Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #29

[MassGuy]

That's disturbing where did you get that from? Link?

It’s from Lauren Sharf’s interview with Barry last week.

“People don’t know the truth”: Suzanne Morphew’s husband breaks silence after three months | FOX21 News Colorado

 

[Chocoholic]

That’s where I’m at. It’s incredibly selfish. The person worried about their own tail or trauma cares more about themself than their loved one, IMO.

I can’t understand that.

Either that or they don’t love that person more than they love their own self.

But the reality is most people aren’t like that. Again, IMO. So when they are, it’s a massive red flag. Because to me it indicates that the person doesn’t have normal human emotion for whatever reason. And whatever reason it is could possibly enable them to commit murder.

I was always taught God, family, job. Maybe I come in as number 4? I’m ok with that.

Suzanne IS his family and should come before himself! IMO

 

[Warwick7]

That's disturbing where did you get that from? Link?

Colorado husband of missing mom says police trying to 'blame it on me'

Husband Of Missing Colorado Mom Claims Authorities ‘Screwed Up’ Investigation And Are Trying To Blame Him

Husband of missing Colorado mom Suzanne Morphew gives first interview

Husband of missing Colorado mom Suzanne Morphew, 49, claims cops have 'destroyed evidence' | Daily Mail Online

Husband of Missing Mom Suzanne Morphew Said Police Botched Case, Are Trying to 'Blame It on Me'

There are more.

 

[marylamby]

You can inherit property independent of your spouse. MOO

Thanks!
With that, is it safe to assume that an inheritance or a property only in one spouse's name not be community property in the event of divorce?
In the unfortunate case of death, would the above transfer to the spouse in the event there's no will stipulating otherwise?
And thirdly, in this particular case where the other spouse has guardianship (and, alas, a probable full POA on 9/1, 3 days from now) would the rights of the 'incapacitated' be relinquished completely, regardless of a will?
So many questions!

 

[Dr.StClements]

Thank you for your valuable input Dr.StClements. It is truly sad the victim’s family will see this picture plastered all over the news.

Thank you too for bringing it to our attention. I thoroughly concur with you about the tragedy implicit in this picture. Just imagine the number of relatives/friends with missing loved ones - perhaps even from years ago - whose lives have just been upended again through seeing this photo and left wondering whether it could be the person they love.
Until the identity has been confirmed, these already traumatized people will be in limbo, both dreading the news that confirms their loved one is dead, while on the other hand being grateful for having some closure for what must be an endless torment.
I feel desperately sad for this victim's loved ones.

 

[Dr.StClements]

A snippet from the Nancy Grace podcast.
Lauren Scharf : “ He told me that there is not one ounce of evidence against him. “

Where Is Suzanne Morphew? We investigate on today’s #CrimeStories. Here’s what @LaurenScharfTV told us about her conversation with the missing mom’s husband Barry Morphew Watch the full program on @foxnation : try.nation.foxnews.com/crime-stories-…

https://twitter.com/nancygrace/status/1299105570042060801?s=21

Completely delusional comment on BM's part. Your misinformation tactics aren't working, Barry.

 

[Janeumayer]

Don’t want to derail the thread but kudos to Operation Not Forgotten. They rescued 39 missing children in Georgia in a two-week operation.

US Marshalls find 39 missing children in Georgia in two-week operation and arrest nine people | Daily Mail Online

 

[Warwick7]

A snippet from the Nancy Grace podcast.
Lauren Scharf : “ He told me that there is not one ounce of evidence against him. “

Where Is Suzanne Morphew? We investigate on today’s #CrimeStories. Here’s what @LaurenScharfTV told us about her conversation with the missing mom’s husband Barry Morphew Watch the full program on @foxnation : try.nation.foxnews.com/crime-stories-…

https://twitter.com/nancygrace/status/1299105570042060801?s=21

BM is not alledgedly dyslexic he's delusional....

I am shaking my head...

BM you are in for a rude awakening.

Circumstantial evidence is evidence that is presented at trial that suggests a fact is true.

Oh boy there are many types of circumstantial evidence, including physical, scientific, human behavior and indirect witness testimony.... We could go on and on...

 

[Dr.StClements]

He said what???
Cough cough! Did I hear BM correctly, not one ounce of evidence against him??!

Cough, cough over here too! These are the delusional preferences he is playing out in his head and saying out loud in quiet spaces, with limited numbers listening, IMO.
BM probably thought he'd got all angles covered when he gave his list of conditions to LS, which protected him from any release of information other than that which he'd directly sanctioned.
"Not one ounce of evidence" against him wasn't something he thought would slip through the net.

BM is playing a very dangerous game; one which I doubt he'll win. Finding Suzanne's body will help this case enormously. Personally, I don't think he'll admit to having murdered her even if she is found. Everything about his behavior so far suggests to me that he will continue denying any involvement ad infinitum. He thinks he is clever enough to get away with it. Reader: he is not.
Just my personal opinion.

 

[Warwick7]

Completely delusional comment on BM's part. Your misinformation tactics aren't working, Barry.

Exactly!!!

 

[Warwick7]

Cough, cough over here too! These are the delusional preferences he is playing out in his head and saying out loud in quiet spaces, with limited numbers listening, IMO.
BM probably thought he'd got all angles covered when he gave his list of conditions to LS, which protected him from any release of information other than that which he'd directly sanctioned.
"Not one ounce of evidence" against him wasn't something he thought would slip through the net.

BM is playing a very dangerous game; one which I doubt he'll win. Finding Suzanne's body will help this case enormously. Personally, I don't think he'll admit to having murdered her even if she is found. Everything about his behavior so far suggests to me that he will continue denying any involvement ad infinitum. He thinks he is clever enough to get away with it. Reader: he is not.
Just my personal opinion.

Excellent post!!!

 

[Rocky1]

Media is a broad term. TV, radio, social media have all spread the word about missing persons, and enlisted people to start searching.

Rainn Peterson is an example that comes to mind. Missing toddler found safe in an Ohio field, thanks to a volunteer searcher.

Not only missing persons, but in some cases they help to solve murders.

Al Wiman KABC Los Angeles and a few colleagues found the bloody clothing the Manson Family wore during the Tate murders. He had a driver start out from the crime scene timing how long it took for Al to change his clothes, then had the driver pull over. They got out and looked down the banking, and the clothes were there.

Michelle Caruso was a local reporter for Channel 7 Boston when Charles Stuart shot his wife in their car. Charles made a 911 call and faked passing out after telling police where he had just turned onto Tremont St. The trouble is Chuck drove for 6 minutes to where the police eventually found them.
Caruso drove the route and timed how many miles Chuck drove after playing like he was passed out and knew something as wrong with his story.

 

[Seattle1]

I was referring to Kelsie S., not Kelsey B. I don’t believe they have found Kelsie Schelling have they? She was last known to be driving to Pueblo.

@TxGidget, I'm sorry my post was not clear.

I was also referring to Kelsie Schilling, and if the Pueblo Police had announced they located a skull and bone fragments in a grave, I would say yes, this could be Kelsie!

Kelsie's been missing and believed dead since Feb 2013 -- more than 7 years. I thought it would be clear that this means she would be eliminated as a potential victim in today's discovery of a body but I was wrong making that assumption.

According to the earlier linked report, Pueblo Police reported they are seeking help after locating a body in a shallow grave. You can trust that Pueblo Police have a recent homicide investigation underway where they recovered the body of a victim from a shallow grave. IMO, the victim of this homicide has probably been dead between 24-72 hours.

 

[Dr.StClements]

I just want to focus on this paragraph for a second:

“This is the most devastating thing that has ever happened to me,” Barry explained. “But I have got to keep my faith and trust in God. And Suzanne trusted the Lord and if one person got saved from this, she would think it was worth it. And we are just a Godly, loving, caring, family and this thing is just a tragedy.”

First, this is the worst thing to happen to HIM. Not “us,” not “my family,” not “my daughters and I.”

When he says “...if one person got saved from this, she would think it was worth it,” I think he’s also talking about himself.

Basically, “I made a stupid mistake and my wife paid for it. Suzanne wouldn’t want me to go to prison for it though, because that would be a double tragedy.”

ETA Link

“People don’t know the truth”: Suzanne Morphew’s husband breaks silence after three months | FOX21 News Colorado

I agree with what you say here. There's a certain personality trait that begins with N and is one which we are not allowed to discuss on this site, apparently. The first statement of BM's that you quote aligns with this trait.
It is a most revealing (and disturbing) comment by him. He may be revealing something that the general reader doesn't pick up on - our default position is to look at the immediate context and interpret what is being said according to that. The way BM words this statement could be a broader statement; a kind of subconscious confession, IMO.

As for the "...if one person got saved from this, she would think it was worth it..." statement. This is such an egregious insult to Suzanne. It's offensive of him to even suggest it. He refers to the situation as just a tragedy. There's no "just" about it.
Who is being saved from what, Barry? What, precisely, do you mean by that? Of course, nobody was able to ask him that because he dictated to LS what could and could not be included in his interview. I'm not sure whether BM appreciates how much he reveals about himself in not only his words, but his deeds too. I'm guessing that he has little insight into the extent to which he incriminates himself every time he speaks.

 

[marylamby]

Bequeathed Real Est in IN?? Divorce?
@marylamby are you asking -- who gets it, a partial property interest in a real est parcel, either w or w'out home?
One point to bear in mind: A couple may enter a pre- nuptial (or post-) agreement, to set terms for property division on separation, divorce, or death, or all three, so the st. prop laws may not apply w those events.

This post relates to (hypothetical) DIVORCE.
"... nine community property states: Arizona, California, Idaho, Louisiana, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas, Washington, and Wisconsin...."
Equitable Distribution (Divorce)
"In the remaining states, [al66pine ed: like IN, where they lived for 20+ yrs?] assets and earnings accumulated during marriage are divided equitably (fairly), but not necessarily equally...." bbm rbm
From https://www.divorcenet.com/states/nationwide/property_division_by_state <--- part of nolo.com

IN. law.
"Marital property is property a couple acquires during marriage, while separate property is property one spouse owns before marriage, or acquires by gift or inheritance while married. Although Indiana law makes a distinction between marital and separate property, a judge may divide all of a couple’s property in any manner that seems fair, regardless of which spouse actually owns it or when it was acquired...
" .... a court will presume that an equal division of property is fair unless one spouse presents evidence of unfairness, and a claim that certain property is separate may support an argument of unfairness.
"Marital and separate property can become mixed together—sometimes called “commingling.” bbm See more at link, esp'ly list of factors judge is to consider. Can be very difficult to trace when a couple transfers prop back and forth, into jt a/c, then some to wife's a/c, then shw writes check to make major purchase (ex: car?), when it is sold, proceeds are deposited to his bank a/c. Multiply that over the years, and who knows, unless at the time of each buy, sell, deposit and withdrawal, they keep accurate notations and records.

Personally won't try to predict what would if BM or SM had filed for divorce, could not agree on prop division themselves, and how a judge might order division.
As always, welcoming comment, clarification, correction from members of our legal profession. jm2cts.

Oh boy are you good! Glad I don't live in IN. I'd research a judges ex-wife and change my hair color if I had to, haha.
I'm absolutely floored. No offense to IN residents (or others states mentioned)!
I'm guessing it's a great have connections in high places.
Thanks so much, yet again, @al66pine !

 

[Ninja Bunny]

If LE asks you to take a polygraph, they’re looking at you as a suspect.

Get a lawyer.

It happens, more often than people think, that LE gets tunnel vision and locks on a specific narrative whether it’s correct or not and innocent people end up in prison.

Going in to the police station having done nothing wrong and wanting to take a polygraph with the best intentions can quickly turn into a situation that spirals out of control in ways you can’t imagine and land you in prison for a very long time and cost you hundreds of thousands to (eventually) get you out.

If things like that didn’t happen, organizations like the Innocence Project wouldn’t exist.

If you’re determined to take a polygraph do it through your lawyer with a private company.

 

[marylamby]

RSBM

I would agree that he knows how to use certain machinery, but I'm not entirely convinced he's the superstar outdoorsman, especially with how he continues to go on about the mountain lion idea when he should know darn good and well it's a load of hooey.

I suppose that could be a case of - either he's really ignorant in that area, or he's just hoping everyone else is and his story comes across as believable.

jmo

I believe he knows that the 'MOUNTAIN LION!' theory is a load of crap. It was/and still is just another of his throwing pasta at the fridge to see what sticks.
Someone else mentioned that he's likely throwing out so many alibis and scenarios to obfuscate, confuse and trying to make people scurry. I totally agree.
He's not bright, in my observation *cough*, but he ain't stupid either. There's a difference between intelligence and the ability to be deceitful and conniving - to win at all costs.
Only problem is, he THINKS he's smarter than everyone else in the room.
You don't know what you don't have.

 

[steeltowngirl]

He said what???
Cough cough! Did I hear BM correctly, not one ounce of evidence against him??!

It’s truly disturbing, isn’t it? He should be concerned there are no clues to her disappearance. He’s skipped right past that - into no evidence against him. He’s really proud of himself. He thinks he knows a lot.

OK, Braggadocious Barry. We will see about that.

 

[Dr.StClements]

That’s where I’m at. It’s incredibly selfish. The person worried about their own tail or trauma cares more about themself than their loved one, IMO.

I can’t understand that.

Either that or they don’t love that person more than they love their own self.

But the reality is most people aren’t like that. Again, IMO. So when they are, it’s a massive red flag. Because to me it indicates that the person doesn’t have normal human emotion for whatever reason. And whatever reason it is could possibly enable them to commit murder.

The personal/behavioral characteristics that BM has shown so far align with a particular diagnostic category outlined in the DSM of Mental Disorders, in my opinion. It goes some way in explaining why he is saying the things he is and behaving in certain ways. The diagnosis doesn't excuse what he's doing. It does, however, provide insight into the fact that some people commit murder or other serious crimes (e.g. harassment, stalking) sometimes remorselessly, and justify their crimes to themselves and others, taking a self-centered perspective when they do so. This is not "normal" behavior as we understand it and these traits don't develop overnight. There will have been other instances of this self-centered behavior, perhaps only noticed/experienced by those closest to the affected person. MOO

 

[MassGuy]

I believe he knows that the 'MOUNTAIN LION!' theory is a load of crap. It was/and still is just another of his throwing pasta at the fridge to see what sticks.
Someone else mentioned that he's likely throwing out so many alibis and scenarios to obfuscate, confuse and trying to make people scurry. I totally agree.
He's not bright, in my observation *cough*, but he ain't stupid either. There's a difference between intelligence and the ability to be deceitful and conniving - to win at all costs.
Only problem is, he THINKS he's smarter than everyone else in the room.
You don't know what you don't have.

This got me thinking. I think most people hold out some hope in a situation like this, and don’t want to face reality.

Instead, we have Barry saying that he believes his wife was attacked by a mountain lion, and is obviously now dead. What’s really insane, is that he’s been saying that since day one.

Mountain lion attacks are rare. Fatal mountain lion attacks are much rarer. Here, Barry would have us believe that a mountain lion attacked Suzanne, left no trace of an attack, dragged her body away, and all those law enforcement and family searches missed her.

Oh, and this mountain lion threw her bike off a ledge.

He’s an experienced outdoorsman, and knows that this scenario is not only implausible, it’s impossible.

But it creates doubt, and turns the focus away from him. It also gives him an out from all the criticism he is facing.

“I’m looking for where the mountain lion took her,” or something. “I’m doing all I can.”

BS