Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #37

[NuttMegg]

What do you press once you press the dots, to get the transcript?

Gitana if you still can't see it, try closing the CHAT REPLY, as if you are on a smaller screen having chat reply open might not allow the transcript to show.

 

[Orgona]

So just open the youtube site PE, look under the video, to the right are 3 dots in a line, click on that and you get the transcript option. Some sites have this disabled but PE provides it.
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I always thought we were talking of the 3 dots on the player itself. Under the video I see this, no dots visible

But never mind. This is not the thread for this.

Back to Suzanne. I hope the search will yield some good results

 

[LietKynes]

I watched a friends dog training on a 10 + acre search with a ton of fun distractions,(bloated deer, dirty diapers, human waste (yup) & rotting hamburger meat) hit the TFR (bone w/ decent amount of adipocere). This boy is not field ready yet, still another 8+ months of training before cert and some more solid obedience. He's a bit of a wild child still. ha

Even seasoned LE will tell you the smell of human decomp is unmistakable once you recognize the smell. IMO

When there was a mention of antlers w/ considerable meat still attached (IIRC) very close to the Morphew home, at first I brushed it off but now I'm not so sure if there was an intent to mask something, attract something or BM is just a collector of road kill corpses. IMO

Thanks for your informative reply !

I'm thinking firstly that it was done to attract that ever elusive mountain lion. (Wonder how it feels having its' good name smeared by BM ? As cougar attacks do happen, but are fairly rare from what I've read here .)

It'd be foolish to mask anything (human decomp) around the house or yard.
Only a fool would think that'd work.
Imo.

 

[ChuckMaureen]

Can only be a call to LE from Suzanne's girlfriend, IMO.

I agree... the report that communication unexpectedly stopped between SM and her text friend raised a red flag, and assuming SM's texting originated from within the M dwelling.

 

[MsBetsy]

bbm


BOLO for a woman on a bike? That's exactly what LE put forward. Over many days until they clammed up.

As for a "bogus story on day one", what was the bogus part? That SM was missing? That BM was out of town? That the daughters were not at home? That's what LE discovered early on and I perceive none of that info as being outright "bogus".

I suspect as LE gathered more info and nothing panned out that indicated a definitive scenario they were then fully justified toward leaning more heavily on a typical 'spouse did it' protocol and investigated that avenue... either as a path to conviction or as a path to elimination. At that point I don't believe they knew which way it would fall.

It seems LE doesn't (yet?) have enough information to support a case against.

Maybe the bogus part was BM's theory that Suzanne had been taken by a mountain lion or that she had an accident and somehow "got in the river." Or maybe at that point it was just the story about her going on a bike ride.

I think LE suspected him right away since they reportedly closed off the house as soon as BM returned to Salida. Also, they apparently were very interested in the area in Crested Butte where BM lay down on the ground. It seemed like it was soon after that they didn't allow BM or the firefighters to participate in the searches anymore.

 

[ChuckMaureen]

bbm

Maybe the bogus part was BM's theory that Suzanne had been taken by a mountain lion or that she had an accident and somehow "got in the river." Or maybe at that point it was just the story about her going on a bike ride.

I think LE suspected him right away since they reportedly closed off the house as soon as BM returned to Salida. Also, they apparently were very interested in the area in Crested Butte where BM lay down on the ground. It seemed like it was soon after that they didn't allow BM or the firefighters to participate in the searches anymore.

That would not necessarily indicate LE suspected BM of anything. Since BM was not in town the day of the disappearance and it was (and still is) not definitively known what occurred and where, it only makes sense that LE would close off the dwelling from everyone other than investigative LE to avoid potential evidence contamination. A stranger could have entered the dwelling or was SM let them in and something happened, etc.

Yes, another possibility.

 

[MsBetsy]

bbm


That would necessarily indicate LE suspected BM of anything. Since BM was not in town the day of the disappearance and it was (and still is) not definitively known what occurred and where, it only makes sense that LE would close off the dwelling from everyone other than investigative LE to avoid potential evidence contamination. A stranger could have entered the dwelling or was SM let them in and something happened, etc.

Yes, another possibility.

Yes, those would not be the only reasons. If he was offered the polygraph on the fourth day and refused, that might be another indication of guilt. Most people would be anxious to prove their innocence. According to AM, he refused two polygraphs and a voice Analysis test, although he told TD in the phone interview that he had been cleared weeks ago.

 

[gitana1]

This is about as close to a BOLO as was offered in the media:

Chaffee County woman missing since Sunday after neighbor said she went out for bike ride


Given that SM's bike was recovered that Sunday evening it was likely SM would no longer be seen riding a bike (no BOLO on bike) and since no one reported seeing a woman walking along roads in the area then it was evident SM would not be seen. There was no evidence to support an official BOLO, so LE dropped to the standard "if you have information" request.

So it actually appears no BOLO was ever issued at all.
It was confirmed that by day three the FBI and CBI had become part of the investigation.
Missing Chaffee County woman: FBI joins search, CBI makes tip line - KRDO

It was six days later that we learned a sealed search warrant was obtained to search the house, which had apparently been held since “early on” in the investigation.

Three days after that, the property BM was working on was being searched and excavated via another search warrant.

A couple months later, the Morphew house was searched again.

Holding the house is one thing. Maybe an initial search warrant for the house could be justified that “woman is missing under suspicious circumstances” because nothing has been found to indicate abduction, accident or animal attack.

But the actual excavation of some other person’s property where husband worked? And a second search of the property? Nah.

I’d wager some big money on that bet. No way did a judge sign off on those search warrants because “we haven’t found anything else, your honor. So let us rip apart some property and go back and destabilize these people’s lives once again.”

The timing indicates a focus that narrowed not solely due to what they didn’t find, but also due to what they found.

 

[NuttMegg]

bbm/SBM


Since BM was not in town the day of the disappearance

I don't think we know that yet, re yes/no and timeline of his travels. We don't even know which day she "disappeared".

 

[ChuckMaureen]

bbm

Yes, those would not be the only reasons. If he was offered the polygraph on the fourth day and refused, that might be another indication of guilt. Most people would be anxious to prove their innocence. According to AM, he refused two polygraphs and a voice Analysis test, although he told TD in the phone interview that he had been cleared weeks ago.

I prefer to see a report from LE regarding BM and such testing. Same with BM and having been "cleared", although it would not be beyond LE to tell an individual secretly under focus that they've been "cleared"... then cause or wait for a trip-up.

 

[dgfred]

Maybe the bogus part was BM's theory that Suzanne had been taken by a mountain lion or that she had an accident and somehow "got in the river." Or maybe at that point it was just the story about her going on a bike ride.

I think LE suspected him right away since they reportedly closed off the house as soon as BM returned to Salida. Also, they apparently were very interested in the area in Crested Butte where BM lay down on the ground. It seemed like it was soon after that they didn't allow BM or the firefighters to participate in the searches anymore.

I was suspecting when he mentions mountain lions... with no hair, blood, tracks, cat hair, etc around the bike. Big cats are stealthy... but not that stealthy.

 

[ChuckMaureen]

Wondering if BM moved in to a condo... because he suspects LE bugged the dwelling?

 

[NuttMegg]

Wondering if BM moved in to a condo... because he suspects LE bugged the dwelling?

I would guess that, rather, he is preparing to sell Suzanne's house to get use of her inheritance money she put into it, and most realtors will tell you that having personal belongings visible in a house will not help sales.

Just a prediction: he sells her house before next Mother's Day.

 

[LietKynes]

We need to be careful not to confuse the time of SM's purported last texts with when she was last SEEN.

Unless SM was Facetiming, those phone comms were not sightings.

LE has never verified when SM was last seen.

LE has never verified the last time her phone sent a message, nor has the person she messaged shared that info publicly.

Friday, May 8 is when LE's timeline appears to begin, as evidenced by their request for video footage from area cameras to be saved starting on that date.

We need to start with Friday and work our way forward.

What do we know about BM's movements that day?

JMO.

bbm
Agreed, that's why LE wanted information from that date forward.

Just because she was texting with the friend on Sat. does not mean it was Suzanne doing the texting.
And if the tone changed, it's possible it was BM doing the texting from the beginning, and started to lose his way when the friend grew suspicious of the answers ?
Imo.

 

[ChuckMaureen]

bbm

I was suspecting when he mentions mountain lions... with no hair, blood, tracks, cat hair, etc around the bike. Big cats are stealthy... but not that stealthy.

IIRC, BM claimed a LE officer reported he saw a mountain lion during the first day(s) of the local searches. We do not yet know if a LEO (pun not intended ;-) ) did make that claim... or do we? Has anyone seen such a report?

 

[dgfred]

Good point L K

 

[Hatfield]

I have been going through the Media thread and here are a few items of interest that I have come across:

Chaffee County Sheriff's Office, CBI, FBI now investigating disappearance of Maysville area woman

The ******** is raising money to support search and rescue efforts in the form of meals, lodging and equipment, Noel said. He created the page. As of Thursday morning, almost 150 people had raised close to $20,000.

From AM's interview with PE where he recounts what Barry told him upon his arrival in Salida Monday evening 5/11:

08:07
so it wasn't too long after that i think

08:09
maybe the girls called the neighbor

08:11
or barry called the neighbor and asked

08:12
her to go over and check on the house

08:14
see if suzanne was home she did

08:18
no one was there both land rovers were

08:22
in the garage

08:24
and she went back to her landline at her

08:27
home

08:28
and called barry and said she's not

08:29
there he said is her bicycle there

08:33
so she went back over checked no bicycle

08:36
well she must be on a bike ride barry

08:38
said

08:41
so the next thing you know i think it

08:42
was trevor or one of the kids showed up

08:45
and they called the police and said you

08:48
know we got somebody missing they came

08:49
out they started searching

08:53
said he arrived back there at six


“People don’t know the truth”: Suzanne Morphew’s husband breaks silence after three months | FOX21 News Colorado

“We don’t know why God does what he does,” Barry told Scharf. ” But we have to trust him.”

* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Shut up Barry, just shut up.

Maybe they can share the equipment purchased with the $ they raised on line, with the people who are going to actually be searching for Suzanne.

My first take on TN was that he genuinely cared for SM and wanted to help find her but now I wonder. I would like to know when he arrived on scene because it was Mother's Day and he likely had his own familial responsibilities. Google tells me it is at least a 2 hour 19 min drive from his home to Salida. And now he and GD trying to act like they are part of Tony Soprano's extended family, what is up with that?

MOO

This part has always stuck with me when AM was relaying what BM told him about the time BM actually got back home to join the searching for SM.

"08:53
said he arrived back there at six"

It could have been a mistake on either AM's or BM's part, but then again maybe it was originally told to him that it was 6pm and maybe that later got changed to 9pm.

One reason this is important is the person that was checking in at the motel Sunday who found BM's insurance papers says he did not physically see BM in that room that day from what I gathered. So if BM left that motel closer to 3pm or earlier, then it means he should have been back near his home by 6pm and that would sync up with what we hear AM say.

If he did not arrive till 9pm then it means he should have been seen by the person checking in at the motel in Denver area because BM should have still been around Denver if he did not leave Denver area till around 6pm.

Its another confusing thing like so much of this case. That has been one of my biggest "tells" from the very beginning. Why is everything always confusing and not clear about BM's whereabouts that Sunday morning, afternoon, and early evening. To me, the fact it has been confusing may point to something not on the up and up about it.
It should have been very clear from day one and not so muddy.
JMO

 

[LietKynes]

Some wilder thoughts --

What if Suzanne was poisoned, such that her actual death happened while no one else was at home?

(unlikely this could fit well with her truncated texts w bff, although possible if it hit her fast enough that she couldn't text "not feeling well" etc)

Also, a super creepy thought -- what if BM video'd SM "sleeping" on Sunday morning and shared that video with their daughters, in an "aw sweet, Mom is sleeping in on Mother's Day" way, maybe even at 5am before he supposedly left for the supposed Broomfield job. Thus the daughters might be the two people he's claiming saw her on Sunday? Ewww, sorry...

Ita.
And, no apologies needed.
It's a valid theory.

After what happened to poor Gannon Stauch I'd believe anything of anyone.
Actually I did before that... but the cruelties of some people continue to astound me.

 

[dgfred]

bbm

IIRC, BM claimed a LE officer reported he saw a mountain lion during the first day(s) of the local searches. We do not yet know if a LEO (pun not intended ;-) ) did make that claim... or do we? Has anyone seen such a report?

I thought he was the one mentioning... but I may be mistaken.

 

[skyvoyager]

JMO but I believe we know that he was at the Salida jobsite on Friday.

What we DON'T know is whether the neighbor lady heard heavy equipment Friday night or Saturday night.

I'd like to take a look at those Saturday morning messages... I wonder if the friend, given hindsight, has questioned the authorship...

Otherwise, the last public sighting we have is Thursday....

I trust LE has a handle on this, but I sure don't.

JMO

It was established early on that she heard the sound on MD weekend but was not sure if it was Friday or saturday. Now all of the MSM has copied and pasted that is was satruday or 'the night before MD'... MSM also states she went to the site 'the next day' to ask if keys were left in the equipment.
The 'next day' would have been MD.... only BM, MG, TP work construction on MD.