Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #33

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  • #401
Based on his alleged background, I seriously doubt he would make the stand. BM proffered that the man had been in prison for 9 years. Hoping I can post this as it has come out through Lauren Scharf?
MOO.
Yeah that would be a tough call for the prosecutor.
 
  • #402
After the latest interview with AM I got the impression that BM does not approve of drugs and alcohol. Andy said he was "anti-drug city." Imo

That is quite curious.
 
  • #403
Well I’ve been thinking a lot about the potential isolation after the move and the possible lack of communication with her family back in IN - here are some ways to control this:
No landline
Cell phone communication monitoring including blocking numbers
Control of WiFi password
Control of security system
Control of car keys
Control of bank accounts and access to cash
Control of credit cards
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So if you find yourself with limited cell phone access, no credit card, no car keys, no access to bank accounts, monitoring of your activities inside the house via security camera video - you can’t communicate with your family - and yes, you can’t buy stamps to send a letter - and on and on ...
100% control
IMO
I know that level of control does happen, but I don't think this was the case for SM at all.
I think it was far more subtle in her case, but was definitely there.

jmo
 
  • #404
Nine years will be a serious felony. It will matter what caregory of felony.
sorry i may have mispoke, it doesnt mean they served nine years merely that 10 years have past since the person was convicted. sorry for the confusion
 
  • #405
Well I’ve been thinking a lot about the potential isolation after the move and the possible lack of communication with her family back in IN - here are some ways to control this:
No landline
Cell phone communication monitoring including blocking numbers
Control of WiFi password
Control of security system
Control of car keys
Control of bank accounts and access to cash
Control of credit cards
—-
So if you find yourself with limited cell phone access, no credit card, no car keys, no access to bank accounts, monitoring of your activities inside the house via security camera video - you can’t communicate with your family - and yes, you can’t buy stamps to send a letter - and on and on ...
100% control
IMO

Well if all that, or most of that is true, wow, ugly.

It has always bothered me that the Fire Captian felt free to analyse Suzanne's "problem."

He stated to the press, that Suzanne's being friendly was her "downfall."

Why would he feel he was entitled do that?

MOO BM was probably talking about SMs "problems" at the firehouse.
 
  • #406
That is quite curious.
alcohol and drugs make it harder to keep the lies straight, not that hes doing a great job of that sober but no need to make the hard task of coming up with a believable alibi harder for him
 
  • #407
That is quite curious.
Hmmm, could be family distance as we’ve heard so much about, the family sometimes in denial or it’s well masked
New life, new state, new friends
Wonder if he considers steroids or prescription from the doc a drug?

eta quote gremlins
 
  • #408
I don’t see him hacking Suzanne up, or burning her. I see him burying her, in the ground, under rock, in water, inside or outside of a cooler. No idea why I feel that way. I’m not spending a lot of time on the bleach, or no materials for the wall.

I want his timeline, and anyone credible who can throw him right under that very big bus.

I do agree. Unless his faith is truly lip-service — something he did just to “get the girl” (and I can’t see him keeping up a charade like that for decades) — I don’t envision him desecrating her body by fire or mutilation. One needs to despise the victim to do something like that, IMO. Their relationship may have been troubled or dysfunctional but I don’t get the feeling there was loathing in either direction unless is was relatively recent.

Assuming BM is the culprit, I’ve always felt she was placed in her grave with her body shrouded in a sheet or blanket, not plastic or a landscaping tarp — perhaps almost lovingly; a private thing in a private place between a controlling husband and an “errant” wife. I do think he feels a certain selfish remorse over whatever happened. Maybe we’ll see some evidence of that some day. Maybe not.

I can also see him sinking her in a deep hole in the river — sort of a burial at sea — and dropping a few scoops of rock and gravel on top. She could be close but with nothing for the dogs to hit on. He had the means, in any case.

Just my gut reaction. All MOO. (Probably says more about me than about what actually happened.)

ETA: This presumes the murder was not premeditated but committed in a fit of rage. If it turns out to be planned in advance my feelings are very, very different.
 
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  • #409
That is quite curious.
Not unlike rocker Ted Nugent, a Michigan guy. He is also a hunter (bow) and he is rabidly anti drugs and alcohol believing they equal death.
 
  • #410
Don't think they took possible coolers, believe they were going to a hosted camp.
Is a hosted camp an organized group event? Like at a National Park with various people?
Socially distanced campsites perhaps due to Covid?
 
  • #411
I know that level of control does happen, but I don't think this was the case for SM at all.
I think it was far more subtle in her case, but was definitely there.

jmo
I only listed all the ways one could control and isolate a SO - something isn’t right with that move and subsequent contact with her family IMO and I think as you do there is a level of control at play - how much? Only she knew or her friend possibly?
JMO

ETA grammar
 
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  • #412
Not that it changes the big picture, but I’d still like to know what the deal is with the Morphews and Moormans. Something happened between the families back in Indiana and we’re not being told the whole story.
IMO
 
  • #413
alcohol and drugs make it harder to keep the lies straight, not that hes doing a great job of that sober but no need to make the hard task of coming up with a believable alibi harder for him
bbm
Your entire post esp. the bolded cracked me up ! :D
 
  • #414
That is quite curious.

I know guys who are anti-drug. However they use testosterone. They consider it health supliments, like strong vitamins.
Moo
 
  • #415
Not that it changes the big picture, but I’d still like to know what the deal is with the Morphews and Moormans. Something happened between the families back in Indiana and we’re not being told the whole story.
IMO
And we likely never will know.
I don't even think it has anything to do with this case.
 
  • #416
:eek:

Welcome to WS posting section, MidnightBlue !
Trying not to read too much into anything.
I think we all want answers.
Thanks... So sorry my first post didn't meet requirements. I was afraid of that. I'll be more careful next time. Happy to be here among you. Praying for Suzanne and her family.
 
  • #417
Andy: "LE said there was no sign of a struggle"

Thoughts @MassGuy? doesn't look like they have the goods to pursue a murder charge without a body.
 
  • #418
Thanks... So sorry my first post didn't meet requirements. I was afraid of that. I'll be more careful next time. Happy to be here among you. Praying for Suzanne and her family.
Welcome to WS!
 
  • #419
I only listed all the ways one could control and isolate a SO - something isn’t right with that move and subsequent contact with her family IMO and I think as you do there is a level of control at play - how much? Only she knew or her friend possibly?
JMO

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I think many are coming to realize the life Suzanne was living in Colorado. I'm getting a sense the control was ramping up, was it because he had her more isolated than when in Indiana? I think there is more to it, just can't pinpoint the underlying causes. Bet we'll learn more as people keep speaking out.
 
  • #420
Well if all that, or most of that is true, wow, ugly.

It has always bothered me that the Fire Captian felt free to analyse Suzanne's "problem."

He stated to the press, that Suzanne's being friendly was her "downfall."

Why would he feel he was entitled do that?

MOO BM was probably talking about SMs "problems" at the firehouse.

This thought really resonates with me. IMO the more often a person hears something (especially from someone they like or respect) the more likely they are to 'parrot' it back to someone else. The captain had likely heard many times that Suzanne was 'too friendly'. IMO another possible sign of BM's control issues.

Sidenote but why is it that controlling people fall for friendly people... loving how happy and open they are... only to end up quashing the very trait that attracted them? A true sign of insecurity. Just thinking out loud.
 
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