Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #34

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All we really have to go by is what MG said, in LS's article, and what she didn't say.

She didn't say she felt threatened or coerced.
She didn't say she was afraid of these two men (although she DID say she was afraid of BM)
She didn't say she was never paid.

There's still SO much we don't know.

Yep! The ants are still running out of, and around, the anthill!

JMVHO.
 
  • #1,262
In a way I feel like maybe she was making it known that BM tried to bribe her not to cooperate. She was putting that out there.
totally agree. It's the innuendo, subtle but not said.
Sometimes you have to connect the dots, read between the lines and use smart deductive reasoning to understand what is being communicated even if it's not clearly stated in so many words.
 
  • #1,263
I get what you're saying about MG seeming world wise. But I think the way BM turned on her and fired her really hurt her feelings. I think she thought that she meant more to him than she actually did. Moo

BM behavior hurts anyone and everyone.

Do you like your Indiana High School of your parents and friends - forget it.

Angry ex-employee possibly stalking family? Don't look at BM, he only does the "mountain man" thing when it advantageous to him.

BM's "active grieving" demonstrated by getting hands on wife's assets, begging public for money to do nothing accountable, to keep quiet and not work hard to get Suzanne case out there for public help, and of course winning push up contests.
 
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We know from MG that they (MG & JP) packed up on Tuesday and headed back to Salida. If they approached her late Tues or Weds, the heat definitely was on BM by this time -- LE confident no bike ride, no mountain lion. MOO

The speed with which this moved implies LE had very strong suspicions. Compare it with LE's response to another missing person, Kelsey Berreth. It's almost as though the Sheriff knew or very very strongly suspected that SM was dead and not just missing. LE doesn't just go on 'hunches', especially in the early hours of the investigation.

I wonder if staging the bike will ironically end up being his downfall. Perhaps he would have gotten away with it if he hadn't tried so hard to stage the scene.
 
  • #1,265
Hmmmmm. If it happened like she said I don’t know how else I would take it but as a threat. She was already scared of BM and two men connected to him come and say what they said? I’d be real scared, but maybe that just me.
Absolutely.
When I first heard her comments I picture strong arming and mob threats.
"Shut yo mouth, if you know what's good for ya,"
 
  • #1,266
I am confused about something help please.
The neighbor who heard the equipment running Mothers day weekend. Was that a neighbor of BM where he lived? Or was it a neighbor that lived by the jobsite? I ask because when I have seen the photos of Suzanne's home the police tape is stretched using the Bobcat.
So my confusion comes in how could the bobcat be on the jobsite and also be at BM home along with the trailer?
I realize it may not be the same piece of equipment and I have not heard of any other contractors that we also on that job who may have brought equipment with them, and let's say there were other contractors if we think it was BM using that equipment how would BM have access to the keys? I had thought the neighbor was at the jobsite, but I have heard no reference to BM returning with the trailer and bobcat when he returned home:
I have tried diligently to keep up with this thread but feel as I must have missed something somewhere.
 
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I am confused about something help please.
The neighbor who heard the equipment running Mothers day weekend. Was that a neighbor of BM where he lived? Or was it a neighbor that lived by the jobsite? I ask because when I have seen the photos of Suzanne's home the police tape is stretched using the Bobcat.
So my confusion comes in how could the bobcat be on the jobsite and also be at BM home along with the trailer?
I realize it may not be the same piece of equipment and I have not heard of any other contractors that we also on that job who may have brought equipment with them, and let's say there were other contractors if we think it was BM using that equipment how would BM have access to the keys? I had thought the neighbor was at the jobsite, but I have heard no reference to BM returning with the trailer and bobcat when he returned home:
I have tried diligently to keep up with this thread but feel as I must have missed something somewhere.
It was a neighbor at the Salida job site. I don't think we've heard an explanation of how or if the bobcat is the same one in BM's driveway.
But the fact that it had crime tape tied to it makes me think it was being looked at as being suspicious.
 
  • #1,268
The neighbor who heard the noise was next to the Salida jobsite - the one on the river.

I haven't seen anything else on the bobcat's specific whereabouts.
 
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Thread closed.

Check back later.
 
  • #1,270
Thread is open again. It’s up to members how long it will stay open.

No more:

trashing people and casting aspersions at individuals who are not named as POIs

stating things as fact without links to support

discussing or even mentioning social media rumors

alluding to an affair by BM or any other indiviudual. This has been said before: There is NOTHING in MSM to substantiate that BM was having an affair with anyone, let alone MG

insinuating that TN is one of the 2 individuals who approached MG when there is no information as to who it was.
 
  • #1,271
I think it’s important to keep an open mind, and I’ve been thinking of alternate scenarios, ones in which BM isn’t involved. Here’s the one that I think is most probable:

I think the killer had familiarized himself with Suzanne’s routine, and had stalked her biking route on multiple occasions. On the day in question, he lurked just off the trail, crouching in the bushes, waiting for his opportunity to strike. As she rode by, he sprang out of nowhere, startling her. He knocked Suzanne off her bike, disorienting her. He quickly picked up the bike and flung it down the ravine as far as he could, so as to delay discovery of her disappearance. He then dragged Suzanne away, carefully removing any traces of his tracks left behind.

BTW, the perpetrator is a mountain lion in this scenario. Give me a break Barry.
 
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DBM
 
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Thread is fast.
Here is my understanding of a timeline now.

Is this right?
Sat:
1100 leave worksite Salida
1130 possible BM arrival Puma Path
1230 phone message conversation ceases
(SM last phone ping?)
1300 Possible BM depart PP
1320 back in Salida and a cascade of Saturday events.
Being seen shopping, hotel room plan, Denver work orders to MG and JP, tool selection.

2300 machinery noise at work site.

Sunday:
Mid afternoon arrival at hotel room.

Maybe that night noise was BM getting ready for Denver at 1130 at night because he had been just too busy during the day, and needed to get going in the early am.

Who is acting like a meth head? Not his employees.
It's BM that rages, has unexplained manic energy and executes weird plans at odd times.

Certainly LE knows BM's phone's whereabouts on Saturday.

I'm not ready to place him in Salida Saturday afternoon. MG mentioned she "heard that" which is the literal definition of hearsay. IMO, thats extremely unreliable.

If BM is guilty, I think it is very unlikely he was in Salida early Saturday afternoon. I say this because if he put someone up to this, he would make sure he had a solid alibi (such as being seen in town) and wouldn't have staged the bike and attempted to mess with the timeline. I also have a very hard time believing he would venture into town immediately after harming SM. It just seems he would be more concerned, initially, with destroying evidence, hiding the body, cleaning up and calming down. I think all that takes time. If he was in town, it would be more likely to have been early evening. IMO (4-7 pm)? And if so, what was he shopping for? Bleach? Cooler (might explain LEs interest, IMO)?

Of course this is all speculation and MOO. My main point is I think MGs report that she heard he was in town Saturday afternoon should be taken lightly at this point. JMO.
 
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I think it’s important to keep an open mind, and I’ve been thinking of alternate scenarios, ones in which BM isn’t involved. Here’s the one that I think is most probable:

I think the killer had familiarized himself with Suzanne’s routine, and had stalked her biking route on multiple occasions. On the day in question, he lurked just off the trail, crouching in the bushes, waiting for his opportunity to strike. As she rode by, he sprang out of nowhere, startling her. He knocked Suzanne off her bike, disorienting her. He quickly picked up the bike and flung it down the ravine as far as he could, so as to delay discovery of her disappearance. He then dragged Suzanne away, carefully removing any traces of his tracks left behind.

BTW, the perpetrator is a mountain lion in this scenario. Give me a break Barry.
Is the mountain lion a meth head? If so then I am in on this theory.
 
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I think it’s important to keep an open mind, and I’ve been thinking of alternate scenarios, ones in which BM isn’t involved. Here’s the one that I think is most probable:

I think the killer had familiarized himself with Suzanne’s routine, and had stalked her biking route on multiple occasions. On the day in question, he lurked just off the trail, crouching in the bushes, waiting for his opportunity to strike. As she rode by, he sprang out of nowhere, startling her. He knocked Suzanne off her bike, disorienting her. He quickly picked up the bike and flung it down the ravine as far as he could, so as to delay discovery of her disappearance. He then dragged Suzanne away, carefully removing any traces of his tracks left behind.

BTW, the perpetrator is a mountain lion in this scenario. Give me a break Barry.

Bravo!
A fine thread beginning
 
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Is the mountain lion a meth head? If so then I am in on this theory.
I doubt it. His teeth are big and white. He has a gorgeous smile.
 
  • #1,277
Phone evidence is going to crucial, unless a body and murder weapon are found soon.
 
  • #1,278
Certainly LE knows BM's phone's whereabouts on Saturday.

I'm not ready to place him in Salida Saturday afternoon. MG mentioned she "heard that" which is the literal definition of hearsay. IMO, thats extremely unreliable.

If BM is guilty, I think it is very unlikely he was in Salida early Saturday afternoon. I say this because if he put someone up to this, he would make sure he had a solid alibi (such as being seen in town) and wouldn't have staged the bike and attempted to mess with the timeline. I also have a very hard time believing he would venture into town immediately after harming SM. It just seems he would be more concerned, initially, with destroying evidence, hiding the body, cleaning up and calming down. I think all that takes time. If he was in town, it would be more likely to have been early evening. IMO (4-7 pm)? And if so, what was he shopping for? Bleach? Cooler (might explain LEs interest, IMO)?

Of course this is all speculation and MOO. My main point is I think MGs report that she heard he was in town Saturday afternoon should be taken lightly at this point. JMO.

Point taken. But did not JP also say he saw BM in Salida Saturday afteroon?
 
  • #1,279
Remember the items that were recovered from the side of the main road in the day or so after finding the bicycle? Have we ever learned what they were? And, in view of all the discussion since then, have they taken on any more significance since then?
 
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Certainly LE knows BM's phone's whereabouts on Saturday.

I'm not ready to place him in Salida Saturday afternoon. MG mentioned she "heard that" which is the literal definition of hearsay. IMO, thats extremely unreliable.

If BM is guilty, I think it is very unlikely he was in Salida early Saturday afternoon. I say this because if he put someone up to this, he would make sure he had a solid alibi (such as being seen in town) and wouldn't have staged the bike and attempted to mess with the timeline. I also have a very hard time believing he would venture into town immediately after harming SM. It just seems he would be more concerned, initially, with destroying evidence, hiding the body, cleaning up and calming down. I think all that takes time. If he was in town, it would be more likely to have been early evening. IMO (4-7 pm)? And if so, what was he shopping for? Bleach? Cooler (might explain LEs interest, IMO)?

Of course this is all speculation and MOO. My main point is I think MGs report that she heard he was in town Saturday afternoon should be taken lightly at this point. JMO.
JP told LS he met up with him Saturday afternoon, in Salida.
So, MG isn't the only one claiming this, but JP says it firsthand.
I've posted the link several times:
Suzanne Morphew’s husband left Denver hotel, contractor claims room was “reeking of chlorine” | FOX21 News Colorado

Listen at :44 in.
 
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