Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #28

[MsBetsy]

That was my impression. It sounds like the family had their suspicions, but speaking with CBI was a game changer.

I think they felt like they had been hit with a ton of bricks.

Yes, especially for AM when he was apparently told that BM had not been cooperating. When he was repeating what investigators told him it got cut off for a few seconds, but I heard, "we've sent (then it cut out) and every one of them came back and pointed to Barry." I don't know if he was talking about different detectives questioning BM and coming back with the same findings or something else. Imo

 

[allyoucantleavebehind]

For some reason, I have become a little obsessed with this case. I think about Suzanne several times a day. (I’m sure all of us on the thread are.) Something’s been bugging me. I preface it by saying a great big “ALLEGEDLY”.
WHY would Barry (allegedly) risk taking Suzanne very far on the way to Denver? I mean, he’s in a fairly isolated location at their house. WHY would you risk the possibilities of a random blown tire, a random LE stop, having a truck wreck (you can’t control other drivers or animals), etc with a body in your vehicle? It seems smarter to do whatever he did there around their home or an isolated area not visible to any others. JMOO IMOO MOO!

because all those places would be searched immediately moo

 

[allyoucantleavebehind]

Re BBM
Yes I listened to PE last night and that is my understanding too. That they think it was the "front bucket scooper thing" that is attached to the front of it. Its shown (barely can see it) in the news video of it when we see it in their driveway. The front bucket portion is resting on the ground in that aerial video of their house so its hard to see it, but its there.

So lets suppose a person was using the bobcat for nefarious reasons and decided to put a body in the front bucket to use it to carry the person to another place. That person may have been worried about blood or DNA evidence that was on the scoop bucket and so they may have replaced the entire bucket scooper.

PE hinted that there may be records somewhere of someone either purchasing or renting a new or used front bucket attachment for it.
JMO

ETA-They have various attachments and the buckets, backhoe, and front end loader attachments can be seen in link below.

Find Bobcat Attachments and Implements - Bobcat Company

I think that’s what BM used to bury any objects with blood on them. I think the body is elsewhere though. Moo.

And I think forensic tests are in progress probably with trace amounts related to luminol so it could take a long time. Moo again.

 

[Brubon]

BBM:

Not to split hairs here, but it was actually "3-3o hours" that BM spent fully and cooperatively answering all of LE's questions.

Not 30 hours.

3-30 hours.

Let's make sure we give the man his full due, shall we?

JMO.

I am not a linguist. In my unprofessional opinion, BM speaks either CODSWALLOP or GOBBLEDYGOOK.
Either way, it is unintelligible nonsense.

Where is Suzanne, Barry?
MOO

 

[Cindizzi]

I'm trying to remember what kind of COVID ''laws'' were happening at the time. If I remember correctly Denver was still a stay at home issued around this time. Not sure about Colorado Springs - maybe a safer at home. I only bring this up because wasn't there some sort of regulations issued to hotels? Capacity maybe? If this hotel room was to be used by his crew and to store tools - you'd think a bunch of crew members going in and out of a hotel would have been frowned upon at this time.

Maybe someone with better knowledge of the hotel situation during covid could touch on this.

I’m in El Paso County and honestly can’t remember what took place when so looked it up. Stay at Home was statewide and was ordered March 26, but hotels were deemed exempt, being “essential “. Looks like a lot of them chose to close, probably due to capacity restrictions like you mention. I think even essential businesses could only have 50% of their staff there at one time.
Governor rules hotels essential businesses in Colorado but many have already shut down as coronavirus destroys demand

 

[marylamby]

mornin', websleuthers. you guys got it covered!

i'd like to know what ideas y'all have about barry lying down on the ground in the middle of the search. what in the bizarro world kind of action is THAT?

andy's interview was so classy, and not only did he come across as very intelligent and articulate, it's so clear by his words how much fear and pain he is holding in. i am going to bet suzanne was very similar to him, and i truly believe now that she got tired of BM's **** and was going to leave him and he snapped/premeditated her murder. (still on the fence with that. there are too many coincidences going on for me to get off yet).

THIS is the way a family member behaves when someone goes missing: anger, fear, confusion, sadness, disbelief.

i will also add, based on andy's recollection of his first conversation with BM after she went missing, there didn't seem to be any plan of action set up, any description of what suzanne was wearing or her state of mind, gatherings for help from locals (other than a few of barry's "buddies"), OR any real emotion attached to SM being missing. but there WAS the set-up for the ALIBI: it was all about where BM was at the time and why.

eta: can you imagine the chill andy got up his spine when he saw the bike, and realized it had been placed there by human hands and what that likely meant? i would love to hear at what precise moment it clicked that barry could be a suspect. terrifying. scary barry is one of the most ruthless killers i've learned about in a long time.

" i'd like to know what ideas y'all have about barry lying down on the ground in the middle of the search. what in the bizarro world kind of action is THAT?"

Excellent post.
I want to know where that bluff is! Unless, of course, it was another histrionic NPD display or a 'clever' diversionary tactic. Any which way, I'd like to know where it is. Wasn't it going up the other side of the mountain?
LE was very interested in the 'act' and where it happened.
Didn't AM say that it was HIS (AM's) friend that accompanied BM on that particular 'search'?
If I didn't mishear, BM knew it would get back to AM and possibly LE (which it did).

So may bombshells in this interview.

BM declined Voice Analysis, Lie Detector Tests and cooperation with LE. Bike thrown down from the road (we all knew that).
BM's timeline, alibi and circumstances changing. Too much to list. I'll have to watch it again.
Bizarro is right. And very, very telling.

 

[tmar]

The more info we find it, it assures me that we aren’t dealing with some criminal mastermind and it’s just a matter of time before BM gets perp walked. We’re just dealing with a murder that happened in a remote part of the country with little or no witnesses and a man who was skilled in navigating the outdoors.

But he’s not highly intelligent, has told multiple lies, and it’s time consuming to conduct this LE investigation in the middle of a pandemic. Nothing more.

EggSalad.
Your entire Post is a great summary of this case.
BM must be exhausted, thinking up further lies, to hide his actions.
Surely the Perp walk is around the corner.
MOO.

 

[Fireflize]

In the latest PE interview with AM, he was describing the 4 days that he helped search. Starting about 14:30 to 16:50. He tells about searching an area that had already been searched by LE. At one point, one of the team of 6 searchers "got away from us" and when they got back to the house that person was already there. He goes on to say that he had walked within 20 yards of the "second item" that was later found. He admits that it could have been overlooked, but I got the feeling that he had a suspicion that it had been planted by that person that "got away" from the group. Moo

 

[allyoucantleavebehind]

In the latest PE interview with AM, he was describing the 4 days that he helped search. Starting about 14:30 to 16:50. He tells about searching an area that had already been searched by LE. At one point, one of the team of 6 searchers "got away from us" and when they got back to the house that person was already there. He goes on to say that he had walked within 20 yards of the "second item" that was later found. Be admits that it could have been overlooked, but I got the feeling that he had a suspicion that it had been planted by that person that "got away" from the group. Moo

Hmmmm. Interesting. Where was “buddy?”

 

[marylamby]

Its always the cell phone that brings these "criminal masterminds" down. Im glad the FBI is helping with them, Im sure it expedites things for local LE and Im sure they can provide extremely accurate results. Interesting point about the security system, im not to hip on how they work but keeping my fingers crossed it provides something valuable

To disable a security camera(s), you can use an LED flashlight, take out the backup battery and transformer, or, if on wifi, use a wifi jammer. That was just a quick google but I'm sure there are other ways.
It's bothered me for months how the house's cameras weren't working, if that's the case.

 

[tmar]

The more we hear, the weirder it gets. How does he keep all his stories straight. From his own mouth we heard him say he was in Denver on Mother's Day, got home at 9 pm. Then we hear that he had told AM that he was in Colorado Springs, got home at 6 pm. It's so incredible that he will lie about details that are so contradictory, both can't be true. And so cool about it, butter wouldn't melt in his mouth. I can imagine that anyone with any sense would get tired of this man so quick. Poor Suzanne. Moo

As we continually are hearing more and more inconsistent points, could BM have missing marbles: dementia beginning, or some mental problem.
Otherwise, how could he run a business, with all this forgetfulness.

BUT, perhaps, this forgetfulness, has only occurred now, that SM is missing, and he is so upset, his mind is 'just not working'.
So, so sorry.
MOO.

 

[Cindizzi]

Quick question - was it ever stated when the CBI traveled to Indiana to question family and friends of SM & BM?

On August 6th Lauren called into a PE live and said she had just learned that LE had been in Indiana.

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[Tate123]

As we continually are hearing more and more inconsistent points, could BM have missing marbles: dementia beginning, or some mental problem.
Otherwise, how could he run a business, with all this forgetfulness.
BUT, perhaps, this forgetfulness, has only occurred now, that SM is missing, and he is so upset, his mind is 'just not working'.
So, so sorry.
MOO.

I believe his "memory" will soon be jogged nightly.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I've listened several times and I think that AM recalls BM saying setting up on Mother's Day would FREE HIM UP to work locally for the following four days.

Running that through my reverse salad spinner, I get an explanation for why BM is magically available M-Th for searching (party of 5 or 6) and not at an imaginary worksite, working on the imaginary wall, bound to an imaginary project that his imaginary workers showed up to rebuild, on both Sunday night and Monday morning. In both Denver and Colorado Springs.

My mom has always said, if you're going to tell a story, make it good.

Let me freshen that up.

If you're going to tell a story, how's abouts trying to make it CREDIBLE?

If facts were pepperoni, looks like someone's a cheese pizza.

JMOJMOJMO

Now I have to listen again, through my own reverse salad spinner.
He sure does like to play fast & loose with facts, doesn't he?

 

[Ontario Mom]

I just messaged Lauren to see if she was going to be doing another Facebook Live, or going on Profiling Evil in the near future. Her response was “tonight.” My guess is that means Profiling Evil. I’m sure we’ll see Tweets from either her or those guys at some point.

I'm sure all of them are looking forward to dissecting the numerous inconsistancies that seem to come out of BM's mouth.
Glad you messaged her.

 

[Hatfield]

EggSalad.
Your entire Post is a great summary of this case.
BM must be exhausted, thinking up further lies, to hide his actions.
Surely the Perp walk is around the corner.
MOO.

Its the old
"tell this person in Indiana excuse A, tell this other person in Colorado excuse B, and tell LE excuse C" because surely none of these people will ever know what each other was told. /s

I think someone forgot we are living in the age of the internet where information sharing is so much easier than years ago.

 

[marylamby]

ok, i decided to listen again, so i'm just gonna make a few notes.

1. if the drug-fueled angry ex-employee that was harrassing the morphew family was something barry immediately got worried about, why would he send his female older neighbor over to the house alone, not once, but twice, to check in the house and in the garage? why wouldn't he immediately announce that to the public to get that info out there? (instead we got "it's too soon.") why is it "too soon" to tell the public there is a dangerous person out there that had been threatening his family?!?

2: why were barry's buddies/family the only ones out searching? why did andy mention the guy who separated from them in the woods that first morning, and that when they got back to base, this buddy was already back there? why didn't they spot the "item" when they had searched that area already? (i know this is not uncommon. just making note).

3. where are suzanne's diamonds?

4. why was barry taking off on his own during the search? why did he lie down on the ground in that particular area?

5. why is barry lying about lie detectors and voice analysis tests? do his buddies know the truth? (surely they have been interviewed, right? would LE confirm to them that barry was not taking ld's the way they did with andy?) if so, why are these buddies so staunchly defending barry's lies?

6. where are the daughters, and why aren't they communicating with the moorman's? it sounds like they are a close family, and andy even compliments how wonderful barry's mom and sisters are. why did they have to go on youtube and make a public statement in that way to initiate contact with their granddaughters/nieces?

moo.

I don't have any answers (of course) but these are my thoughts on yours.

1. Absolutely. I wonder if that person actually exists.

2. I think I get where you're going with that. The 'buddy' that went 'missing' may have planted the 'personal item', or even BM himself, after they searched that area. I had a feeling that AM was confused to the point of questioning how they missed it, qualifying that it's rough terrain etc. I think he was being evasive due to protecting the case.

3. I caught it when AM mentioned how someone might've noticed SM's sparkly rings which could lead an abductor/thief to zero in, but that's before he found out about BM's lies.
This lead me to believe that he knows that SM's rings were not found at home.

4. He was with a friend, I don't know if it was AM's friend or BM's or both of theirs. (See my other comment where I quoted you)

5. I highly doubt his friends know the truth about the LD or VA, and much more. I also highly doubt that LE shared that with BM's 'buddies' unless necessary.

6. So freaking sad. I think BM has had words with someone on the Morphew side. That's the only thing I can think of, at this point. Maybe it's a "You're either with me or against me" from BM to his daughters.

Keep up the good work, Swedeheart!

 

[MassGuy]

I'm sure all of them are looking forward to dissecting the numerous inconsistancies that seem to come out of BM's mouth.
Glad you messaged her.

Yeah. I mean, that interview lasted 25 minutes, and the piece was only a few minutes long.

There are so many things she can shed light on, and I can’t wait for the answers.

 

[MsBetsy]

true. at what point was there a "worrying" silence from SM only hours from his departure from the house? if he had left her there, sleeping at 5am, at what point does he get worried enough to call a neighbor? wouldn't you, naturally, assume your wife was doing other things and getting on with her day? perhaps the immediacy of his suspicious nature is telling.

I didn't get the impression that he was immediately suspicious. He texted her at some point in the morning and got no response. Later he left the voicemail. I think he was just responding how a normal husband would. I'm pretty sure he only called the neighbor after his daughter texted him and said she couldn't reach her mom. I think he was trying to put as much time between when he left and when he had to raise the alarm. Imo

 

[Goldenseal]

I do believe, like most, that SM is sadly deceased. I also believe this was not a planned event.

The girls are older, so I’m sure they were used to having time alone in the house. But what happened that weekend (if BM is the bad guy) to cause such an explosive event? First thing comes to mind is an unforgivable lie uncovered. Girls are away and a confrontation happens. Perhaps things are said that normally would have been hushed bedroom fights. So I think the fact that the children were gone plays into this event going down the way it did. Or – this happened to be a time chosen that words were said that were shocking/life changing to the other party.

Where to search, where to search…. I don’t believe she’s on their property.

Consider the normal activity pattern of the bad guy, what does that radius location(s) look like? Also consider if this wasn’t a planned event and this is panic mode. Hopefully LE has good gps or cell data and can map search areas of interest (I think they probably do).

-remote locations that have service roads
-dirt roads
-less traveled open areas – zero in on tree clusters that stand out
-if you’re disposing of a body at night – you want the highest probability of privacy and can work quickly with just a flashlight.
-carrying a body, even for a fit person is not easy. “dead weight” is a thing.
-does the bad guy partake in any illegal poaching? I would be interested in areas such as this as a disposal site as well.

Searches are tough in general but if foul play is suspected, then it’s even more challenging. IMO

What would the bad guy do?

All my opinion.

Do we know whether that old 2003 car was available for BM to use that Saturday night? It only makes sense to leave your phone at home and take a non-GPS car for any nefarious activities.

The bad guy IS an awesome hunter and outdoorsman, according to SM's brother Andy. The Morphews have spent a number of vacations in Colorado and/or that Salida area, and they've lived there 2 years. It's not crazy to think that BM has scoped out much of the surrounding area, noting features of the landscape. If he went into a rage and did something unthinkable, he probably panicked and took her body away, away, from the house, and wandered for a bit, looking for a likely burial spot. SM is out there, and I regret to say she may only be found accidentally by hikers or hunters. MOO.