Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #35

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  • #221
I agree...
And thus far he refuses to speak...
That we are aware of, he may have talked to LE CBI, FBI a good while ago, and they need Barry to act or do something specific to prove his story. I do think this waiting game that is making us crazy is a carefully thought through plan. I think when we finally are in the know BM may make Watts and especially Frazee look like the amateur idiots they were. IMO
 
  • #222
I don’t find it odd. MG was already set to go up there as it was supposed to be just her and Barry. And yeah I guess Barry talked to JP on Saturday (would love to know what time) and he got on Board and CC did too. I don’t find this to be anything nefarious when taking into account this line of work.

I've posted the link numerous times, but JP has said that he spoke to BM Saturday afternoon, in Salida. He didn't say what time in the afternoon, but that certainly does narrow down the timeline quite a bit.
 
  • #223
I've posted the link numerous times, but JP has said that he spoke to BM Saturday afternoon, in Salida. He didn't say what time in the afternoon, but that certainly does narrow down the timeline quite a bit.

It does narrow down the timeline. Thanks for sharing that.
 
  • #224
I had copied/pasted @Dave F.'s very interesting and clever post to Word. Now I'm copying/pasting it from Word...all the bolding and underlining were done by me. Fox

Dave F. said: MG had her phone set so that it reversed the image. In this Daily Mail article, there is a photo of her from the Lauren Scharf interview which shows her hair parted on one side of her head, positioned next to her selfie taken in the car, with the part of the opposite side.

Also, if you look closely, her two front teeth are set slightly to one side of her mouth. As a final check, look at the hardhat which clearly says "DSI" reversed. That must be JP's headgear.
In the selfie with JP in the back seat, (which is also reversed) she is clearly driving, and he is on the rear passenger side. IMO
Employee of Suzanne Morphew's husband DENIES they were having an affair after Colorado mom vanished | Daily Mail Online
Thanks so much for responding and providing this.
I'm not convinced that that is a reversed image. I don't find any of it definitive.
 
  • #225
But didn’t MG say that she found out on Sunday when Barry called her?

So BM knows enough about the Broomsfield plan that he meets JP in person on Saturday to talk to him about it. But then his own two employees find out the day of? (Sunday).

And it just so happens that all three of them can make it and BM doesn’t have to go find anyone else?

Something just doesn’t make sense but it’s really just a gut feeling at the moment.

I agree, the whole last minute/do the wall repair on Sunday/send a crew instead of the original plan... doesn't make any kind of rational sense. The thing that's missing, is probably just the truth, but so far I don't think we've heard a lot of that.

jmo
 
  • #226
The 5am Sunday departure from Barry on Sunday was unnecessary And suspicious , I agree. However, workers start very early in the morning at least where I live due to warmer temps Later in the day. It would make sense for the workers to wake up at 5am on Monday in the location they are working and get started vs. having to drive up there on Monday.

The fact that the wall job was just supposed to be him and Morgan then got changed to include the others , is weird.

So if he left at 5 am on Mother’s Day to head up to Broomfield, but only did 30 minutes of work-what was he doing the rest of the day until 5:45 pm?
 
  • #227
So if he left at 5 am on Mother’s Day to head up to Broomfield, but only did 30 minutes of work-what was he doing the rest of the day until 5:45 pm?

This is what I would love to know. My guess is hiding a body then taking a nap and a shower. Or , just taking a nap and a shower.
 
  • #228
So if he left at 5 am on Mother’s Day to head up to Broomfield, but only did 30 minutes of work-what was he doing the rest of the day until 5:45 pm?

Likely, attempting to construct a believable alibi, that included Broomfield, the 3 crew members and whatever else he's told LS that we haven't heard about yet.

jmo
 
  • #229
So if he left at 5 am on Mother’s Day to head up to Broomfield, but only did 30 minutes of work-what was he doing the rest of the day until 5:45 pm?

Also- remember he HAD to be up there all day. We don’t have an idea of when Suzanne’s “bike ride” was. So let’s say she “left for her bike ride” in the afternoon, Barry knew he had to remain in Broomsfield in order to have his alibi.
 
  • #230
I hate to ask this question. But with the potential missing cooler thing. I know Suzanne was small. But could a body fit in a cooler without being dismembered?
 
  • #231
I was asked to come over to this thread to post some technology information. I gather that Suzanne's brother is organizing a search. Lidar technology is available that can be mounted on both drones and small aircraft. Large areas scanned from the air by Lidar produce a ground terrain map that has the option to remove all trees and vegetation, leaving only the ground and objects on it. It has been used with great success in locating lost cities in jungles and old forgotten fortifications here in the US and Canada that have been overgrown. It has now become a Forensic tool to scan crime scenes, air crash sites, etc. This could be helpful in checking areas where the ground may have been disturbed or where there may be dirt mounds from a buried body. Most areas of the country have one or more ground mapping services that have Lidar on aircraft, drones or both.

Thanks for bringing your information over. I hope someone with authority looks into this to see if it would help them with their search.
 
  • #232
Also- remember he HAD to be up there all day. We don’t have an idea of when Suzanne’s “bike ride” was. So let’s say she “left for her bike ride” in the afternoon, Barry knew he had to remain in Broomsfield in order to have his alibi.
He also had to stage the bike and throw the items out beside the highway before he left on Sunday morning. No one has ever said they saw her bike where it was found all day Sunday. It just sat there. That seems odd but possible I guess.
 
  • #233
I don't know if he had been planning something or not, but here's why I think it's a possibility (clearly all MOO, JMO):
a) We don't have any solid evidence that BM has a history of violence. While that doesn't mean there isn't something there that we aren't aware of, I think someone without a history of violence is less prone to "snapping" to the point of murder.
b) The cover-up. I think if someone snaps and kills someone they love, I don't think the first instinct is going to be to cover up the entire crime. I think it's far more likely they come up with a story of how it was an accident, etc. than trying to hide a body and hide the crime altogether. If he had been thinking about it for some time, they maybe have already thought about how to hide a body, then that's another story.
c) The distancing language. I know this is somewhat minor, but the way BM talks about SM without any emotion, using distancing language, etc. is evidence (IMO) that his feelings for her had faded significantly. I just don't see someone in love who lost his temper - I see someone who is cold and distant and maybe had been giving this some thought for some time.
d) MG saying he was acting weird on Saturday. This was almost certainly when SM was still alive, so why was he acting weird? Was it a huge fight on Friday and he was upset? Was he contemplating murder?

Anyway, I could be like BM's hotel towels (all wet) on this and completely wrong, but that's my train of thought. JMO, MOO.
I totally agree with your points and actually studies have actually shown in cases of intimate partner homicide its more likely that the husband will have no previous history of domestic violence. So this is very common to find. I also agree that the distancing language is important. It tells us what hes thinking about how hes internally handling the events. There are only a few reasons, IMO, he would be distancing himself from SM right now and most of them involve guilt
 
  • #234
He also had to stage the bike and throw the items out beside the highway before he left on Sunday morning. No one has ever said they saw her bike where it was found all day Sunday. It just sat there. That seems odd but possible I guess.

Was the location of the bike something that could be seen from the street or even from other hikers/bikers? It is incredibly odd that no one reported seeing a bike there all day Sunday.
 
  • #235
I totally agree with your points and actually studies have actually shown in cases of intimate partner homicide its more likely that the husband will have no previous history of domestic violence. So this is very common to find. I also agree that the distancing language is important. It tells us what hes thinking about how hes internally handling the events. There are only a few reasons, IMO, he would be distancing himself from SM right now and most of them involve guilt
Maybe this was the first time she solidly put her foot down?
MOO.
 
  • #236
Maybe this was the first time she solidly put her foot down?
MOO.
Honestly this could be very likely, he probably couldnt handle the lose of total control and just snapped. Although not necessarily immediately I think hed been planning it a while, and there was some sort of fight that pushed him to act
 
  • #237
I believe it was established upthread that the photo is mirrored, and therefore MG is driving.
I'm more interested as to the reason she felt she needed to take a selfie showing both JP and herself. o_O
 
  • #238
Maybe this was the first time she solidly put her foot down?
MOO.
Possible. IF she was attacked while on social media with her friend, that points to something other than an argument that boiled over, IMO..... so if that's the case, something had to have changed, and that could have been it. JMO.
 
  • #239
Actually, yes, the individual texts are there in the Cloud - at least for a while, depending on provider. They are encrypted so that in theory, they are safe and and privately stored.

180 days is the storage time listed in the article below, which also says that all it takes for LE to get them is a subpoena.

No Warrant, No Problem: How the Government Can Get Your Digital Data — ProPublica

So yep, with or without phone, text messages are available for 180 days to LE. Must be a fascinating morass in this case.

Facebook messages are also available by subpoena, but I don't know how long they keep them.

Perhaps one of our lawyers will weigh in, but I believe these subpoenas are only available to LE and in criminal cases.

Thanks @10ofRods and also @EggSalad for the valuable info. You guys rock! (I wonder if BM was aware of how all that works? If not, he probably is now.)
 
  • #240
I believe it was established upthread that the photo is mirrored, and therefore MG is driving.

Exactly! Post #51 earlier in this thread posted by @Dave F. explained the seating in the car photo! It would be worth your time re-reading if anyone is still questioning who was riding where MOO
 
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