Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #36

[Feistyomi]

Technically, in my state anyway, we can fire a sub. But we generally need to give written notice to correct the situation within so much time. It's a contract and protocol must be followed, unlike an employer/employee relationship.
Honestly tho, I get the feeling BM and MG didn't have an actual contract but rather a handshake, so to speak. So I guess he could just kick her off the job if he wanted.
But, I haven't heard why he "fired" her, except for speculation.

Thanks, I’m trying not to get us off track. Honestly we don’t have a lot of facts, I’d be more sympathetic toward MG if an attempt to repair wall had been made.
Just curious, if you had a sub contractor in this situation, would you have paid for job not done, completed?

 

[Momofthreeboys]

I would love to hear me info on the wall that required repair because i am struggling to understand why a bobcat would even be needed

Do we even know that he towed the bobcat to Denver?

 

[Ontario Mom]

Technically, in my state anyway, we can fire a sub. But we generally need to give written notice to correct the situation within so much time. It's a contract and protocol must be followed, unlike an employer/employee relationship.
Honestly tho, I get the feeling BM and MG didn't have an actual contract but rather a handshake, so to speak. So I guess he could just kick her off the job if he wanted.
But, I haven't heard why he "fired" her, except for speculation.

She stated herself, why he fired her, and I'm taking her at her word, since she DID actually hand over her phone, willingly.

"She says she heard from Barry again, days after, through text. “He fired me because I gave up my phone, I wasn’t staying quiet and I was complying with CBI,” she said of that interaction." “I’m not the other woman”: Second contractor speaks out about Suzanne Morphew investigation | FOX21 News Colorado

 

[Ontario Mom]

Do we even know that he towed the bobcat to Denver?

No, we have no information that this happened.
All we do know is what MG said about the kinds of tools BM left in the hotel cart (which... really? I mean, does a professional landscaping contractor normally use local hotel carts to tote his tools around in?) weren't even what they needed for the job, and what JP said about not having the right tools/equipment to do the job they went there to do.
Nothing has ever been said in MSM about the bobcat being at the Broomfield site.

 

[TIGER0822]

@OldCop . “If” MG is correct in saying that two people pressured her not to hand over her phone, would that indicate that these two people were 1. Aware that BM committed the murder 2. An accessory to murder. Could LE question these two based on guessing who they are from a TV interview?
My gut instinct is that MG is furious she was fired and that her interview is partially factual and partially embellished in order to gain revenge. My other instinct tells me she was previously infatuated with BM and was hurt a lot by him. Did MG tell LE about this encounter and identify the two people?

 

[Sportn]

According to MG, she was fired specificially because she turned over her phone to the CBI.

"She says she heard from Barry again, days after, through text. “He fired me because I gave up my phone, I wasn’t staying quiet and I was complying with CBI,” she said of that interaction." “I’m not the other woman”: Second contractor speaks out about Suzanne Morphew investigation | FOX21 News Colorado

I'd love to know what his text actually said, and more importantly, I'd love to know what was on her phone that would be so incriminating to BM that he actually sent two people to speak with her and attempt to persuade her into not turning it over. It could be a great number of unsavory things that he most certainly didn't want anyone to know about. Which obviously doesn't prove he killed anyone but it might go a long way to reveal a bit more about his character.

jmo

There is only a the little bit that is known about MG's involvement at this time from the LS interview. I suspect there much, much more to her story that is yet to come. I don't think she had anything to do with SM's disappearance but more along the lines of a unwitting pawn of BM. She was played and used by BM. There is a reason she was interviewed by LE 5 times.

 

[K9Enzo]

Wondering if Lauren has seen the text ? Maybe that will be in the next story ?

jmo

IMO

If the text still exists, I can’t imagine LS didn’t ask to see it.

LS stated she talked to MG for over an hour. No clue the process in deciding what to air and not air. To me, it’s an insane slow drip of info if more will be published weeks & weeks later from that one interview. Some listeners are probably over it, while others will wait patiently & hope for more. IMO

 

[Jo in Calif]

She stated herself, why he fired her, and I'm taking her at her word, since she DID actually hand over her phone, willingly.

"She says she heard from Barry again, days after, through text. “He fired me because I gave up my phone, I wasn’t staying quiet and I was complying with CBI,” she said of that interaction." “I’m not the other woman”: Second contractor speaks out about Suzanne Morphew investigation | FOX21 News Colorado

If you listen to her interview she says "He fired me I think because I gave up my phone and wasn't staying quiet and I was complying with CBI."
When they quoted her in the written article they left out the "I think." So is it that she thinks thats why he fired her or did he actually text her that's why he fired her?

 

[Momofthreeboys]

Regarding the “conversation”, has it been established as vocal or typed? Regardless I suspect the legal relevancy will only be as part of the timeline of known interactions with Suzanne.

 

[JosieMae]

IMO, MG's account of the encounter with two men on Tuesday is both innocent and irrelevant. Let's look at the simple explanation:

BM, being "beside himself", sends the two to give MG her money owed and one of them makes the comment about hush money in a light-hearted manner. A dry joke that falls flat.

As far as the phone comment, maybe MG asks them about her rights regarding relinquishing her cellphone to LE. And the person she asks responds with his opinion of her legal rights.

They successfully complete their errand by paying her. I just don't see two guys roaming the streets of Salida like Mafia henchmen.

 

[DizzyB]

Do we even know that he towed the bobcat to Denver?

For me, the bigger question is why did he have to do a mechanical thing at almost midnight if he didn’t plan on taking the bobcat?

IMO, MG's account of the encounter with two men on Tuesday is both innocent and irrelevant. Let's look at the simple explanation:

BM, being "beside himself", sends the two to give MG her money owed and one of them makes the comment about hush money in a light-hearted manner. A dry joke that falls flat.

As far as the phone comment, maybe MG asks them about her rights regarding relinquishing her cellphone to LE. And the person she asks responds with his opinion of her legal rights.

They successfully complete their errand by paying her. I just don't see two guys roaming the streets of Salida like Mafia henchmen.

When I listened to what Morgan said, she assumed that turning over the phone was the reason for her firing. She has no idea why she got fired. Why did Barry fire her? She seemed to have a good relationship with him, must have been a decent worker as she was tasked and trusted with the crew assembly. She went to Broomfield on Mother’s Day, as asked, waited as instructed when Barry left. What did she do that made it necessary for him to fire her and disparage her? She lost her job because her boss’ wife went missing? Can somebody tell me her fireable offense? I think she considered all the possibilities as to why she was let go, and came up with the most likely reason.

 

[Boxer]

IMO, MG's account of the encounter with two men on Tuesday is both innocent and irrelevant. Let's look at the simple explanation:

BM, being "beside himself", sends the two to give MG her money owed and one of them makes the comment about hush money in a light-hearted manner. A dry joke that falls flat.

As far as the phone comment, maybe MG asks them about her rights regarding relinquishing her cellphone to LE. And the person she asks responds with his opinion of her legal rights.

They successfully complete their errand by paying her. I just don't see two guys roaming the streets of Salida like Mafia henchmen.

MOO this does not sound right, it would be still be disrespectful and menacing to hold back the pay while joking.

 

[MsBetsy]

According to LS' interview with JP, he saw BM Saturday afternoon in Salida, where he (BM) hired him to fix a wall in Broomfield. Direct quote from Lauren Scharf at roughly :40 in.
Suzanne Morphew’s husband left Denver hotel, contractor claims room was “reeking of chlorine” | FOX21 News Colorado

That's what I thought. So in that case I wonder why he didn't (allegedly) tell MG until the next day if she was supposed to get a crew together.

 

[MadTing]

Which takes me back to what were they sifting for in those three days?

I would also like to know how they secured the warrant to start digging up that jobsite, They sure didn't get a warrant based on a hunch.

 

[MadTing]

Do we even know that he towed the bobcat to Denver?

We don't which begs the question, why would you be doing mechanical work on a bob cat you didn't need that day for a job you had to rush and get everybody together for to do at the last minuet.

 

[Ontario Mom]

If you listen to her interview she says "He fired me I think because I gave up my phone and wasn't staying quiet and I was complying with CBI."
When they quoted her in the written article they left out the "I think." So is it that she thinks thats why he fired her or did he actually text her that's why he fired her?

Good catch, I missed the "I think" in the video.

Either way, she obviously suspects that's the real reason she was fired, regardless of whatever reason he gave her in text.

Now I'd love to see LS get an interview with BM's relative and BM's friend, that approached MG and made these comments. I'd really like to hear directly from these 2.

 

[Ontario Mom]

That's what I thought. So in that case I wonder why he didn't (allegedly) tell MG until the next day if she was supposed to get a crew together.

I've had the same thought, as it seems odd.
MG never mentioned that BM said anything to her about the wall fix in Broomfield (and they worked together Saturday morning), until Sunday when he called her.
Yet he lines it up with JP Saturday afternoon in Salida?
It sounds like he was hand picking who he wanted to have available Sunday, before he ever called MG. It'd be interesting to know who asked Cassidy to join the crew, and when he was asked.

 

[Auntie Cipation]

IMO, MG's account of the encounter with two men on Tuesday is both innocent and irrelevant. Let's look at the simple explanation:

BM, being "beside himself", sends the two to give MG her money owed and one of them makes the comment about hush money in a light-hearted manner. A dry joke that falls flat.

As far as the phone comment, maybe MG asks them about her rights regarding relinquishing her cellphone to LE. And the person she asks responds with his opinion of her legal rights.

They successfully complete their errand by paying her. I just don't see two guys roaming the streets of Salida like Mafia henchmen.

You raise an excellent point -- we should never assume that any "story" we learn of, is the COMPLETE story.

Speculation: BM's friends find MG to give her her pay. They presumably chat about the drama of their friend BM's wife being missing and maybe the chat includes how LE seems interested in BM's alibi and general doings.

MG mentions that LE has asked to see her phone. Maybe asks their opinion as you suggest. Friend attempts humor by saying "we wouldn't want this moolah here to look like hush money, now, would we?" in his best New Jersey imitation.

Only a small, contextless bit of that exchange makes it into public knowledge by this point.

I also want to add an opinion/observation of my own. When someone in a small town is suspected of something, especially before there is obvious proof, there will be a tendency for the community to protect that person as if the community itself has been accused.

So if this dynamic is at all in play here, MG might be pressured to not reveal anything negative about BM, even if they have no idea whether he's actually guilty or innocent of this crime. It becomes a "stand with the community" kind of thing. IMO

For me, the bigger question is why did he have to do a mechanical thing at almost midnight if he didn’t plan on taking the bobcat?

IMO we do not have knowledge that he took the Bobcat to Broomfield, nor do we have knowledge that he did the mechanical thing at midnight. The machinery at the Salida search site has not been shown to include the same Bobcat we see at his home in the flyover video. (which Salida equipment may or may not also belong to/be rented by BM, or not. We simply don't know.)

He might have changed the oil of the Bobcat at home on Friday, told them he did it at X time on Saturday, and then got called on it when LE pointed out that at X time Saturday he had claimed to be somewhere else. Could be completely innocent confusion on his part.

Do I believe this is the truth of how it played out? No, I don't believe it. But as for what we KNOW or have proof of, it could just as easily be. It definitely requires an IMO until we know more.

 

[MsBetsy]

RSBM:
“First, whether or not Barry is a bad employer has no bearing on whether he committed a crime against Suzanne”

I’m glad you said this. I’ve been confused by the discussion of the type of employer BM is, and whether the employees are independent contractors or not. Also about the legal remedies MG might take to get paid.

All of the above is interesting to read, but is it relevant to the case? It may be.. ? I’m just struggling to understand how. MOO

I don't think it is relevant either. What's important to me is how much the employees know about the circumstances surrounding Suzanne's disappearance and whether or not they would be credible witnesses.

MG didn't say she never got paid, she just said she was approached by two men when she returned to Salida regarding getting paid at that particular time.

Whether or not she got fired for cooperating with CSI and handing over her phone might be hard to prove depending on what the text said.

 

[MadTing]

I didn't think another case would grab me as much as the daybell case right now but this is right up there!.