hypothesis #1.
 
  • #511
I think BM’s control over those girls is strong. One is twenty. She has witnessed her beloved mom going through chemo for her cancer. She KNOWS what that does to a body. She knows how scary cancer can be and yet she has not reached out to her grandfather. Does she even know her grandfather has cancer? I guess that depends on when GM was diagnosed, before or after SM “disappeared.” How completely did BM isolate SM and his daughters from SM’s family?
I think he started icing SM's family pretty early on. He didnt inform them about filing for guardianship and he lied about taking the lie detector test and cooperation to appease them. Fortunately Im sure he told the girls any number of lies to end the communication. No one want to think their dad would lie about something like this so I dont fault them for not reaching out on their own. I mean look how long it took CD kids to realize theyd been lied to. Dads are suppose to protect their kids, not use their influence to severe all contact with their spouses family. Its like hes trying to erase her family from his life so he can pretend he never existed
 
  • #512
I agree that many people do not look at the phones while working, or even have them on their person. They might leave them in their truck and check at lunch etc. I wonder if the girls were even aware that Dad was out of town.

This brings me to ask another question. I am not sleuthing the girls, they are victims.

Does anyone know, if public knowledge, how the girls were returning home from their trip? Did they drive the whole trip to and from? Or did they fly? I wonder how they were going to get home? Was Mom or Dad going to pick them up from the airport?

TIA
 
  • #513
I think he started icing SM's family pretty early on. He didnt inform them about filing for guardianship and he lied about taking the lie detector test and cooperation to appease them. Fortunately Im sure he told the girls any number of lies to end the communication. No one want to think their dad would lie about something like this so I dont fault them for not reaching out on their own. I mean look how long it took CD kids to realize theyd been lied to. Dads are suppose to protect their kids, not use their influence to severe all contact with their spouses family. Its like hes trying to erase her family from his life so he can pretend he never existed
This sounds to me like he's taking a stance and having his girls side with him.
I would bet the girls were quite close to SM's side of the family, being raised in Indiana nearer them.
This must be so confusing for them. Breaks my heart for them.
Not sleuthing the girls at all tho.
jmo moo
 
  • #514
They may not have know he was out-of-town but I have a feeling he was keeping a VERY close eye on his phone that day. Whether or not he immediately answered those texts or calls is another matter!
You made me think. What if BM was 'working and didn't hear his phone?" Would the girls then call TN?
I don't think BM planned on having TN in the mix. He seems like a smart, decent guy. I think BM had chosen his good buddies to be there and back him up because he was successfully bs-ing them already. Moo of course.
 
  • #515
I think one of two things happened:

The Moorman’s were frustrated at the lack of visible progress, and decided to speak out on their own. They were silent in the beginning in an effort to preserve the integrity of the investigation.

The Moorman’s were given the go ahead to speak to the media, and voice their suspicions. This would be an effort on the part of law enforcement to turn up the heat, and rattle BM. That encourages mistakes.

As to any domestic violence, I think it’s possible that there either wasn’t any. It would not be the first time that a long term marriage with no history of violence has resulted in murder.

I also do not think the family was privy to all that was really going on (with SM and BM's relationship) until just recently.
 
  • #516
I think one of two things happened:

The Moorman’s were frustrated at the lack of visible progress, and decided to speak out on their own.

The Moorman’s were given the go ahead to speak to the media, and voice their suspicions. This would be an effort on the part of law enforcement to turn up the heat, and rattle BM. That encourages mistakes.

As to any domestic violence, I think it’s possible that there either wasn’t any. It would not be the first time that a long term marriage with no history of violence has resulted in murder.
To piggyback off this IMO the only that has mattered to SMs family is finding her. From the beginning they have said nothing but that. Their aware SM is likely gone and theyve been realistic about the situation. I think initially for family peace they tried to remain neutral and for the sake of the girls. Accusing BM would not have helped find BM. I think like you said they got frustrated and theyve denuded they've had enough. BM seems in no hurry to move the case along so this is a great way to get him to back up his claims hes been nothing but helpful to LE
 
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  • #517
AM did not address the property dealings at all in his conversation with Mike and Chris at Profiling Evil. I wonder if SM was even aware that their Indiana house was under contract for sale before she disappeared. Closing occurred 19 days after Mother's Day (according to Zillow).

Also on Zillow, I see that the same realtor served as agent to both purchaser and seller in that transaction. I assume that LE has probably spoken with that agent to ascertain whether he had ever spoken directly to SM in association with that sale.

Purchase and Sale Agreements can be signed using online document signing programs sent to an email address provided to the real estate agent (so it is possible that one spouse-owner's signature might be faked by the other), but actual closing occurs in person, usually at a title company office.

Interesting that SM's disappearance occurred between contract for sale and actual closing.
Hmmmmmmm. This is a very interesting line of thought. DocuSigning RE documents is commonplace now especially from long distance. It absolutely can be forged. I agree that it would be interesting to know if the agent ever actually spoke to Suzanne.
 
  • #518
Does anyone know what data can be found from electric usage. Can it be determined how much electricity as used after 5am on Mother's Day?
 
  • #519
This brings me to ask another question. I am not sleuthing the girls, they are victims.

Does anyone know, if public knowledge, how the girls were returning home from their trip? Did they drive the whole trip to and from? Or did they fly? I wonder how they were going to get home? Was Mom or Dad going to pick them up from the airport?

TIA
I don't think I've ever seen this info in MSM.
 
  • #520
So now we know why Barry thinks LE destroyed evidence. The two different points of view are very telling.

BM: “My buddy was there right after that, and he said that they completely destroyed the evidence, and he tried to stop them, but they wouldn't listen to him and said, "This is not CSI".'

AM: “I said to Barry ‘Hey, I don’t think she fell off the hill on that bicycle or rode over the edge.’ I said, ‘I believe a human being threw this down here.’ ”
 
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