Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #35

[Louise369]

Isn’t it interesting that BM was able to get a crew of three together with pretty much zero notice, on Mother’s Day and have them drive 3+ hours that same day to stay near a job site for multiple days for a project that never happened. That quite the stroke of luck.

I hope I’m doing this quote thing right? Eggsalad- I think it was MG who got the crew together , not Barry right? Also - these are workers...they go where they are told, they can’t be picky on the day/time they work. Beggars can’t be choosers. They need the money and Barry is the boss. No one likes to work on a holiday but I just think in this line of work you take what you can get when you can get it.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Either he murdered her in an unplanned rage or he had a plan... I'm thinking if there was a plan, it went off the rails quickly...

IF he had help, maybe it was supposed to go down differently... military extraction style. Go in, get out, but with the girl. Maybe he mapped out her route and her habits for someone he could pay handsomely "for the opportunity" and have them spirit his wife away while he was at his alibi -- with Morgan in Salida. An ACTUAL alibi, all day long. That car parked oddly down that way...

While I spin my wheels on this puzzler, I am hopeful that LE is hard at work ironcladding this.

He could save us all a whole heap of trouble if he'd rake the Bobcat over his brain and come out with the truth of what happened. "Let me show you..." He could spare his daughters the grief of not knowing where their mother is. He could spare LE a world of dollars.

It's not too soon.

JMO

Listen! You maybe right.

 

[Louise369]

I agree with your thinking - though I think there may be a distinction between the legal definition of premeditated vs. pre-planned. I don't believe this was pre-planned by BM, and I think what you've cited above is the strongest evidence to that effect. I do think it's possible that he was planning something, but the timeline got moved up for some reason - I also think it's possible that he didn't do this in a "blind rage" but made an unplanned, but premeditated, decision that weekend. JMO, MOO.

I’m curious what gives you an indication that “he was planning something and the timeline got moved up”. I’m open to the idea ...but what gives you that feeling? I don’t have that feeling at all ... so I’d just like to know how others feel that way.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I'd normally agree but his statement was pretty provocative and I believe it was meant to be so.
Why say anything? At this point, no one is getting a pass from me.
I'm very open minded so this also means I'm not condemning him either.
All I know is ALL of it had better come out in the wash, one of these days, hopefully!

I suspect it's entirely possible he was being relentlessly hounded by media, vloggers and random strangers that seem to think they have some sort of right to track people down on social media and accuse them of whatever rumor strikes their fancy that day. I mean, you don't have to look very far to see how creepy folks are behaving on social media.

I would have advised him to say nothing at all, but if he was fed up with the insanity, it makes sense why he'd fire off that smart mouth comment. I honestly don't blame him - but I'd still have advised him to say nothing.

jmo

 

[ivegotthemic]

I agree with your thinking - though I think there may be a distinction between the legal definition of premeditated vs. pre-planned. I don't believe this was pre-planned by BM, and I think what you've cited above is the strongest evidence to that effect. I do think it's possible that he was planning something, but the timeline got moved up for some reason - I also think it's possible that he didn't do this in a "blind rage" but made an unplanned, but premeditated, decision that weekend. JMO, MOO.

Just to help clear it up from a legal standpoint: Premeditation, being a process of the mind, is wholly subjective and hence not always susceptible to proof by direct evidence. It may be inferred from all the circumstances surrounding the event. It is not necessary for premeditation to exist for a specific length of time. While premeditation requires no specific period of time for deliberation, some amount of time must pass between the formation of the intent and the carrying out of the act.

A premeditated decision to kill may be reached in a short period of time (its debated how long but a few minutes is enough). However, an unconsidered or rash impulse, even though it includes an intent to kill, is not premeditated. premeditation is the deliberate formation of and reflection upon the intent to take a human life, and involves the mental process of thinking beforehand, deliberation, reflection, weighing, or reasoning for a period of time, however short.

A defendant's actions before and after a murder are relevant to the question of premeditation. Evidence that the defendant had previously sought to carry out or had made preparations for the killing of the victim tends to establish deliberation and premeditation and is, therefore, relevant. Evidence regarding the accused's behavior after the killing may include evidence of the accused's treatment of the victim's remains, or of the accused's behavior and demeanor.

 

[marylamby]

I was referencing the participants who've been interviewed by LE, their info and their motives in talking to the media. But even so, the sheriff doesn't seem to believe the release of this info by LS, PE, etc. will help the case, or LE would have released it, per his statements.

Anyway, the idea that the third worker's statement is provocative? Well, the media don't seem to care how he would be treated by public opinion if he gave them statements about this case, yet they continued to pester him for statements after he refused, and the prominent release of his provocative tweet when he apparently got frustrated just highlights their lack of concern. They could have just written he declined to comment, after all, but that wouldn't be salacious, would it?

LE hasn't released crappola and to assume they would've released statements about those interviewed is unreasonable, IMO.
HE made the statement, all on his own. He didn't have to say anything but I'm being redundant.
If you don't want your words or interview out there then just be quiet, as he was before that statement.
Don't answer calls from people who's number you don't recognize, ignore reporters etc.
Easy peasy.

 

[EggSalad]

I hope I’m doing this quote thing right? Eggsalad- I think it was MG who got the crew together , not Barry right? Also - these are workers...they go where they are told, they can’t be picky on the day/time they work. Beggars can’t be choosers. They need the money and Barry is the boss. No one likes to work on a holiday but I just think in this line of work you take what you can get when you can get it.

It sounds like BM got JP and MG onboard. We’re not sure about CC but I guess it’s implied that MG got up with him.

And I agree with what you’re saying but I’m also not sure that MG and CC are full time employees of BM, meaning like JP they may work for other companies too.

It just seems so lucky that all three of them had schedules that were open Sunday through at least Tuesday and that they could drop what they were doing on Sunday and drive 3+ hours out of town that day.

I’m not really sure where I am going with this. It just sticks out to me that with no notice, BM lined up three people on Mother’s Day to go to Broomsfield. Kind of an odd coincidence, no?

 

[NuttMegg]

I hope I’m doing this quote thing right? Eggsalad- I think it was MG who got the crew together , not Barry right? Also - these are workers...they go where they are told, they can’t be picky on the day/time they work. Beggars can’t be choosers. They need the money and Barry is the boss. No one likes to work on a holiday but I just think in this line of work you take what you can get when you can get it.

They could have driven up Monday morning, leaving at, say, 5 am, and could have been there by 8. He would have saved the price of the hotel, and he could have done the 1/2 hour of preparation just before they got there or had them do it. The employees with children/spouses could have enjoyed Mother's Day, and the whole job would have been less expensive for the employer. He didn't arrange the dirt and bricks, so they couldn't begin Monday morning anyway.

 

[Louise369]

It sounds like BM got JP and MG onboard. We’re not sure about CC but I guess it’s implied that MG got up with him.

And I agree with what you’re saying but I’m also not sure that MG and CC are full time employees of BM, meaning like JP they may work for other companies too.

It just seems so lucky that all three of them had schedules that were open Sunday through at least Tuesday and that they could drop what they were doing on Sunday and drive 3+ hours out of town that day.

I’m not really sure where I am going with this. It just sticks out to me that with no notice, BM lined up three people on Mother’s Day to go to Broomsfield. Kind of an odd coincidence, no?

I don’t find it odd. MG was already set to go up there as it was supposed to be just her and Barry. And yeah I guess Barry talked to JP on Saturday (would love to know what time) and he got on Board and CC did too. I don’t find this to be anything nefarious when taking into account this line of work.

 

[marylamby]

I suspect it's entirely possible he was being relentlessly hounded by media, vloggers and random strangers that seem to think they have some sort of right to track people down on social media and accuse them of whatever rumor strikes their fancy that day. I mean, you don't have to look very far to see how creepy folks are behaving on social media.

I would have advised him to say nothing at all, but if he was fed up with the insanity, it makes sense why he'd fire off that smart mouth comment. I honestly don't blame him - but I'd still have advised him to say nothing.

jmo

I agree he might've been frustrated and that he should've just stayed quiet but if you don't want your words or actions scrutinized then why THAT statement?
How about something like, "Leave me the **** alone!". That would suffice, IMO.
To me, everything has a reason even if he wasn't aware of it himself - but I think he was.
JMO

 

[sunflowerchick]

I found his text to LS to be extremely obnoxious. This isn't about rumors or protecting BM or yourself from gossip, it's about a missing mother and closure for her girls. Justice.
He should replace that smug little attitude with some straight talk and empathy. jmo

With all due respect, AFAIK, the missing woman is nothing to him. Does his smugness make him an insensitive person? Definitely. Does it mean he is guilty of something else? Probably not. We have NO idea if he has talked to LE, if he is cooperating with them. If he is, I'll give him a pass for his flippant attitude.

 

[EggSalad]

I don’t find it odd. MG was already set to go up there as it was supposed to be just her and Barry. And yeah I guess Barry talked to JP on Saturday (would love to know what time) and he got on Board and CC did too. I don’t find this to be anything nefarious when taking into account this line of work.

But didn’t MG say that she found out on Sunday when Barry called her?

So BM knows enough about the Broomsfield plan that he meets JP in person on Saturday to talk to him about it. But then his own two employees find out the day of? (Sunday).

And it just so happens that all three of them can make it and BM doesn’t have to go find anyone else?

Something just doesn’t make sense but it’s really just a gut feeling at the moment.

 

[Louise369]

They could have driven up Monday morning, leaving at, say, 5 am, and could have been there by 8. He would have saved the price of the hotel, and he could have done the 1/2 hour of preparation just before they got there or had them do it. The employees with children/spouses could have enjoyed Mother's Day, and the whole job would have been less expensive for the employer. He didn't arrange the dirt and bricks, so they couldn't begin Monday morning anyway.

The 5am Sunday departure from Barry on Sunday was unnecessary And suspicious , I agree. However, workers start very early in the morning at least where I live due to warmer temps Later in the day. It would make sense for the workers to wake up at 5am on Monday in the location they are working and get started vs. having to drive up there on Monday.

The fact that the wall job was just supposed to be him and Morgan then got changed to include the others , is weird.

 

[sunflowerchick]

Isn’t it interesting that BM was able to get a crew of three together with pretty much zero notice, on Mother’s Day and have them drive 3+ hours that same day to stay near a job site for multiple days for a project that never happened. That quite the stroke of luck.

I don't think that's "quite the stroke of luck". I think it's indicative of the fact that there aren't many job opportunities in Salida. Perhaps these aren't stellar employees. Perhaps they have burned through other job opportunities (who know why) and are glad to have this paycheck. JMO I don't really know.

 

[Louise369]

But didn’t MG say that she found out on Sunday when Barry called her?

So BM knows enough about the Broomsfield plan that he meets JP in person on Saturday to talk to him about it. But then his own two employees find out the day of? (Sunday).

And it just so happens that all three of them can make it and BM doesn’t have to go find anyone else?

Something just doesn’t make sense but it’s really just a gut feeling at the moment.

I’ll have to rewatch the interview with MG. I was under the impression that she knew about the Sunday job in advance. (Before Sunday)

 

[Louise369]

But didn’t MG say that she found out on Sunday when Barry called her?

So BM knows enough about the Broomsfield plan that he meets JP in person on Saturday to talk to him about it. But then his own two employees find out the day of? (Sunday).

And it just so happens that all three of them can make it and BM doesn’t have to go find anyone else?

Something just doesn’t make sense but it’s really just a gut feeling at the moment.

I’ll have to rewatch the interview with MG. I was under the impression that she knew about the Sunday job in advance. (Before Sunday)

 

[10ofRods]

Why would you keep your window down?

Because CoVid is something like 100X more likely to be transmitted in an enclosed space.

Air movement is crucial. Outdoor air doesn't contain CoVid when you're traveling down a road - so way better than just opening an apartment window into an airwell.

 

[foxbluff]

How so? I can't search it right now so if you can give me the cliffs notes, I'd appreciate it. TIA!

I had copied/pasted @Dave F.'s very interesting and clever post to Word. Now I'm copying/pasting it from Word...all the bolding and underlining were done by me. Fox

Dave F. said: ↑ MG had her phone set so that it reversed the image. In this Daily Mail article, there is a photo of her from the Lauren Scharf interview which shows her hair parted on one side of her head, positioned next to her selfie taken in the car, with the part of the opposite side.

Also, if you look closely, her two front teeth are set slightly to one side of her mouth. As a final check, look at the hardhat which clearly says "DSI" reversed. That must be JP's headgear.
In the selfie with JP in the back seat, (which is also reversed) she is clearly driving, and he is on the rear passenger side. IMO
Employee of Suzanne Morphew's husband DENIES they were having an affair after Colorado mom vanished | Daily Mail Online

 

[Hoosierfan72]

I’m curious what gives you an indication that “he was planning something and the timeline got moved up”. I’m open to the idea ...but what gives you that feeling? I don’t have that feeling at all ... so I’d just like to know how others feel that way.

I don't know if he had been planning something or not, but here's why I think it's a possibility (clearly all MOO, JMO):
a) We don't have any solid evidence that BM has a history of violence. While that doesn't mean there isn't something there that we aren't aware of, I think someone without a history of violence is less prone to "snapping" to the point of murder.
b) The cover-up. I think if someone snaps and kills someone they love, I don't think the first instinct is going to be to cover up the entire crime. I think it's far more likely they come up with a story of how it was an accident, etc. than trying to hide a body and hide the crime altogether. If he had been thinking about it for some time, they maybe have already thought about how to hide a body, then that's another story.
c) The distancing language. I know this is somewhat minor, but the way BM talks about SM without any emotion, using distancing language, etc. is evidence (IMO) that his feelings for her had faded significantly. I just don't see someone in love who lost his temper - I see someone who is cold and distant and maybe had been giving this some thought for some time.
d) MG saying he was acting weird on Saturday. This was almost certainly when SM was still alive, so why was he acting weird? Was it a huge fight on Friday and he was upset? Was he contemplating murder?

Anyway, I could be like BM's hotel towels (all wet) on this and completely wrong, but that's my train of thought. JMO, MOO.

 

[NuttMegg]

The 5am Sunday departure from Barry on Sunday was unnecessary And suspicious , I agree. However, workers start very early in the morning at least where I live due to warmer temps Later in the day. It would make sense for the workers to wake up at 5am on Monday in the location they are working and get started vs. having to drive up there on Monday.

The fact that the wall job was just supposed to be him and Morgan then got changed to include the others , is weird.

Also weird that he did just 1/2 hour of preparation on the site after leaving home at 5 am, and that he didn't bother to supply the workers with the tools and dirt they needed. I just don't get the feeling that his employees are at his beck and call, I get the feeling that, instead, he rounds of some of the guys/gals every now and then. I doubt that they are on any set number of hours per week, probably they are self employed independent contractors I would guess, ie that they get a 1099 at the end of the year and pay their own taxes. Also, BM mentioned that he offered at least JP "good money" to go up there, so it sounds like it wasn't a typical job.