Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #29

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  • #581
Thank you so much, @Hoosierfan72 for attending the vigil for Suzanne in her hometown, and sharing it with us.

I wonder if the PE guys are acquainted with Tim Miller of TES? If not, someone needs to introduce them.

The links from the Chamber of Commerce to that particular article are a very interesting choice, aren't they?
 
  • #582
Gah. Denver. Help me out @MassGuy --was the job in Colorado Springs or Denver? Or both?

It sounds like LE focused on Denver and that's what BM said early on but then it changed per the wall that needed fixing. Did BM add Colorado Springs because he knew that LE would trace his movements there, and he wanted to account for them? Or is Colorado Springs just a blooper that has nothing to do with the case story or what happened that weekend?

I'm so confused about this part.
It's always been reported that BM was in Denver, but recently Suzanne's brother said he "thought" BM told him he was working in Colorado Springs.
 
  • #583
Is AM the only reference we have to Colorado Springs? I feel like AM speaks straight, doesn't obfuscate, and Colorado Springs seems to be the story he got from BM. I don't doubt that. I feel like that's what BM told him. And I think it has significance... but I'm not sure what.
As far as I know AM is the only source. It was in the Profiling Evil interview. He seemed a little unsure to me.
JMO
 
  • #584
Did Barry show up to the vigil?

No, BM did not attend. BM has a push-up contest scheduled for tomorrow @ the gym. BM wouldn’t dare miss a push-up contest! MOO.

I’m in a FB group with members who did attend the vigil in Anderson. They said he wasn’t there.
 
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  • #585
Is Indiana a state where motive is required for a first degree murder charge?

I do not think it's required in all states.
I didn't think it was necessary to show motive in any state.
 
  • #586
My intuition tells me it wasn’t that kind of abuse. Something more subtle. Control is often not seen or regarded as abuse by the victims of it. I think perhaps there were secrets BM was keeping, both financial and otherwise that hit critical mass. While I side on the premeditation scenario, I also admit I could be wrong. As @MassGuy pointed out earlier, a case can be made for both, and I agree, with the limited information we have at this point. MOO

It's said that the most dangerous time for a woman is when she decides to leave a relationship.

Perhaps, the dynamic of the M relationship was one where SM catered to BM. When she was going through chemo and weak, that wouldn't be possible. It was BM's turn to step up to the plate. Maybe, BM didn't do this and was in fact resentful of SM not being able to pamper his every need.

With the second round of cancer, perhaps, BM was even more resentful and neglectful. SM finally saw BM for what he was all along--a selfish, self-centered person. Something in her may have clicked and she decided she wanted to move back to Indiana to be close to her family and her friends.

BM probably thought that he could talk her out of leaving. He may have even seen the wedding trip back to IN as her way of leaving for good. He wasn't going to take that chance and made sure that it didn't happen.

If she was going to leave for good, it was going to be on his terms, not hers.

This is all speculation, of course.

I think maybe BM got physically rough with SUZANNE because of an argument or because she had confronted him about something (financial, affair, etc.). It all was the last straw for her, and then BM felt he had to stop her from leaving. Knew she wouldn’t let any of it go on any more. IMO. All supposition.

But I could be convinced it was premeditated by a few weeks given all the coincidences.

Starting the list -- Sept. 23-28,

Anybody signing up to take one for the team?

@GoJacks?

I’m in Wyoming, half a day away, and a mountain girl who can pay her own way, so I’m thinking I might be able to sign up to help search. Depends on the timing with a couple of prior commitments.

SUZANNE has been on my mind daily since I first read about her case. I’d love to help in some concrete way.

Thanks to everyone here for their interest in justice for SUZANNE.
 
  • #587
Thank you so much, @Hoosierfan72 for attending the vigil for Suzanne in her hometown, and sharing it with us.

I wonder if the PE guys are acquainted with Tim Miller of TES? If not, someone needs to introduce them.

The links from the Chamber of Commerce to that particular article are a very interesting choice, aren't they?

^^This times one hundred! Yes...
 
  • #588
I've envisioned it more of just a cut off. No further responses.

I'm thinking they meant that Barry wrote that message for Suzanne after she was incapacitated....
 
  • #589
I think it’s very likely that AM misspoke. I’m sure it has to be very stressful trying to remember every little detail from that time.

Now, I’m sure some will say that BM may have also misspoke at times because of stress or whatever.

I could look past one or two things out of context, but the list for BM is too long. For me, that’s a problem.

I think its VERY stressful to remember the lies that you made up....every little detail of every lie. MOO
 
  • #590
Is AM the only reference we have to Colorado Springs? I feel like AM speaks straight, doesn't obfuscate, and Colorado Springs seems to be the story he got from BM. I don't doubt that. I feel like that's what BM told him. And I think it has significance... but I'm not sure what.

I think AM's Co Spgs reference stands on its own because it comes complete with BM's deficient work claim that according to BM, caused him to terminate an employee on the spot (for doing shoddy work while being high on the job). And then the guy shows up in Salida and maybe he threatened BM too.

As for working in Denver, we heard that straight from BM's lips to TD's go-pro camera. Not one detail for setting up his landscape job. I dunno. BM was sure stingy with Denver details.

MOO
 
  • #591
Having gone back and re-read both the long and short form terms of service, I do not see where it is improper to mention religion as it relates to a case, particularly here where it is integral to understanding a POI's statement. The Morphew family attended a Christian church. Salvation (eternity with God in heaven) would be the wished for prize for one's soul (as opposed to eternity in hell). The concept of "zeal for souls"--wishing the prize of heaven for others--would be familiar to BM. MOO: BM was stating that through the horror of his wife's disappearance someone might be drawn closer to God by learning about Suzanne and seeing her goodness and faith. MOO

Or maybe he was trying to say that someone might be “saved” by being more cautious? So it’s okay that she disappeared? (Which would be very odd, IMO).

Yes and we know how that ended - my theory remains unchanged ... sadly
JMO

Yes. What concerns me though is that many no body cases don’t result in prosecutions. In fact, it’s super hard to get there without very compelling evidence.
 
  • #592
This is pointless unless the task force gives them locations in which to search. I hope they have areas of interest in which they can deploy these people. I don’t think she’s anywhere near that house.

So I’m happy this is happening, but skeptical it will result in anything fruitful.

Agreed, the odds are low that it will result in finding her remains. However, it will result in media exposure (which can only be helpful). It will exert significant discomfort on whoever disappeared her - if not because the search is too close for comfort, then because it shows him up for his lack of effort.
 
  • #593
While i am still leaning towards Barry being guilty, its still quite possible for a husband and wife to be having a terrible relationship full of arguments,fights, affairs etc and even hate each other yet at the same time a random stranger could one day decided to murder/kidnap either one of them. Like i say i don't believe that is the case here, for me there are a huge amount of red flags on barry,but just because a couple is not getting on and maybe don't even care about each other any more and are fighting or having affairs doesn't make them immune to being kidnapped or murdered by a stranger.
 
  • #594
I didn't get a chance to answer the "when did the media ever help a missing persons case?" question on the last thread but just wanted to say -
Tylee and JJ.
Nate at East Idaho news never let that go.
 
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This is at the bottom of the story:


Learn more
A trip to search for Suzanne Moorman Morphew in Colorado is being organized by Profiling Evil, a team of criminal behavior and intelligence experts who have consulted on high-profile homicide and kidnapping investigations.

Those interested in finding out more about the expedition, tentatively scheduled for Sept. 23-28, can visit the Profiling Evil YouTube channel at www.youtube.com/profilingevil
Whoa! Very cool!
 
  • #597
Agreed, the odds are low that it will result in finding her remains. However, it will result in media exposure (which can only be helpful). It will exert significant discomfort on whoever disappeared her - if not because the search is too close for comfort, then because it shows him up for his lack of effort.
This level of discomfort could rattle some cages. While it is taking place (with a team of special investigators) you never know who could be unnerved. And this could be many of the different goals.
 
  • #598
Anyone want to take a guess at why BM wasn't in attendance ?

um, Sat. nite is DATE night??
he's out stalking the mtn. lion???
he's home getting soused and figuring out his next lie???
 
  • #599
Anybody think LE is tracking BM as we speak?

Do they know his every move by, maybe tracking his vehicles?
We know this was done in the case in S. Ohio where the 8 family members were murdered.
Is this something LE typically does in other cases?
 
  • #600
So remind me what the Give me money account was set up for?

Wasn't it for finding SM???

Then doesn't it stand to reason AM will be given an allotment for Sept 23rd?

Makes sense to me.
Unless....people, who paid good money, were duped.
 
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