Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #36

[Dave F.]

That wall certainly needs fixing. Would Jeff’s explanation apply to that wall? Would anyone refer to the material as “brick”?

“Once you build [the wall] up, you run a layer block, some dirt, get [it] inspected, then you keep continuing until the next level – and there was nothing like that to work with,” Puckett said.

He didn't say "brick" he said "block", and he is generally describing how to build a wall, not how to repair one. IMO

 

[Chocoholic]

That wall certainly needs fixing. Would Jeff’s explanation apply to that wall? Would anyone refer to the material as “brick”?

“Once you build [the wall] up, you run a layer block, some dirt, get [it] inspected, then you keep continuing until the next level – and there was nothing like that to work with,” Puckett said.

Thank you for posting this. I had totally forgotten that I had a question about it. Who would do the inspection? I think another poster may have had a similar question or comment about that. @Birmingplumb maybe?

 

[Dave F.]

Could it be that JP walked right past the stone delivery, looking for the blocks? IMO

 

[Ontario Mom]

This is what baffles me.
The wall that was pictured was this large concrete thing on the highway.
How would those two be able to correct that?
What equipment would you need?
And is it really a two man job?
MOO.

Once again, the Flatiron site that was posted about many threads prior, was a speculation by a member.
We have ZERO verification from any approved source, that the wall pictured is the actual job site for the Mother's day weekend.
I think this is very, very important to note.

 

[Dave F.]

Most of us wouldn't call it brick...Jeff called it block, which is what is in the picture, that looks like a one man job at most. That location is a mile from the Holiday Inn.

It looks to me like it would have to be done when the RTD buses weren't running, because the lane is too narrow to barricade off a safe work area without blocking the buses. Looks to me like just short of an eight hour window (counting mandatory break time) after the last bus Sunday night and the first bus Monday morning. That might require some staging, and at least one worker to carry things to the person actually doing the wall work and do the cleanup as the work progresses. IMO

 

[DizzyB]

He didn't say "brick" he said "block", and he is generally describing how to build a wall, not how to repair one. IMO

Morgan referred to it as “brick” in her interview-at first I thought it was Lauren calling it that in her story, but I went to the transcript, and it was Morgan.
04:19
he said like suzanne has gotten
04:22
gotten attack or a mountain lion has got
04:24
her we're heading up the mountain like
04:27
we're gonna go find what we can
04:28
we're gonna find her um you guys are
04:31
gonna need to wait
04:32
until uh one o'clock or no he said wait
04:35
till eleven o'clock to get the brick

 

[Iwondertoo]

I've been away all day. Is Morgan taking legal action to get her paycheck from Barry?

SBM.

Not that I've read.

It's just one of those conversations that is going round about would she?, could she? and should she? - take legal action.

JMO

 

[Dave F.]

Once again, the Flatiron site that was posted about many threads prior, was a speculation by a member.
We have ZERO verification from any approved source, that the wall pictured is the actual job site for the Mother's day weekend.
I think this is very, very important to note.

The article cited by OP states:
"The Daily Mail reports that Barry Morphew stayed at a Holiday Inn Express in Broomfield, Colorado, just outside of Denver, the night before Suzanne was reported missing. According to the report, Morphew was there to work a landscaping job for transport company RTD-Denver."

Missing Suzanne Morphew’s husband Barry Morphew stayed at hotel the weekend she disappeared; room left full of towels and smelled of chlorine [REPORT]

 

[Dave F.]

Morgan referred to it as “brick” in her interview-at first I thought it was Lauren calling it that in her story, but I went to the transcript, and it was Morgan.
04:19
he said like suzanne has gotten
04:22
gotten attack or a mountain lion has got
04:24
her we're heading up the mountain like
04:27
we're gonna go find what we can
04:28
we're gonna find her um you guys are
04:31
gonna need to wait
04:32
until uh one o'clock or no he said wait
04:35
till eleven o'clock to get the brick

So MG was looking for brick, and JP was looking for block? That doesn't seem very coordinated. IMO

 

[gamma gal]

Good point. I also got the impression that he was unusually focused on MG's raking job, overseeing it like he had never done before. Nitpicking it. Moo

I hope LE has thoroughly checked the beach area....

 

[Ontario Mom]

The article cited by OP states:
"The Daily Mail reports that Barry Morphew stayed at a Holiday Inn Express in Broomfield, Colorado, just outside of Denver, the night before Suzanne was reported missing. According to the report, Morphew was there to work a landscaping job for transport company RTD-Denver."

Missing Suzanne Morphew’s husband Barry Morphew stayed at hotel the weekend she disappeared; room left full of towels and smelled of chlorine [REPORT]

Yes, and this article did not give the specific physical location of the jobsite.
As I've stated a few times now on this thread.

 

[PaulaDC]

I can't remember but has anyone mentioned if SM was possibly buried on Friday evening at the job site and then BM got nervous and went back and dug her up and moved her out of the area?
It sounds like another possibility as does putting her under where the foundation was Friday then moving her to the beach Saturday.
Why was he pacing and looking outside? Like a caged cat. Something has to give!

 

[Iwondertoo]

With regards to the burying at the beach site...

Does anyone else think this doesn't make any sense?

Even I, with no knowledge other than what I've read in the news etc., know that rivers and beaches change with the season and flow of water.

At the edge of flowing water would be the last place I'd bury someone.

Then again I'm not a murderer, but still...

 

[PaulaDC]

I can't remember but has anyone mentioned if SM was possibly buried on Friday evening at the job site and then BM got nervous and went back and dug her up and moved her out of the area?
It sounds like another possibility as does putting her under where the foundation was Friday then moving her to the beach Saturday.
Why was he pacing and looking outside? Like a caged cat. Something has to give!

I mean when is the last in person sighting of SM? Was it by the cleaning woman at the dumpster on Thursday evening?

 

[Feistyomi]

I completely agree with the entirety of your post.

Well said, what seems like new info from MG and JP was available from the beginning, much of it hearsay, IMO, so we’re not much further, evidence wise, than we were. Not bashing them, just questioning their insight, I wish they HAD finished the project, that might have influenced me.

Again, not bashing AM, but I have almost as many questions for him, as I do for BM and he has made several statements leading to more questions.
It has been clarified that he did not say LE told him the Morphew house reeked of bleach, Instead that LE told someone who told me. ..I’m not rewatching these interviews over and over, but imo, he did say he heard it from LE, then had to walk it back and correct it...2 versions or two interviews, one where he corrected himself.
I found it hard to believe LE would leak such info to anyone, isn’t “someone told me someone said” the essence of hearsay?
To be clear, I’m not calling out
AM, as much as merely pointing out that house may “ not have reeked of bleach”.
It’s hard to erase that info from our BM guilty list, tho.

I crossed off the motel room reeking bleach off, because I have several personal experiences/ explanations. Most have been brought up, perhaps I missed the 2,000 flush bleach tablets in toilets. I have several upstairs bathrooms that do not get used unless we have guests, there is a distinct bleach odor.

Off topic; warning, do no use these unless the toilet is used regularly, tablets will corrode the innards...I forgot and put one in about 3 weeks ago, so I am flushing that one daily(shoulda just taken it back out), or often as I remember...Point to this the longer between flushes, stronger the bleach odor...bleach use odors disperse with time, and ventilation. This builds tho.

I’m not sure we have any more true evidence against BM than we did from the first weeks, further the timeline seems to be tightening so that it’s possible BM has been ruled out thru the paper and digital info.
I do have other suspects, but since we can’t sleuth here...I refuse to keep BM as #1...actually, I crossed him off long ago...
I can’t post my list here, of course, but my proposed POIs have more motivation, and opportunity than BM, JMVHO
I just wonder which ones have been vetted and crossed off by LE.

 

[Boxer]

Well said, what seems like new info from MG and JP was available from the beginning, much of it hearsay, IMO, so we’re not much further, evidence wise, than we were. Not bashing them, just questioning their insight, I wish they HAD finished the project, that might have influenced me.

Again, not bashing AM, but I have almost as many questions for him, as I do for BM and he has made several statements leading to more questions.
It has been clarified that he did not say LE told him the Morphew house reeked of bleach, Instead that LE told someone who told me. ..I’m not rewatching these interviews over and over, but imo, he did say he heard it from LE, then had to walk it back and correct it...2 versions or two interviews, one where he corrected himself.
I found it hard to believe LE would leak such info to anyone, isn’t “someone told me someone said” the essence of hearsay?
To be clear, I’m not calling out
AM, as much as merely pointing out that house may “ not have reeked of bleach”.
It’s hard to erase that info from our BM guilty list, tho.

I crossed off the motel room reeking bleach off, because I have several personal experiences/ explanations. Most have been brought up, perhaps I missed the 2,000 flush bleach tablets in toilets. I have several upstairs bathrooms that do not get used unless we have guests, there is a distinct bleach odor.

Off topic; warning, do no use these unless the toilet is used regularly, tablets will corrode the innards...I forgot and put one in about 3 weeks ago, so I am flushing that one daily(shoulda just taken it back out), or often as I remember...Point to this the longer between flushes, stronger the bleach odor...bleach use odors disperse with time, and ventilation. This builds tho.

I’m not sure we have any more true evidence against BM than we did from the first weeks, further the timeline seems to be tightening so that it’s possible BM has been ruled out thru the paper and digital info.
I do have other suspects, but since we can’t sleuth here...I refuse to keep BM as #1...actually, I crossed him off long ago...
I can’t post my list here, of course, but my proposed POIs have more motivation, and opportunity than BM, JMVHO
I just wonder which ones have been vetted and crossed off by LE.

They will have is more digital, camera and electronic info. More interviews and follow ups to the interviews.
Some of that takes more time.

 

[Feistyomi]

I would add that we have a very sparse information set to work with and much of it would not be admissible as evidence before a jury (e.g. general studies of femicide, the investigative significance of search warrants, the refusals to take polygraphs, the mere accusations of criminal history).

Moreover, WSers do what juries are not permitted to do: we speculate and hypothesize, like investigators generating lines of inquiry. I think this can have value in many ways. However, I find it scary that some fail to recognize the limited scope of information we have and the speculative nature of our discussions, and have convinced themselves of BS's guilt. I suspect that projection and confirmation bias may be at work, and I would ask each WSer to reflect on that possibility.

The public has nowhere near the evidence needed to prove that BS killed his wife. Many of the vignettes of BS that we examine are, in fact, equivocal when examined by one applying the presumption of innocence. When we hear that TD observed BS near the river, dripping wet, distraught, slumped over the steering wheel, those who have formed a strong belief in BS's guilt may see a man who just checked to see if SM's body was where he left it, and found to his chagrin that the river had taken her downstream where she might be discovered. The person who applies the presumption of innocence sees a man exhausted after desperately searching the river at great peril to himself, hoping against hope that he finds SM, or at least evidence of her, caught on the rocks and branches.

I love you all, but let's not get ahead of ourselves.

With a degree in General Experimental Psychology, I see great case to be made for experimental bias since the very beginning, also, it is hard to unhear some speculations, and if repeated numerous times, they appear to be true...it would be hard for us to be unbiased, at this point, especially with no one else’s actions to consider...
jmvho

 

[MsBetsy]

Who would be watching this transaction? People get paid in cash all the time and presumably, GM had been paid in cash before, if in fact that's how they rolled.

Where I live, I'd say that about 80% of transactions involving home repair or landscaping work are in cash. I"m just judging from data collected in the Los Angeles area. No one bats an eye. It usually starts (and often continues) by hiring family and friends...

Why would anyone think MG worked in any capacity other than raking sand and so on? As that's what she actually did. Who would even be watching or know about it?

MG said she was approached by the men when she returned to Salida. By then there were probably lots of people around, including LE, volunteer searchers, members of the fire department, SAR searchers, and possibly the media.

By then BM's friend had already complained about the way LE handled the bike and the crime scene, and many of Barry's friends and family members likely new from the beginning that investigators were treating BM as the main suspect.

Not that anyone would question her occupation, but rather they would wonder if she was being paid to keep quiet because she knew something about the disappearance.

IMO

 

[MsBetsy]

Didn't she say she was afraid of him?

She did during the recorded interview but earlier at some point she told LS that she had worked for BM for a long time and always respected him. At some point she must have changed her mind.

 

[branmuffin]

Most of us wouldn't call it brick...Jeff called it block, which is what is in the picture, that looks like a one man job at most. That location is a mile from the Holiday Inn.

Are you referring to the crumbling brick/block that's just above the curb on the lower right? It's the only thing I see in the image that looks like it needs fixing. It seems more of a cosmetic fix than anything. I wouldn't call it a retaining wall.