Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #47

[Fireflize]

Suzanne's phone is a problem for BM, I would imagine.

If you want LE to believe that she went on a bike ride, then you need the phone to go on a bike ride.

But you don't want LE to actually have her phone, because of the conversations they will find.

If the phone last pinged in the house, but was not found, what explanation could there be that will support the bike ride?
Moo

 

[Curiousobserver]

Isn't that chilling ?
My god I think LE knew she was dead in a few days if not that evening !

Also my .02 is that they found evidence in the house search, in the form of excessive blood or other dna .
But I think LE want to find her body.
As AM said, '...fill the envelope before sealing it'.

So if LE goes to your house and finds evidence that your wife is dead/injured, what does LE do next?- they look for evidence. And what did they do? they prevented you from entering the house, they impounded your truck, they dug up the foundation of a house you worked on, they searched the phones of your associates and dozens of other things we don't know about yet. It seems pretty clear from what happened next, what happened first.

 

[susiQ]

You're making this needlessly complicated. To prove murder without a body you typically need very good evidence. Usually it's one of four things: a confession, witness, large amount of blood, or bones. Finding blood or bones is evidence of a struggle and I don't think LE was deceptive with their answer to Andy.

Therefore I don't believe LE has the goods.

BBM
No, I’m not . It’s all very simple actually. Within days, if not the day SM went missing, LE knew exactly what they were looking at. They have the goods. We just wish we did. I’m not worried. LE are going to bring this home and when the AA gets released, I suspect we will be floored! JMHO

 

[skyvoyager]

What part of the bike story is bogus? Was there actually no bike? Or the bike was clearly ridden by Suzanne into a gully?

What do you mean? Just the part about it needing repair? I thought that what LE told AM was aimed at telling him that her bike wasn't struck by a car...but maybe that's just me.

If it was actually non-functional, I doubt LE would tell anyone that, at this point.

What I meant was to me the whole bike story does not make sense. A bike at the bottom of a ravine, 'an article' found up the hill on the other side of a highway, dogs pick up no scent, no signs of an a struggle, etc., etc. Whether one believes abduction, robbery or mountain lion, the story just does not add up. imo

 

[Minordetails]

You're making this needlessly complicated. To prove murder without a body you typically need very good evidence. Usually it's one of four things: a confession, witness, large amount of blood, or bones. Finding blood or bones is evidence of a struggle and I don't think LE was deceptive with their answer to Andy.

Therefore I don't believe LE has the goods.

There is a lot of ‘smack talk’ out there for an investigation built on hope.

IMO

 

[Curiousobserver]

Isn't that chilling ?
My god I think LE knew she was dead in a few days if not that evening !

Also my .02 is that they found evidence in the house search, in the form of excessive blood or other dna .
But I think LE want to find her body.
As AM said, '...fill the envelope before sealing it'.

So if LE goes to your house and finds evidence that your wife is dead/injured, what does LE do next?- they look for evidence. And what did they do? they prevented you from entering the house, they impounded your truck, they dug up the foundation of a house you worked on, they searched the phones of your associates and dozens of other things we don't know about yet. It seems pretty clear from what happened next, what happened first.

 

[Akstuddard]

Now I’m thinking about this a little more. Actually overthinking it, probably.

But can a phone ping be literally traced to inside a home? I didn’t think pings were that specific, but rather tied to a general radius of an area.

jmo

I can use my google account and zoom in enough on my map activity and I can tell what room my phone was last in, it isn't exact but it helps. However, when it is off I can't see anything until it is powered back on.

 

[Knox]

My issue, and my reason for wanting more about the neighbor’s account, is the stuff that’s missing. There was a snippet of an interview with her, but the cops quickly went to something nefarious upon their arrival. If it had to do with the bike, okay. But did the neighbor say, like Chris Watts’ neighbor said, something isn’t right with that guy? Did the neighbor say she smelled bleach? Did the neighbor see something in the house? Did the neighbor find it odd that Barry was calling her instead of getting one of his first responder buddies to go over? Did the girls call their Dad first, and he didn’t pick up? Was Barry very specific in what she should be looking for, to the point that it sounded like he knew something? Did she see or hear Barry’s truck early that morning or late the night before? Had she ever been called to check up on Suzanne before? If GD was so close by, why not him? Was he only used by Barry for the bike discovery?

I've had questions about this since she was identified by DM and refused to comment.

Also the timeline for GD. We know he was present for the discovery of the bike, because BM repeated what GD supposedly witnessed on the scene. So I too want to know how that went down. Was he speed dialing people and sounding the alarm while driving?

I'm trying to remember, is the TD video the only time BM has mentioned GD? I wonder if he is still in BM's camp? Lauren Sharf said she went to his house to interview him, but only spoke to his wife and child. This was prior to the start of Andy's search.

 

[Knox]

BBM
No, I’m not . It’s all very simple actually. Within days, if not the day SM went missing, LE knew exactly what they were looking at. They have the goods. We just wish we did. I’m not worried. LE are going to bring this home and when the AA gets released, I suspect we will be floored! JMHO

I remember when Leticia Stauch's AA was released, I never could have imagined some of the details - “the whole Eguardo scenario”.
I agree susiQ, we'll have some surprising moments when this comes to an end.

 

[DizzyB]

You're making this needlessly complicated. To prove murder without a body you typically need very good evidence. Usually it's one of four things: a confession, witness, large amount of blood, or bones. Finding blood or bones is evidence of a struggle and I don't think LE was deceptive with their answer to Andy.

Therefore I don't believe LE has the goods.

Getting a murder conviction without a body is tough, but technology is making it easier

“DiBiase said it may be that prosecutors, without a body, work to amass more evidence before taking such cases to trial.

“You’re not going to take a weak no-body case to trial,” he said.”

I linked to the quickest article (found in my daily “last 24 hours” search for SM info). I just think that without a body, that envelope that Andy cited has to be overflowing. No sense in bringing a case to trial that might end in an acquittal, when there is no reason to rush. Suzanne isn’t coming back. If everyone around Barry wants to watch him blow through their money, that isn’t LE’s problem. It’s better that he gets a couple of years of looking over his shoulder, followed by his remaining years in a cell, than a lifetime of freedom for a murderer.

 

[Megnut]

The timeline of events, regarding notification, comes to us largely from the mountain liar.

I wonder if he wasn't temporarily off the grid for any portion of Mother's Day. He may be taking credit for actions to which he wasn't a party, to make it look like HE was concerned, like HE initiated the neighbor's checking and like HE invoked the call to LE.

The girls called a neighbor that
that morning, not the checking neighbor, and I believe this to be the 400 tours neighbor, who may have owned the property where the first search party stayed, hence "neighbor". The girls, not yet worried. IMO. Later, perhaps unable to reach their dad also, may have contacted the 70 year old neighbor. Reasonable they'd call the first neighbors again and the cousin, their only local family. These are predictable, natural steps, when you're genuinely worried about a loved one. We DON'T KNOW when BM entered into the phone conversations. By the time he answered a phone, a fearful cluster of family could well have assembled, ahead of any bike discovery. And if not assembled, en route. Whoever disappeared Suzanne is THE ONLY ONE who had a timeline of events to sell. All others were seeking only to find her.

I say, find the elk.

That could be why there are no coolers.

Loaded up, disposed of. Double duty.

Almost a perfect crime...

JMO

 

[steeltowngirl]

You're making this needlessly complicated. To prove murder without a body you typically need very good evidence. Usually it's one of four things: a confession, witness, large amount of blood, or bones. Finding blood or bones is evidence of a struggle and I don't think LE was deceptive with their answer to Andy.

Therefore I don't believe LE has the goods.

I just read an interesting article about 11 no-body cases that resulted in first degree murder convictions.

In each of the cases, there were commonalities:

-there was no body
-no certain time of death
-no certain means of death
-no eyewitness
-no confession
-no murder weapon
-bloodstains were not conclusively the victim’s as DNA was not yet being utilized
-no forensic evidence such as blood or hair was found

Some key quotes:

“It cannot be stressed strongly enough: if you don’t have a body, proceed as if you will never have one.”

“....A murderer should not be entitled to an acquittal on the basis that he was able to dispose of the body.” “That is one form of success for which society has no reward.” People v. Manson, 139 Cal. Rptr. 275 (Cal. Ct. App. 1977).

https://acsr.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Legal-and-Investigative-stratigies-No-Homicide.pdf

jmo

 

[Ontario Mom]

My issue, and my reason for wanting more about the neighbor’s account, is the stuff that’s missing. There was a snippet of an interview with her, but the cops quickly went to something nefarious upon their arrival. If it had to do with the bike, okay. But did the neighbor say, like Chris Watts’ neighbor said, something isn’t right with that guy? Did the neighbor say she smelled bleach? Did the neighbor see something in the house? Did the neighbor find it odd that Barry was calling her instead of getting one of his first responder buddies to go over? Did the girls call their Dad first, and he didn’t pick up? Was Barry very specific in what she should be looking for, to the point that it sounded like he knew something? Did she see or hear Barry’s truck early that morning or late the night before? Had she ever been called to check up on Suzanne before? If GD was so close by, why not him? Was he only used by Barry for the bike discovery?

All really good questions, for sure.
After hearing JP say he felt like the hotel/jobsite in Broomfield was part of an ailibi, it really made me wonder what the neighbor at PP saw, heard, and felt that day, and how the CCSO responded to what she had to say.

Did she feel like something was off with BM calling her?
When she went over the first time, did she go inside the house? (msm reports vary)
If yes, what did she see in the house?
Did she notice an odor of bleach?
Did she mention that in her 911 call or in her statement to the CCSO?
When BM asked her to go back to the house a second time, to see if SM's bike was there, did that feel like a strange thing to ask, or a red flag in any way?

I do think that whatever the neighbor heard and saw, coupled with the way the bike was dumped down a ravine, and then whatever BM had to say or how he was acting when he arrived around 9pm is a big part of the reason the CCSO never ever treated this case like a missing person's case. There were red flags immediately pointing them in a completely different direction.

jmo

 

[MrsWatson]

Given the behavior we've seen from BM, I would bet he wasn't acting right when he showed up back at Puma Path, and coupled with what LE already knew, I am guessing BM was swimming in a pool of Red Flag cologne.

MOO

 

[Megnut]

Given the behavior we've seen from BM, I would bet he wasn't acting right when he showed up back at Puma Path, and coupled with what LE already knew, I am guessing BM was swimming in a pool of Red Flag cologne.

MOO

Red flag cologne or red flag chlorine.

JMO

 

[Area52]

You're making this needlessly complicated. To prove murder without a body you typically need very good evidence. Usually it's one of four things: a confession, witness, large amount of blood, or bones. Finding blood or bones is evidence of a struggle and I don't think LE was deceptive with their answer to Andy.

Therefore I don't believe LE has the goods.

Not necessarily so. Take a look at the Heather Elvis case here on Websleuths. I think this case had less evidence, but the electronic footprint is what sunk them! Moo

 

[Megnut]

I'd like to know how many phones were destroyed in the execution of this crime and subsequent (attempts to) cover up.

I'd also like to know how much damning video LE has.

JMO

 

[Fireflize]

All really good questions, for sure.
After hearing JP say he felt like the hotel/jobsite in Broomfield was part of an ailibi, it really made me wonder what the neighbor at PP saw, heard, and felt that day, and how the CCSO responded to what she had to say.

Did she feel like something was off with BM calling her?
When she went over the first time, did she go inside the house? (msm reports vary)
If yes, what did she see in the house?
Did she notice an odor of bleach?
Did she mention that in her 911 call or in her statement to the CCSO?
When BM asked her to go back to the house a second time, to see if SM's bike was there, did that feel like a strange thing to ask, or a red flag in any way?

I do think that whatever the neighbor heard and saw, coupled with the way the bike was dumped down a ravine, and then whatever BM had to say or how he was acting when he arrived around 9pm is a big part of the reason the CCSO never ever treated this case like a missing person's case. There were red flags immediately pointing them in a completely different direction.

jmo

Agree. I imagine that if BM couldn't pull himself together when dealing with his workers, then he certainly couldn't when he was interacting with LE.
I'll bet he was a walking, talking big ole red flag when he got back home Sunday night.

Moo

 

[MrsWatson]

I'd like to know how many phones were destroyed in the execution of this crime and subsequent (attempts to) cover up.

I'd also like to know how much damning video LE has.

JMO

Everyone remember the picture outside the car wash with all the LE people, with FBI emblazoned on their jackets?

 

[Trackergd]

I am wondering if the actor removed the battery. I would think the battery missing would have been obvious unless it was a grab and go for the bike ride.

According to PC Magazine - Smartphones usually have at least two stores of memory: a SIM card, and the phone’s internal memory. Many phones also have additional data stored on removable SD Card media.

Link Here:
https://www.pcworld.com/article/235...here we found data,lists already on the phone.

Phones generally cannot be tracked when they are off, however there is always exceptions in that some services can track phones that are on, even when the SIM card is removed.

When you turn off your phone, it will stop communicating with nearby cell towers and can be traced only to the location it was in when it was powered down. GPS will be of no help as it consistently needs cellular and/or internet access to gather the location details. Now here's that "exception" NSA is capable of tracking cell phones even when they are turned off. And this isn’t anything new. As per the report, NSA has been using this technique, dubbed “The Find”, ever since September 2004.

Link Here:
Can You Track Phone When it's Turned Off? Apparently, Yes!.

To answer the question about cell phones being tracked in your home, see the link below:
The Problem with Mobile Phones

And of course if you want to prevent the most common forms of tracking your cell phone, see the link below:
How to Prevent Cell Phones From Being Tracked | Digital Security Guide | Safeonline.ng : Digital Security Guide | Safeonline.ng
This is all commonly searchable information on the internet, so it is available to a potential actor as much as it is to us.

All links provided to comply with TOS and keep Ontario Mom happy!