Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #36

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  • #681
He may have walked around but I don’t know that he was actually searching for her.

Regardless, no one has reported a thing about such efforts since and I think it would come out had he been searching.

There are other ways to help with a missing loved one- starting search centers (so many families have done this), hosting repeated vigils (also common), having a special church service focused on the missing loved one, printing mass amounts of flyers, participating in interviews and having press conferences, starting foundations, contacting missing persons’ groups for assistance, appearing with police during please for information, paying for billboards, etc.

We haven’t seen any of that. Dude hasn’t done any of the things I’ve seen innocent, anguished families do.

The thought that he is practical and feels like she’s dead and so what’s the point, doesn’t seem like a neurologically typical reaction of family regarding their missing loved one. Unless they’re sociopathic and don’t care that the person is gone. In other words, coincidentally, the missing “loved one” actually isn’t loved.

But that’s the kind of coincidence I don’t believe in. Would be exceedingly rare.
Nancy G: Is Barry doing any searches? Lauren: "Not that I know of, Nancy."
 
  • #682
I would also like to know how they secured the warrant to start digging up that jobsite, They sure didn't get a warrant based on a hunch.


(Tiger0822) . Great point! The neighbor heard machinery running in the middle of the night. If this is correct could a camera have caught BM at sometime going towards/on his way to the building site to do a ‘mechanical thing‘ with the bob-cat. MOO
 
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  • #683
MOO a man being gruff and stand-offish when meeting his wife's chemo mates is truly being very rude. Can't muster pleasantries under that condition?
Very true. I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it again, IF BM is innocent in disappearing SM, then he is guilty of being a bad husband IMO.

I know some will say - well, he’s a private person or maybe he’s too shy or uncomfortable to speak out, etc...

BM has been controlling the narrative from day one. The only times that BM speaks out is to defend any allegations against HIM. He puts out a 26 sec plea for his missing wife, but gives LS a thirty minute conversation to degrade his workers and accuse LE for everything else. :rolleyes:

I have tried many times to consider other possibilities, but each one falls flat for me. We are approaching 5 months now, and if BM’s alibi or stories matched up, LE would have cleared him by now. In fact, when BM announced he had been cleared, LE was very quick to respond to LS that he was not.

If anyone has other theories that would point away from BM, then I would certainly listen to those (as long as I don’t have to do mental gymnastics to get there) You don’t have to name anyone you may suspect, just hypothetical scenarios.
MOO
 
  • #684
Am I mistaken on this-was it established that AM was referring to Suzanne’s current bout and BM not being on board with CBD? For some reason, I assumed AM was perhaps referring to a time when they were still in Indiana and perhaps CBD was offered to her. Was AM specific that it was since she had moved?
Was it mentioned in the Indy News interview or PE?
 
  • #685
He may have walked around but I don’t know that he was actually searching for her.

Regardless, no one has reported a thing about such efforts since and I think it would come out had he been searching.

There are other ways to help with a missing loved one- starting search centers (so many families have done this), hosting repeated vigils (also common), having a special church service focused on the missing loved one, printing mass amounts of flyers, participating in interviews and having press conferences, starting foundations, contacting missing persons’ groups for assistance, appearing with police during please for information, paying for billboards, etc.

We haven’t seen any of that. Dude hasn’t done any of the things I’ve seen innocent, anguished families do.

The thought that he is practical and feels like she’s dead and so what’s the point, doesn’t seem like a neurologically typical reaction of family regarding their missing loved one. Unless they’re sociopathic and don’t care that the person is gone. In other words, coincidentally, the missing “loved one” actually isn’t loved.

But that’s the kind of coincidence I don’t believe in. Would be exceedingly rare.
bbm
He may have been walking around as early as the night he returned home (the timing varies according to various sources); in order to see what LE was up to !
Seeing as how they've messed this up from the beginning, mishandled evidence, and allowed no less than 10 cops to handle her bike.
Imo.
 
  • #686
Very true. I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it again, IF BM is innocent in disappearing SM, then he is guilty of being a bad husband IMO.

I know some will say - well, he’s a private person or maybe he’s too shy or uncomfortable to speak out, etc...

BM has been controlling the narrative from day one. The only times that BM speaks out is to defend any allegations against HIM. He puts out a 26 sec plea for his missing wife, but gives LS a thirty minute conversation to degrade his workers and accuse LE for everything else. :rolleyes:

I have tried many times to consider other possibilities, but each one falls flat for me. We are approaching 5 months now, and if BM’s alibi or stories matched up, LE would have cleared him by now. In fact, when BM announced he had been cleared, LE was very quick to respond to LS that he was not.

If anyone has other theories that would point away from BM, then I would certainly listen to those (as long as I don’t have to do mental gymnastics to get there) You don’t have to name anyone you may suspect, just hypothetical scenarios.
MOO
At this point, I’d have to do Simone Biles level “mental gymnastics” to believe anyone but BM is responsible.

Everything fits for that, and nothing for another scenario.
 
  • #687
Am I mistaken on this-was it established that AM was referring to Suzanne’s current bout and BM not being on board with CBD? For some reason, I assumed AM was perhaps referring to a time when they were still in Indiana and perhaps CBD was offered to her. Was AM specific that it was since she had moved?
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did he control all of her social media
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i wonder now you know what i mean i
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almost think it was more of a brow
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beating
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than it was anything he was anti-drug
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city
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he suzanne wanted to try some marijuana
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when she was going through her
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chemotherapy because she'd heard that
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really eased a lot of the symptoms
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and he was so against that and i know at
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one time i think it was 2013
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she went through a period there where
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she kind of had a breakdown
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and i think she got an anti-depressant
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or something to help her get out of that
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slump
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and i know he was so against that he
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browbeat her over that almost every day
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and that bothers me too this happens to
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people you know i mean it doesn't mean
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you're a nut

 
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  • #688
She doesn’t need to “prove” anything. It’s law enforcement’s job to verify the veracity of witness statements.

Quite true! Did she ever explain why LE asked her to submit to the lie detector test that she refused to take? I might have missed that part. IMO
 
  • #689
Hello All, sorry I haven’t contributed lately. Have been off the grid on a long planned road trip. Due to COVID, most accommodations are backwoods cabins with no cell service or internet. When I do manage to get online, it’s mostly to check mail, messages, and to pay bills. Then, if I am lucky, I try to catch up with this case. I can’t believe how much new info has come out in the last couple of weeks. I dared not make any comments until I read all the threads. To keep myself occupied, I fiddled with the timeline of just Saturday and Sunday, May 9th and 10th. I did this based on the facts that we have as of now from LE and MSM. Because my background is in Intelligence and analysis, it is always easier for me to “see” a timeline in black and white so I can visualize how things happen chronologically and to also see where there are holes that need to be plugged. When I started out, we used to draw these out by hand. Now you just have to plug in the data and the computer draws it for you.

Saturday 5/9/20

A.M.:
BM & MG at Salida Dig Site (see below) working on the beach area

11:00 a.m.:
BM tells MG to go home. He tells her he has to go home to make wife “happy” and take her hiking or biking. It is not known how long BM stayed at the site after MG left.

12:30 p.m. :
SM is talking with BFF on a message app or FB when suddenly she stops replying.

Afternoon, exact time unknown:
BM contacts JP and hires him for a Bloomfield job on Sunday. According to JP, this was an in person meeting.
MG states that BM was seen shopping around town. Unverified

11:30 p.m.:
A neighbor of a home being built in Salida hears heavy machinery running for about a half hour. BM has been hired to do prep work for a foundation pour at this site. According to MG, he is also prepping the “beach area”. This is where BM and MG were working on Saturday morning.

Sunday 5/10/20

5:00 a.m.:
BM allegedly leaves SM sleeping and heads to a job in Bloomfield, CO approximately 3 hours from his home in Maysville. The job allegedly consists of a repair to a wall that BM had completed the previous September and that had structural problems.

A.M. Exact time unknown:
BM checks into the HIE in Bloomfield.
According to MG, BM contacts her and asks her to get a crew together to head to Broomfield for the job. MG stated that BM sounded like he had the worst night of his life. ?

5:46 p.m.:
SM is reported missing by a neighbor. SM’s daughters allegedly contacted her and said they were worried because they hadn’t been able to reach their mother. Exact details are unclear, but neighbor checked the house and did not find SM but noted her car was there. According to BM in his TD interview, the neighbor then contacted him and he asked her to go back and check if her bike was there. The neighbor checked, returned home, and called BM on her landline and told him the bike was gone. BM asked her to call LE.

Approximately 6:00 p.m.:
BM started home to Maysville.

After 6:00 exact time unknown:
JP, MG, and a third worker arrived at the HIE in Broomfield. It is not clear if all 3 travelled together. JP and MG both report that there was an intense smell of chlorine in the room and several wet towels on the floor. JP stated that it looked like someone had laid down on the bed, on top of the bedspread. MG stated that the bed looked like it had been slept in and remade.

BM let workers know that he had left for a family emergency and that they were on their own. Workers allegedly found some of BM’s tools in a “hotel cart”. MG stated they looked like a bunch of tools from the back of BM’s truck. Both JP and MG indicated they had neither the correct tools nor the materials to do the job.

Approximately 6:00 p.m.:
LE arrives at the Morphew home where they are met by the neighbor who reportedly told them that SM had not returned from a bike ride.

LE begins a search.

Sometime before 9:00 p.m. :
LE allegedly finds SM’s bike down a hill about a quarter of a mile from her home. (Never verified by LE). There is no sign of SM. The Morphew home is allegedly sealed off.

Approximately 9:00 p.m.:
BM arrives home.

Would be interested in seeing if anyone has any corrections or additions they’d like to add.

Wow. Thanks so much for this. It really makes things clearer for me.

Now I have questions:

1. Why did BM have to leave by 5:00 am to go to a job in Bloomfield that he didn’t start when he arrived?

2. Why did he only ask workers to do the job 24 hours in advance? Is that usual in his business?

3. Why didn’t he bring the tools the crew needed for the job?

4. What was he doing from 8:00 am to 6:00 pm in Broomfield and why did it necessitate the use of multiple towels?

Thanks again for that timeline. Awesome.
 
  • #690
Quite true! Did she ever explain why LE asked her to submit to the lie detector test that she refused to take? I might have missed that part. IMO
I don’t think she ever said, but it could be for the same reasons Barry did?
Who knows?
 
  • #691
I have a friend who went thru very long treatment for breast cancer. It was no secret, when she began treatment friends threw a surprise party for her and everyone had shaved their heads. Her brother sent her a bunch of crazy wigs just for fun. I can't imagine her husband decreeing that she couldn't take a medicine or pain relief substance just because HE didn't like it. He went to chemo with her and rubbed her feet and those of other women also hooked up to the chemicals.

Thank goodness, I had a very supportive husband as well, during my breast-cancer period.

JMVHO.
 
  • #692
IIRC, the first time she had cancer she was a very young adult, maybe 19. The second bout I believe was after they moved to CO. IMO

I’m trying to find the source, so far, all I can find is that Suzanne’s cancer returned around the time that they were preparing to move to Colorado. I’m just wondering if AM could have experienced BM’s feelings about marijuana first hand, while they were still in Indiana. Also, trying to remember timeline of possible consideration of anti-depressants. Off in search of a transcript.
 
  • #693
I’m trying to find the source, so far, all I can find is that Suzanne’s cancer returned around the time that they were preparing to move to Colorado. I’m just wondering if AM could have experienced BM’s feelings about marijuana first hand, while they were still in Indiana. Also, trying to remember timeline of possible consideration of anti-depressants. Off in search of a transcript.
IIRC, SM was around 17 when she first had cancer. I remembered that because my daughter-in-law experienced the same and was told kids were not likely, but just like SM, she beat the odds. It made me remember this. Now, I can’t remember where I saw it! I will look!

Maybe, it was in the interview with her friend that also had cancer. She said that SM lost her hair the first time, but not with this bout.
 
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  • #694
I’m trying to find the source, so far, all I can find is that Suzanne’s cancer returned around the time that they were preparing to move to Colorado. I’m just wondering if AM could have experienced BM’s feelings about marijuana first hand, while they were still in Indiana. Also, trying to remember timeline of possible consideration of anti-depressants. Off in search of a transcript.
Look ^^^^ I posted it.
 
  • #695
The $500,000 inheritance does not just “become”half of Barry’s just because she put it into the purchase of the house that they both lived in. If they were to divorce , and assuming the funds were still available and that equity exists , the Money would go directly back to her. He does not get half of it. If she were to die though , the inheritance money would go to him - called “spousal inheritance”. At least that’s how it is in some other states. No sure about CO I guess.
 
  • #696
I’m trying to find the source, so far, all I can find is that Suzanne’s cancer returned around the time that they were preparing to move to Colorado. I’m just wondering if AM could have experienced BM’s feelings about marijuana first hand, while they were still in Indiana. Also, trying to remember timeline of possible consideration of anti-depressants. Off in search of a transcript.
Your first sentence. That's what I remember AM saying to PE in the most recent interview, I remember that because I had thought before that she came down with it in Colorado.
 
  • #697
DBM question already answered
 
  • #698
It's a nosy question. An answer that she wanted to use medical weed, but her husband forbade it, is an intimate detail that a normal person would not reveal in a rare conversation. IMO

I must be the “nosiest” person when it comes to my loved ones, then.

Right now I’m on an update email chain for a relative of my law partner, regarding daily updates of how they’re doing, what procedures they’re undergoing, etc.


It’s not at all a nosy question in most families. That’s her brother. Not some random dude.

Also, when someone has cancer, invariably, a bunch of people offer tons of unsolicited advice about treatments, supplements, etc.

I can see Suzanne saying to her brother, in response to a question about whether she’s tried marijuana: “I’ve thought about it. But you know Barry is very much against it. He thinks it’s a slippery slope to drug use. I don’t want to upset him. But it’s okay.”

She also may have told a close girlfriend of her issues and that was recently told to AM.
 
  • #699
Very true. I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it again, IF BM is innocent in disappearing SM, then he is guilty of being a bad husband IMO.

I know some will say - well, he’s a private person or maybe he’s too shy or uncomfortable to speak out, etc...

BM has been controlling the narrative from day one. The only times that BM speaks out is to defend any allegations against HIM. He puts out a 26 sec plea for his missing wife, but gives LS a thirty minute conversation to degrade his workers and accuse LE for everything else. :rolleyes:

I have tried many times to consider other possibilities, but each one falls flat for me. We are approaching 5 months now, and if BM’s alibi or stories matched up, LE would have cleared him by now. In fact, when BM announced he had been cleared, LE was very quick to respond to LS that he was not.

If anyone has other theories that would point away from BM, then I would certainly listen to those (as long as I don’t have to do mental gymnastics to get there) You don’t have to name anyone you may suspect, just hypothetical scenarios.
MOO
Great post. ITA!
 
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