Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #31

[NuttMegg]

I used to travel at a low level and always had to share a room. I would never make my bed if I had slept in it. And also if I was leaving urgently, I was always under the impression you were supposed to leave dirty towels on the floor for the maid. That's not my biggest concern here to be honest. The chlorine smell and the other stuff in the trash can and the mail, that's of interest to me. And of course, the major elephant in the room is the timeline. And why he was there and showered and napped.

I wonder how many towels he used up. It's not so much the mess, but I'd be POd if there were no clean towels for me.

 

[ajaylee]

And if there is no trace evidence of a crime? No blood, no DNA, no Suzanne? Could they make a case?

That's a question that is discussed a great deal in the Kelsey Berreth thread. Patrick Frazee notoriously bragged 'no body, no crime'. There are lengthy discussions on the difficulties (and successes!) in bringing killers to justice without a body.

 

[NoSI]

https://twitter.com/LaurenScharfTV/status/1301659713550118918?s=20

click on the video in the tweet.

I don't know why i am triggered by Barry starting the his sentence with "Listen" ... Oh yes, I do... Shades of LS...

 

[lonetraveler]

Hotel Check-In & Keys:

I travel for work very often. I use the hotel chain app to check in and then my phone can be used to open the door. There is no key, just a wireless signal that my phone, with my hotel app login, sends to the door lock and opens it. My phone has to be near the door and logged in to specifically open the door.
I do not know if this HI has this feature, but many hotels frequented by business travelers have them.

In my career I practically lived in Holiday Inn Express and other hotels. Even if you open the door by using your phone app, the investigators would be able to see this on the phone itself.

 

[ajaylee]

What machinery fix? Where? When?

I'm still lost on the facts on this one.

At some point, BM was grumbling about LE picking on him. He claimed he has been 100% forthcoming but made one teeny little mistake about fixing the bobcat - he 'accidentally' got the time of the repair wrong.

No idea what the fix was or where or when it took place.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I used to travel at a low level and always had to share a room. I would never make my bed if I had slept in it. And also if I was leaving urgently, I was always under the impression you were supposed to leave dirty towels on the floor for the maid. That's not my biggest concern here to be honest. The chlorine smell and the other stuff in the trash can and the mail, that's of interest to me. And of course, the major elephant in the room is the timeline. And why he was there and showered and napped.

From what I'm reading, BM secured the room for JP.
It was not a room they were supposed to be sharing, and I don't think JP was under that impression either.
Until he got there, and saw the condition of the room.
That's what makes this even more bizarre.

 

[Gigi3]

If you were BM, would you risk sharing a room with a stranger during a pandemic and possibly bringing covid home to your medically fragile wife?


I guess that all depends on if you knew she wouldn’t be there?

 

[lamlawindy]

And if there is no trace evidence of a crime? No blood, no DNA, no Suzanne? Could they make a case?

If the government cannot connect a person to a crime, it cannot make a case against him/her. If the investigators in this case do not have blood, DNA, or any such evidence linking a person to Suzanne, then they will have to rely on eyewitness testimony. The problem, though, is that if such an eyewitness existed, we'd probably know by now (and an arrest would've been made).

 

[ZoriahNZ]

I used to travel at a low level and always had to share a room. I would never make my bed if I had slept in it. And also if I was leaving urgently, I was always under the impression you were supposed to leave dirty towels on the floor for the maid. That's not my biggest concern here to be honest. The chlorine smell and the other stuff in the trash can and the mail, that's of interest to me. And of course, the major elephant in the room is the timeline. And why he was there and showered and napped.

But would you usually share a room with your boss? I think there's a distinction here. Especially when you were under the impression that it was a room for you, in your name, then find it was in a used state? Clearly JP was not expecting that.

Agreed on the other details, though.

 

[Ontario Mom]

What machinery fix? Where? When?

I'm still lost on the facts on this one.

The media thread for this case is a fantastic source to bring anyone right up to speed.

 

[MassGuy]

From what I'm reading, BM secured the room for JP.
It was not a room they were supposed to be sharing, and I don't think JP was under that impression either.
Until he got there, and saw the condition of the room.
That's what makes this even more bizarre.

Which reminds me, I’m sure the hotel employee at the front desk will make an interesting witness. We saw similar things in the Berreth case, when employees at a bank and phone store were totally creeped out.

 

[Seattle1]

Lauren Scharf[URL='https://twitter.com/LaurenScharfTV']@LaurenScharfTV[/URL]

WATCH TONIGHT AT 9 ONLY ON
@FOX21News
To watch live: https://fox21news.com/live/

I'll post the article as soon as possible after the story airs. #FindSuzanne #SuzanneMorphew #JusticeForSuzanne

4:13 PM · Sep 3, 2020

BM soundbite at tweet link!

 

[Gigi3]

If the government cannot connect a person to a crime, it cannot make a case against him/her. If the investigators in this case do not have blood, DNA, or any such evidence linking a person to Suzanne, then they will have to rely on eyewitness testimony. The problem, though, is that if such an eyewitness existed, we'd probably know by now (and an arrest would've been made).

I’m not sure about that... over the last few days we are learning a lot more. I thought this stuff would’ve leaked out weeks ago, but apparently not.

 

[Dr.StClements]

Oh man, this is going to be gold. Barry throwing JP under the bus. Sounds like that DM article got him all fired up yesterday. “Listen, listen, JP was in prison for 9 years...”

WATCH TONIGHT AT 9 ONLY ON @FOX21News
To watch live: fox21news.com/live/
I'll post the article as soon as possible after the story airs. #FindSuzanne #SuzanneMorphew #JusticeForSuzanne

https://twitter.com/laurenscharftv/status/1301659713550118918?s=21

"..listen, listen..."
Barry, we hear you alright. But not in the way you are demanding we do.
Quit the deflecting. It's not working.

 

[NuttMegg]

It just sounded to me like JP arrived alone, there was nothing like "When we got there.....". Even though he said he entered the room alone, you'd think he would have referred to all of them getting to the hotel. Like, my hotel room was a wreck and smelled of chlorine, but the other room(s) were pristine.

 

[TKG]

If you were BM, would you risk sharing a room with a stranger during a pandemic and possibly bringing covid home to your medically fragile wife?


I guess that all depends on if you knew she wouldn’t be there?

Excellent questions!

 

[Topppps]

Sure, it wouldn’t be the first time. It makes it harder, but this isn’t decades ago when there was no surveillance footage, cell phone records, computer records, or GPS data.

No they probably wouldnt make that case. Every case Ive seen without a body had either 1. Eye Witness 2. Confession 3. Large amount of blood that proved death 4. Bones that proved death.

We'll see how the Donthe Lucas case goes I guess as it doesn't appear LE has of these 4 items in that case. Seems like there's decent circumstantial evidence in the Britney Drexel case but no arrest has been made.

 

[lamlawindy]

I’m not sure about that... over the last few days we are learning a lot more. I thought this stuff would’ve leaked out weeks ago, but apparently not.

By "eyewitness" I literally mean a witness who saw the actual crime take place. It would be extremely rare for an eyewitness to exist and yet police take no action.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Which reminds me, I’m sure the hotel employee at the front desk will make an interesting witness. We saw similar things in the Berreth case, when employees at a bank and phone store were totally creeped out.

I didn't follow her case but I agree the front desk clerk will have some curious info to share.
Hopefully, that might include day/time the room was booked, by whom, for whom, and for how many days. And/or if any other rooms were booked by the same person for the same time frame.
In addition to anyone he/she spoke to regarding the status of that room, and how many key cards (if applicable) were issued.

 

[ZoriahNZ]

Just a reminder that surveillance footage, gps data, phone records etc. is still counted as evidence. As is witness testimony of odd behaviors, financial irregularities, establishing motive and so on. Direct evidence of a crime is not necessary to lead to a conviction any more. It just makes the case more challenging to prove, and the weight of circumstantial evidence gathered probably has to be heavier to tip the scales of justice.