Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #37

[Madeleine74]

IMO - It seems a line in the sand has been drawn, as it were. Confirms what many have properly assumed, though LE has not officially announced:

Suzanne is dead and it was due to murder.

• No more hoping for a safe return, that ship sailed and sank quickly.
• Bye kitty cat theory, even with 9 lives you were not long for this world.
• Random abductor never asked for a ransom though $210K was his or theirs for the taking, no questions asked.
• Not a voluntary disappearance.
• Not a bike accident and somehow getting into the water.
• Not a car accident or collision with her bike. (key word: accident)
• Not a suicide.

 

[EggSalad]

Is the information about two Range rovers being parked in the garage significant because BM doesn’t strike me as a guy who would park his truck outside when a garage spot is available.

Did the daughter say she parked her old Range Rover in the driveway before she left for her trip but suddenly it’s in the garage when she gets back?

Did BM pull the Range Rover into the garage to then load the body, which we’ve seen in other cases? And then park it back in the garage so he could clean it in private?

Maybe that is the significance of the two range rovers being in the garage being a red flag.

 

[enelram]

Thank goodness AM is a team player- the kind of guy you wanna help out.
He has mustered the help of PE and some good
LE types who have the goods needed to track this slimey perp.

A wonderful show of what co-operative efforts
can accomplish.

 

[enelram]

Any guesses as to WHEN this 3 1/2 hour window of opportunity took place?
LE knows this is when the body got disappeared.
And they stated it was NOT well hidden.
So is it down a ravine, over a cliff, under a ledge?
I hope this gang has some rock climbers on their team. And lots of rope. And maybe a bobcat to push around some big rocks too.

 

[Gigi3]

Ok, I have a morbid question, so please don’t take offense.


Would a skilled hunter cut up a freshly killed elk/deer and bury it with a human body?

If so, would dogs be able to hit on that or would it confuse them?

I'm quoting myself here because I am truly curious about this question, and WS has so many smart, knowledgeable people in this thread.

Would it be possible for dogs to miss human remains because they were buried with animal remains? I could see someone (BM) thinking that if both were placed in a cooler and buried, then dogs may confuse the scent and not alert. Is this a possibility or would dogs alert anyway?

 

[LietKynes]

I definitely heard BM slurring in his lastest rant. "one hundred pershint."
But his sobriety is the least of his troubles.
He is furious that family, friends, strangers, care enough to search for his missing wife.
Nuff said. It's the way he's made.
Moo

Agreed, sadly.
It's as if 'how dare we, the public, and AM take over this effort to find Suzanne ?'

 

[EggSalad]

Random thoughts on this three and a half hour window:

-It must be related to BM’s data (GPS, phone) being “off the grid”
-I was kicking around how 30-40 miles would line up with that timing - ex: drive 1.5 hours, spend 30 mins hiding the body, drive 1.5 hour back.
-40 miles in 1.5 hours -> is that because of the mountain roads, not being able to drive fast, towing something?
-But it BM was towing the bobcat, he’d be using his truck which has GPS so surely LE would have that location data pinned down. I don’t think a Range Rover would have the towing capacity for a bobcat
-So was BM using a non GPS vehicle?
-Maybe that old Range Rover doesn’t have gps? It is off road capable, so if it doesn’t have gps, it could be the vehicle of choice to go out on some backroads, probably driving 20 miles per hour with non head lights, using the full moon to navigate.
-And if that is the case, I’d imagine BM would go to a location he is familiar with and knows the way in and out
-I wonder if the volunteer FF ever go back those dirt roads and power line roads near fire camp and drinks beers and hang out?

Is the information about two Range rovers being parked in the garage significant because BM doesn’t strike me as a guy who would park his truck outside when a garage spot is available.

Did the daughter say she parked her old Range Rover in the driveway before she left for her trip but suddenly it’s in the garage when she gets back?

Did BM pull the Range Rover into the garage to then load the body, which we’ve seen in other cases? And then park it back in the garage so he could clean it in private?

Maybe that is the significance of the two range rovers being in the garage being a red flag.

Double self quote as I’m building on this Range Rover theory.

It was stated this week that LE and AM don’t believe the body is well hidden (or something along those lines).

I think that rules out the use of the bobcat to bury the body. (I think the bobcat might have been used to bury evidence - phone, ring, tarp, weapon, tools etc...)

If the bobcat wasn’t used, and BM had at least his truck and 2 range rovers available, I definitely don’t think he drives his truck when he goes to dispose of the body.

 

[On Track]

Relative newcomer here. But have followed the case from the beginning. Why do you think LE would roar in so fast with big searching?

 

[oviedo]

'I'm going to get results': Brother of missing mother Suzanne Morphew arrives in Colorado ahead of volunteer search

"My sister was murdered," Moorman said. "And she was hidden within a three-and-a-half-hour window. So that — I can draw a circle on that and tell you she's within that circle. And that's what I know happened."

I wonder if he knows the start and stop time of this window?

 

[Megnut]

It might be worth remembering that BM knew where a dead elk was, from which he removed the skull/antlers.

Double burial?

If he's able to murder his wife, I doubt he'd have a problem taking an elk down out of season.

If searches come across elk bones, that's where I'd dig.

JMO

 

[pseudo_hum]

I wonder if he knows the start and stop time of this window?

** Speculation alert**
Like maybe a certain somebody's phone was turned off? IMO

 

[Boxer]

Any guesses as to WHEN this 3 1/2 hour window of opportunity took place?
LE knows this is when the body got disappeared.
And they stated it was NOT well hidden.
So is it down a ravine, over a cliff, under a ledge?
I hope this gang has some rock climbers on their team. And lots of rope. And maybe a bobcat to push around some big rocks too.

A Bobcat in the night seems so risky. That land looks empty but here and there people are in small cabins or camping.

3.5 hour window. Minus 30-60 minutes of "business time," estimate approximately 1:15 -1:30 minutes available drive each way.
Good luck searchers!
I wish I could be there.

 

[Hatfield]

Any guesses as to WHEN this 3 1/2 hour window of opportunity took place?
LE knows this is when the body got disappeared.
And they stated it was NOT well hidden.
So is it down a ravine, over a cliff, under a ledge?
I hope this gang has some rock climbers on their team. And lots of rope. And maybe a bobcat to push around some big rocks too.

Re BBM
I cant shake the news we heard of BM laying down on the ground near the top of a cliff or "Bluff" as I think it was called. Sorry I dont remember where we heard about that but we did hear that about him laying on the ground near some sort of bluff or cliff while he was initially searching with others in the beginning.

He may have just been tired of searching although that seems very strange to do that. It may hint towards some emotional response to being near a cliff.

The other possible location that I am wondering about is an abandoned old mine shaft which we know Colorado is famous for. Im sure BM has been taken to and knows about some of the abandoned mine locations.
JMO

 

[DizzyB]

Is the information about two Range rovers being parked in the garage significant because BM doesn’t strike me as a guy who would park his truck outside when a garage spot is available.

Did the daughter say she parked her old Range Rover in the driveway before she left for her trip but suddenly it’s in the garage when she gets back?

Did BM pull the Range Rover into the garage to then load the body, which we’ve seen in other cases? And then park it back in the garage so he could clean it in private?

Maybe that is the significance of the two range rovers being in the garage being a red flag.

Thanks for bringing that back up-the PE guys were cryptic about that at the time. Multiple vehicles used would really muck things up, and can you imagine Barry explaining the reasons why he was spotted using different ones?

 

[windrower]

OMG

An innocent person would be glad to get all the help they can get to try to find their missing wife. Its blatantly obvious from BM's own words and previous non-actions that he does not want to find SM and wants nobody else to find her.

JMO

rsbm

Yes, this. ^^^^

BM’s reaction to the search army should be a final straw for anyone who may still be questioning BM’s role in SUZANNE’s disappearance.

Because who would not want an army looking for their missing loved one? Only a very guilty person. IMO

sbbm


I think not. Bad vibes. Very bad vibes.

Re: "missing coolers"

I suspect that conversation (between LE and AM) implies the expected coolers were not empty when they, too, were disappeared.

Oh, I think it’s quite likely SUZANNE ended up in a large cooler. And I’m hoping that cooler has the Morphew name written on it in permanent marker—many of us write our name on our coolers try to keep tabs on them so they don’t go missing.

I’m not getting bad vibes at all about this search. Quite the opposite.

It's a daunting task, trying to find the remains of a missing person against the vast backdrop of the amount of land and mountains in, around and beyond Salida. A million places something or someone can be hidden.

Colorado does have a million places, but I’m encouraged because so many of those places can be eliminated here. Too far away (hopefully, electronic data is our friend here), not accessible by vehicle (much of the back country wilderness areas), constraints of necessity (if she’s in a large cooler, BM isn’t carrying it far; his needing to be accounted for, somewhere), etc.

Still a daunting task, yes, but somewhat more manageable than at first glance. IMO

I guess it is apparent that I’m very optimistic about this search. LE and Andy’s army: Go get SUZANNE.

 

[ChuckMaureen]

Confusion of whether BM arrived home @ 6:00 PM or 9:00 PM... there's three hours.

The 'disappearing a body' window doesn't necessarily have to coincide to the time frame when a person became a body... each event could occur at different times, different days.

 

[EggSalad]

It might be worth remembering that BM knew where a dead elk was, from which he removed the skull/antlers.

Double burial?

If he's able to murder his wife, I doubt he'd have a problem taking an elk down out of season.

If searches come across elk bones, that's where I'd dig.

JMO

Apologies in advance for how gruesome this thought is:

Would BM kill an elk out of season, process the carcass keeping the meat in a cooler(s) and then leave out the skull/tissue out and possible some additional meat to lure mountain lions? Would BM then murder SM, cut up the body and hide the human remains under the processed elk, and then go an dispose of the elk, human remains, and coolers? And then need to clean off your saw thoroughly with bleach? Perhaps even all of your tools if the saw was placed back in a tool box to avoid suspicion.

Also, would disposing of elk steaks with human remains increase the likelihood that an animal would come and eat/take away both aiding in the disposal of the body and difficulty in locating it?

And if this actually happened, is there some Freudian aspect of BM saying that a mountain lion got her? As that was his intent all along, just not in a bike ride scenario?

 

[ChuckMaureen]

sbbm

rsbm

I’m not getting bad vibes at all about this search. Quite the opposite.

My "bad vibes" were related to what it seems a certain someone likely did to SM's body... NOT about the search.

 

[Hoss569]

Re BBM
I cant shake the news we heard of BM laying down on the ground near the top of a cliff or "Bluff" as I think it was called. Sorry I dont remember where we heard about that but we did hear that about him laying on the ground near some sort of bluff or cliff while he was initially searching with others in the beginning.

He may have just been tired of searching although that seems very strange to do that. It may hint towards some emotional response to being near a cliff.

The other possible location that I am wondering about is an abandoned old mine shaft which we know Colorado is famous for. Im sure BM has been taken to and knows about some of the abandoned mine locations.
JMO

I think the spot where he laid down is where I would start the search, and let him know that.

 

[Gigi3]

Apologies in advance for how gruesome this thought is:

Would BM kill an elk out of season, process the carcass keeping the meat in a cooler(s) and then leave out the skull/tissue out and possible some additional meat to lure mountain lions? Would BM then murder SM, cut up the body and hide the human remains under the processed elk, and then go an dispose of the elk, human remains, and coolers? And then need to clean off your saw thoroughly with bleach?

See my post above. I was basically saying the same thing, except I wanted to know if it would confuse scent dogs.