Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #36

[EggSalad]

But if LE thinks he is guilty wouldn’t they have already searched there, there and then there?

I’d imagine so. But they will have more man power as well as some new technology involved in the search this week. I’d imagine there has been at least an initial search in every place the volunteers go this week.

 

[MrsWatson]

We've seen many cases where bodies were missed during initial searches, so even if they do a second pass on places, it won't hurt, imo. Just the pictures of the terrain involved, it's truly like a needle in a haystack.

 

[Orgona]

LS asked him what his last words to Suzanne were. He didn't have an answer.

Wow, just wow.

JMO

This is really bugging me, although his no response isn’t surprising.
This would be an easy question to answer.
It depends on when he last saw and spoke to her.

According to him in the TD interview it should have been Saturday evening because SM supposedly slept when BM left the Sunday morning. So it should have been like good night honey (if they went to sleep the same time), or good night honey I go to sleep (if they didn’t because he had to get up early) or happy Mother’s Day because I won’t be here when you wake up. Or whatever they usually said to each other at night.
If someone’s spouse really disappeared -assuming they are innocent- it would be normal to play the last moments they spoke to them in their mind over and over again to find comfort or even to look for clues if anything was amiss at the time.

 

[Trackergd]

We've seen many cases where bodies were missed during initial searches, so even if they do a second pass on places, it won't hurt, imo. Just the pictures of the terrain involved, it's truly like a needle in a haystack.

So very true. I have seen it dozens of times. An entire park searched a number of times with trained searchers and dogs and the subject was finally found in the middle of a tall grass field. A missing vet from a veterans home found just over a fence line on private property that was barred from the search area. It's a long list.

 

[EggSalad]

Tonight on PE, AM was talking about the search. He stated that he does not think that the perp had enough time to take Suzanne far, that she is nearby and not well hidden.

Sounds like LE is beginning to share more sensitive timeline info with AM.

Yeah I noticed that, IIRC he estimates 30-40 miles at the most.

That is still such a daunting amount of ground to cover in that area. I’m hopefully some of the new technology being used, particularly the VisualLaw stuff will be a big benefit.

Yes. I think he was pushing the same narrative as Barry, without coming out and saying it: “Law enforcement mishandled the bike.”

He had these insane requirements from the beginning, which almost make it seem like he was hedging his bet (no face on camera for one).

I think the CBI later learned what he told MG, and perhaps threatened him with charges for attempting to interfere with an investigation (or witness intimidation).

Then he went silent, and we lost any hope of learning what happened to that money.

Completely agree. TN was either completely naive and being used as a puppet but BM or he’s more intertwined in this then he should be. But if he was being used as a puppet, I can’t think of an innocent relative that is also a husband and father would 1. Show up to potential intimidate MG on Tuesday and 2. Continue to run a fraudulent .

Maybe being an opportunistic grifter runs in their family?

i would just like to mention, on PE tonight they discussed that some search team members are already on the ground in salida. one man in particular, flew out early, and has been searching geographic regions for 3 days. he found some items today, that he photographed and sent to PE, and they immediately turned those into the sheriff's dept. bc they were DLR (don't look right).

andy also said there have been a few "earth-shattering" tips coming in daily in recent days.

imo.

eta: mike (the volunteer) was on the show, but technical difficulties prevented him from being able to discuss his findings. the evidence team came out and collected the item(s) he found today.

Hell yes! This search is so damn inspiring.

 

[EggSalad]

So what time did TN arrive to the Morphew residence on Sunday? And who called him and when once they begin to learn that SM was missing?

 

[EggSalad]

Paraphrasing:

-I’m scared of what’s out there

-People don’t know the truth

-I left SM sleeping on Sunday

-Two people saw SM on Sunday

-If SM knew this had saved one person she’d be ok with it.


I can’t help but wonder if this is some odd sub conscience info from BM. Last saw her sleeping = dead. The two people that saw her Sunday were the ones that disposed of the body for BM.

 

[EggSalad]

I would be so curious to learn how the CBI/FBI profile a suspect that could allegedly have meth or other substance abuse problems.

Depending on the seriousness of the meth use, I think it would have a dramatic impact on where a suspect would potentially dispose of a body.

I won’t add any other thought to this because I don’t know if I’m out of line with the TOS in bringing it up.

 

[Orgona]

Paraphrasing:

-I’m scared of what’s out there

-People don’t know the truth

-I left SM sleeping on Sunday

-Two people saw SM on Sunday

-If SM knew this had saved one person she’d be ok with it.


I can’t help but wonder if this is some odd sub conscience info from BM. Last saw her sleeping = dead. The two people that saw her Sunday were the ones that disposed of the body for BM.

If someone else seen her Sunday at all. I totally agree with the subconscious message.

Add to this from the TD interview:
-Let me tell you what happened

ETA spelling

 

[Orgona]

I would be so curious to learn how the CBI/FBI profile a suspect that could allegedly have meth or other substance abuse problems.

Depending on the seriousness of the meth use, I think it would have a dramatic impact on where a suspect would potentially dispose of a body.

I won’t add any other thought to this because I don’t know if I’m out of line with the TOS in bringing it up.

I suspect what they are allegedly speaking of is not meth because of his bulked up body. But I’m admittedly not an expert in the field

 

[MsBetsy]

This is really bugging me, although his no response isn’t surprising.
This would be an easy question to answer.
It depends on when he last saw and spoke to her.

According to him in the TD interview it should have been Saturday evening because SM supposedly slept when BM left the Sunday morning. So it should have been like good night honey (if they went to sleep the same time), or good night honey I go to sleep (if they didn’t because he had to get up early) or happy Mother’s Day because I won’t be here when you wake up. Or whatever they usually said to each other at night.
If someone’s spouse really disappeared -assuming they are innocent- it would be normal to play the last moments they spoke to them in their mind over and over again to find comfort or even to look for clues if anything was amiss at the time.

When BM was telling TD about having the girls arriving home late in the day and the plan was to all be together that evening it sounded like he had the conversation with Suzanne about going to Denver that morning.

If it happened the day before, if they really ever discussed it, that may be the last conversation they had. I can't imagine that he would have forgotten what her last words were. As you said, he would likely be going over and over in his mind everything that was said between them before she went missing.

I wonder why he had no reply. Was it too uncomfortable for him to reveal what Suzanne said to him? Would it have been incriminating? Did they argue? Would it have made him feel guilty repeating what her last words were to him?

And why not say who the two people were who saw her on Sunday, or at least where? What harm could it do to the investigation, since according to him, LE already messed it up and are embarrassed so they are blaming him? Wouldn't it be to his benefit to provide more details as to where she was seen and at what time? And if she was seen on Sunday, why not answer his call in the morning or her daughters call? Didn't she have her phone with her?

I can't see any reason for him to be so vague, unless he's hiding something and doesn't want to answer truthfully.

 

[Hatfield]

I've flip flopped on my opinion of this dude. Tonight after hearing Lauren validate he was one of the two men that approached MG and made that insanely stupid comment.

I don't think too highly of him, or the other d-bag. Making that kind of thuggish comment, clearly meant to intimidate Morgan into not cooperating with LE, is just plain stupid. I'm sure LE yanked them both in for questioning on that one.

I have flip flopped too on that one.

When we started to see the administrative changes in the Giveme fund and the spokesperson going silent I thought he had just come to his senses but now that we learn who approached MG it seems obvious LE spoke with him and politely told him if he continues to interfere with the investigation there will be formal charges.

Speaking to MG the way they did is the very definition of interfering with an investigation. It could even be defined as possibly threatening future witnesses in a possible upcoming trial.

The strange thing to me about it is why in the world would this person get so involved in the very beginning. Unless there is more involvement than we realize.
All JMO

 

[Goldenseal]

When BM was telling TD about having the girls arriving home late in the day and the plan was to all be together that evening it sounded like he had the conversation with Suzanne about going to Denver that morning.

If it happened the day before, if they really ever discussed it, that may be the last conversation they had. I can't imagine that he would have forgotten what her last words were. As you said, he would likely be going over and over in his mind everything that was said between them before she went missing.

I wonder why he had no reply. Was it too uncomfortable for him to reveal what Suzanne said to him? Would it have been incriminating? Did they argue? Would it have made him feel guilty repeating what her last words were to him?

And why not say who the two people were who saw her on Sunday, or at least where? What harm could it do to the investigation, since according to him, LE already messed it up and are embarrassed so they are blaming him? Wouldn't it be to his benefit to provide more details as to where she was seen and at what time?

I can't see any reason for him to be so vague, unless he's hiding something and doesn't want to answer truthfully.

It's like his subconscious is busting out all over. For "last words," Most spouses (guilty or not guilty) would be able to give a generic answer "Nite nite, sweetie" or "Love you, see you in the morning", etc. etc. BM seems unable to do this and even unable to anticipate such a question, but also seems unable to come out with the truth, either.

 

[Blue Amethyst]

It looks like BM has a couple of No-Name friends or maybe they are imaginary friends. Is he trying to throw someone else under the bus and save himself?

Thanks to everybody for their posts last night to catch us all up on the latest news.

I am on pins and needles waiting for the search. I so hope they find some clues and it would be a wonderful ending if they did find SM.

Good luck to all that are taking part. Our hearts are with all of you.

 

[Minordetails]

BM seems to create a new lie or narrative at every opportunity to see what sticks.

Can you imagine the 30 hours of FBI interviews? What a train wreck those must be.

BM believes he only told one lie, and in his mind, it wasn’t a lie. BM says he has since clarified with LE the issue with his timeline.

So far, he’s a free man and the ‘lies’ are holding up.

 

[TIGER0822]

I was mulling over this last night. BM claimed two people saw SM alive on Sunday. LE said she was seen “later than previously thought”. I don’t think BM would lie (I know he lies about nearly everything) about this as he knows that LE is watching the interview closely. If these two people are not connected to BM, I believe that she was seen.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

@FromGermany , I noticed it as well! Kind of wonky today.

WOW WOW WOW on the interview with Lauren! And the PE info, tips, things found.

Not one iota of information that points away from BM.

Barry just keeps digging himself a deeper hole. (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

My opinion on him has not changed. Instead, it has solidified.

Every word out of his mouth is a lie.

I suspect it has been for a long time.

I also hope he has LE eyes on him 24/7. I think he's a very dangerous man and whatever walls were crumbling around him are now in piles of smoldering rubble.

MOO

bbm
I just thought while reading: the sentence "Let me tell you, what happened" is guaranteed a sentence, he used several days a week for his poor wife Suzanne as an untrue excuse. IMO (Certainly it began with "LISTEN!!")
Thank you for your info about WS!

 

[MsBetsy]

I have flip flopped too on that one.

When we started to see the administrative changes in the Giveme fund and the spokesperson going silent I thought he had just come to his senses but now that we learn who approached MG it seems obvious LE spoke with him and politely told him if he continues to interfere with the investigation there will be formal charges.

Speaking to MG the way they did is the very definition of interfering with an investigation. It could even be defined as possibly threatening future witnesses in a possible upcoming trial.

The strange thing to me about it is why in the world would this person get so involved in the very beginning. Unless there is more involvement than we realize.
All JMO

I thought for sure he had turned on BM, too. Especially since we learned that TN was the first one who pointed out that the bike looked like it was thrown down the hill. According to AM, Barry didn't want to hear anything about that.

I do think he felt BM was innocent or at least didn't want to believe it. It's not clear how he feels now, since he has been so quiet. He might be in a very difficult position if he has always been loyal to BM.

 

[oviedo]

When BM was telling TD about having the girls arriving home late in the day and the plan was to all be together that evening it sounded like he had the conversation with Suzanne about going to Denver that morning.

If it happened the day before, if they really ever discussed it, that may be the last conversation they had. I can't imagine that he would have forgotten what her last words were. As you said, he would likely be going over and over in his mind everything that was said between them before she went missing.

I wonder why he had no reply. Was it too uncomfortable for him to reveal what Suzanne said to him? Would it have been incriminating? Did they argue? Would it have made him feel guilty repeating what her last words were to him?

And why not say who the two people were who saw her on Sunday, or at least where? What harm could it do to the investigation, since according to him, LE already messed it up and are embarrassed so they are blaming him? Wouldn't it be to his benefit to provide more details as to where she was seen and at what time? And if she was seen on Sunday, why not answer his call in the morning or her daughters call? Didn't she have her phone with her?

I can't see any reason for him to be so vague, unless he's hiding something and doesn't want to answer truthfully.

If the last communication was an argument and he struck her - which resulted in her death then I can see why he wouldn't want to reveal this information.

JMO

 

[swedeheart]

I suspect what they are allegedly speaking of is not meth because of his bulked up body. But I’m admittedly not an expert in the field

i understood it to be implied that it was the same thing he blamed the workers of being on, and steroids were brought up in addition to that, but i could be wrong.

all i know is lauren's response to the question about it spoke volumes.

imo.