Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #36

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  • #841
But if LE thinks he is guilty wouldn’t they have already searched there, there and then there?
Fair enough.

I'm curious if the newer areas to be searched are additional areas where BM's phone pings and gps showed up ?
As in, LE have covered some places but there's still much more ground to search ?
Idk, I think this is freaking sad for this beautiful soul .
Speculation : And to think that someone(s) might know exactly where she is or what happened, but they're more interested in saving their own hides ?
Repulsive.
Imo.
 
  • #842
My guess is he thinks we’re all complete idiots and will just believe him because he said it. He’s that arrogant. He obviously didn’t get the meaning of, “pride cometh before a fall” :)
Yep... it’s a little insulting, isn’t it?

If she were seen by two people on Sunday, surely LE would’ve released a last seen location, and this investigation would’ve been your typical missing persons case. Instead, we’ve seen nothing of the sort. IMO.
 
  • #843
That really bugs me, so odd to come out full tilt like he did and then vanish. WEIRD!!!
And wasn't TN the one who wanted people to inquire about the condition of the bike ?

His actions and later inactions, and now more actions make me curious....and dizzy !
Make up your mind, will you ?
Are you BM's bestie or foe ?
Imo
 
  • #844
Well, from the beginning it was noted that cell phone service in that area is not reliable, so whether they got rid of the landline or never had it in the first place, it seems strange that they would not have a landline.

Suzanne's father also said that after they moved to Colorado they had very little communication with her. I don't think he or AM would have mentioned it if it wasn't a change to what they were used to. I don't think they are exaggerating, especially since AM seemed convinced at first that BM had nothing to do with Suzanne's disappearance. I think he didn't see the warning signs at the time but once he realized BM might be responsible his actions took on a different meaning.

AM said that when he called them, he wouldn't hear back for several days. I don't think he said whether he left messages on Suzanne's phone or not, but he said he left messages for BM that were never returned. BM pointed a finger at SM's family for not communicating with her, but that still doesn't explain why he wouldn't answer AM's calls just to let him know how Suzanne was doing.

That BM was against Suzanne taking medication doesn't necessarily mean he was controlling, but it supports the claim early on that he was controlling and made all the decisions about the finances, and SM took a more submissive role in the marriage.

It's one thing to be against taking medication, but to browbeat, or give someone a hard time about their choices about their own mental health is another thing. Suzanne would know best what the side effects were for any medication she was taking, and it would be entirely her decision. She should not have been made to feel guilty about it, especially since guilt is a common symptom in the first place. I've never heard of any adverse effects of medical marijuana to treat cancer. How would she know if she never tried it? How could Barry know?

BM doesn't sound very supportive to me. According to SM's friend it was her daughter who went with her to the treatment sessions for cancer. If he was so concerned about medication and how she responded to it, why wasn't he there himself?

I think there may have been more problems in the marriage than her family knew, especially since SM had been isolated from them for the past two years. It seems she had confided in at least one of her friends, though.

I don't think money was the primary motivator either, but I do think Suzanne may have considered or asked for a divorce and BM was not willing to let her go.

IMO

Snipped and bolded by me - This is not directed at you @MsBetsy but rather I am just jumping off your post as I remembered a thought I had that I have been meaning to post but kept forgetting to do it.

There's been posters that have wondered/commented why AM said he contacted BM instead of SM. I can think of an easily explainable possibility of why this may have been, as this has happened in my own family at different times. When my brother was fighting prostate cancer, I (and other family members) always texted and/or called his wife instead of him and we did it this way for several reasons, which includes some of the following. We couldn't always remember for example what days he had chemo treatments (or his radiation), so was he at the hospital where it may be more difficult for him to visit/chat/text. We knew it was difficult for him to get restful sleep, plus he napped a lot when the opportunity arose, so we didn't want to take a chance of texting and/or calling his cell phone and disturbing him. Also, not sure if they were having a late lunch, early supper, etc., based on what his appetite was that day, or that day at that particular time, etc. So, we would touch base with his wife and she would keep us updated and then when he had his feel better moments, he would then reach out to us on his time schedule and when it worked out best for him, which we were all just fine with this as we understood how difficult this all was for him, his wife, etc.

So, to sum it up, maybe this could be one of the reasons, or 'the' reason of why AM mentioned that he would contact BM sometimes rather than SM. I do not know this for sure - that's not what I'm saying here. But what I am saying is, that I don't think this has anything to do with his love for his sister, nor do I think it should be spoken about or referred to in a negative sense, because IMO, the love that he has for his sister is amazing and it shows!

JMO/thoughts

ETA - The moral to my story was, that maybe with SM having recently fought another battle of cancer, maybe that is the reason that AM chose to contact BM sometimes instead of SM as maybe AM wasn't quite sure if SM was at hospital/doctor for treatment/check-ups or possibly napping, etc.
 
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  • #845
If anybody told me that i couldn't seek relief from cancer, the treatments, or the side effects, i would tell people about it
Especially a sibling, so i can imagine Suzanne telling her brother

I don't understand your view, but i acknowledge different families handle things in different ways

My views/opinions are strong and biased

My mother died of cancer
My adult daughter is still in a neurorehabiitation program after surgery and radiation for brain cancer in Jan2019

These things are not easy
No way around that
Hard to say what i would do in someone else's situation
I'm so sorry. My mother died of cancer when I was in first grade and they hardly mentioned her again, what with step mothers and all. Cancer was such a verboten topic in the 1950s- 1980s, probably well meaning people who thought it would bring up sadness. I am so in favor of speaking openly about illnesses.
 
  • #846
And wasn't TN the one who wanted people to inquire about the condition of the bike ?

His actions and later inactions, and now more actions make me curious....and dizzy !
Make up your mind, will you ?
Are you BM's bestie or foe ?
Imo
Yes. I think he was pushing the same narrative as Barry, without coming out and saying it: “Law enforcement mishandled the bike.”

He had these insane requirements from the beginning, which almost make it seem like he was hedging his bet (no face on camera for one).

I think the CBI later learned what he told MG, and perhaps threatened him with charges for attempting to interfere with an investigation (or witness intimidation).

Then he went silent, and we lost any hope of learning what happened to that money.
 
  • #847
As someone who just lost her brother to colon cancer a month ago, I can attest to it not being unusual at all that she shared with her brother or that he asked about it in the manner described above. I read up on everything that could help my brother, and the first thing that almost everybody suggests when you're struggling with the side effects of chemo is medical marijuana. Depression is very common with cancer, I think it's a side effect of what your body is going through. There was nothing I would not have suggested or asked my brother about whether he had tried if I thought it had any chance of helping him or alleviating his suffering.

So sorry you recently lost your brother @Kittybunny It’s a bond that never goes away, imho. Hugs!
 
  • #848
Sorry if these have been asked before. I'm brand spanking new to the site. 1 - did LE conduct a search on BM's route to his "job"? 2 - So often in missing cases the family is all over the place trying to keep the story in the news (newspapers, tv, etc.) Why have her girls not spoken out at all? 3 - Do you think LE has a good idea of what happened or are they clueless as to where she could be?
 
  • #849
As someone who just lost her brother to colon cancer a month ago, I can attest to it not being unusual at all that she shared with her brother or that he asked about it in the manner described above. I read up on everything that could help my brother, and the first thing that almost everybody suggests when you're struggling with the side effects of chemo is medical marijuana. Depression is very common with cancer, I think it's a side effect of what your body is going through. There was nothing I would not have suggested or asked my brother about whether he had tried if I thought it had any chance of helping him or alleviating his suffering.
I'm so very sorry for your loss and thank you for sharing your story. I can't tell you how much I appreciate your being so candid. I lost my very dear Aunt to colon cancer.
PLEASE people, get a colonoscopy. It saved my life. I didn't have cancer, thank God. I hope you all, over 40, will take heed.
Much love.
Sorry WS, had to do it.
 
  • #850
Woah! Just listened to the live Q&A with Lauren. The quickest “yes” she gave in the entire conversation was when she was asked “ has there ever been any accusations of drug use by Barry”
IMO- I have read all your threads on here from day one and I read all the theories about steroid use, which I feel was just assumed considering his size and meathead appearance ...But with all due respect I do feel that the accusations of drug use by Barry are for drugs very different from steroids. No one cares about steroids enough to bring that up with Lauren. Barry is being accused of using the same stuff he called out Morgan for. IMO.

Also. So gross that he kept asking Lauren If she believed in god. Just yuck.
I said way back when that it was the pot calling the kettle black. moo
 
  • #851
A ma

Two people saw her on Sunday? Let me guess....

the same two guys who approached MG?
IMO, he probably doesn't even know the two people. He received the information second hand. LE has likely made contact with them and determined the sightings weren't accurate.

BM won't give names because Lauren would contact them and report back to the public. He's throwing spaghetti noodles at the ceiling again ...
 
  • #852
That really bugs me, so odd to come out full tilt like he did and then vanish. WEIRD!!!
Screams to me that he has second thoughts.
 
  • #853
i would just like to mention, on PE tonight they discussed that some search team members are already on the ground in salida. one man in particular, flew out early, and has been searching geographic regions for 3 days. he found some items today, that he photographed and sent to PE, and they immediately turned those into the sheriff's dept. bc they were DLR (don't look right).

andy also said there have been a few "earth-shattering" tips coming in daily in recent days.

imo.

eta: mike (the volunteer) was on the show, but technical difficulties prevented him from being able to discuss his findings. the evidence team came out and collected the item(s) he found today.
 
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On PE tonight, AM mentioned that one of the reasons ppl in Salida were helping so much is, paraphrased, that they don't know if there is a murderer loose somewhere.

Now, BM has put the "2 people" into the picture, so locals can be even more fearful.
 
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Not if LE told him not to "out" the witnesses. BM has enough trouble, without "Silent John" saying "You didn't do what I told you, now did you?"
IMO
He’s criticized the sheriff’s department, the CBI, and the FBI, saying that they are “ruining my life.”

He knows he’s a suspect, and has absolutely nothing to lose by telling a reporter the names of two people who support his alibi.

He’s come out swinging, and there’s no way in hell he wouldn’t take advantage of something that could change people’s minds, and help him in this public relations battle.

If he was told not to talk about the case, or talk about witnesses, he hasn’t listened to this point.

He’s not saying their names because if these people even exist, he knows they won’t say what he needs them to say.

If Barry had ammo like that he would fire.
 
  • #857
Yes. I think he was pushing the same narrative as Barry, without coming out and saying it: “Law enforcement mishandled the bike.”

He had these insane requirements from the beginning, which almost make it seem like he was hedging his bet (no face on camera for one).

I think the CBI later learned what he told MG, and perhaps threatened him with charges for attempting to interfere with an investigation (or witness intimidation).

Then he went silent, and we lost any hope of learning what happened to that money.
I agree. Early on I honestly thought that TN was a good guy who had been used by BM. I thought that he realized he was being played and that’s why he stepped back from everything. Now, when I find out it was he and GD who approached MG, I think he has just been ducking the public eye. He is the one who wouldn’t even say BM’s name, only referral him as “the husband”, trying to protect him. And, as you brought up, the call for people to ask LE about the condition of the bike.
He backed off, not because he began to doubt Barry, but because he was trying to protect his own hiney. MOO
 
  • #858
Sorry if these have been asked before. I'm brand spanking new to the site. 1 - did LE conduct a search on BM's route to his "job"? 2 - So often in missing cases the family is all over the place trying to keep the story in the news (newspapers, tv, etc.) Why have her girls not spoken out at all? 3 - Do you think LE has a good idea of what happened or are they clueless as to where she could be?

There should have been "mountains of evidence" available to LE, but as we learned earlier this week, that is no guarantee that it was collected in a timely manner. There are four primary traffic cameras, numerous intersection cameras, store cameras that also catch the highway, motel cameras, store cameras..........his truck has non-defeatable exact GPS recording, and his Bobcat does as well. He had his cell phone the whole time, and the highway routes are well covered by cell towers. In the Denver area, cellular data alone should pinpoint where his phone was, and what it was doing, every minute of the day. The hotel has extensive, very sophisticated cameras, and tonight Lauren Scharf confirmed that his home does have cameras as well. They have the testimony of JP and MG that he was there in the room in Denver. BM's alibi might very well be the best evidenced alibi ever in the history of crime, but electronic data needs to be preserved, and we have no assurance at this time that all of it was saved. IMO
 
  • #859
There should have been "mountains of evidence" available to LE, but as we learned earlier this week, that is no guarantee that it was collected in a timely manner. There are four primary traffic cameras, numerous intersection cameras, store cameras that also catch the highway, motel cameras, store cameras..........his truck has non-defeatable exact GPS recording, and his Bobcat does as well. He had his cell phone the whole time, and the highway routes are well covered by cell towers. In the Denver area, cellular data alone should pinpoint where his phone was, and what it was doing, every minute of the day. The hotel has extensive, very sophisticated cameras, and tonight Lauren Scharf confirmed that his home does have cameras as well. They have the testimony of JP and MG that he was there in the room in Denver. BM's alibi might very well be the best evidenced alibi ever in the history of crime, but electronic data needs to be preserved, and we have no assurance at this time that all of it was saved. IMO
I think Lauren said she didn't know if any of the house cameras were workng. And JP and MG didn't see him there, according to what we know here.
 
  • #860
That really bugs me, so odd to come out full tilt like he did and then vanish. WEIRD!!!

Self-preservation.

He's looking after his own interests.

I completely agree with the earlier suggestion that LE likely came knocking on TN's door and asked him some very pointed questions.

JMO.
 
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